Super C extractor? thinking about buying one what's your thoughts?

So my buddy only smokes Co2 from his E-cig protank and thats it.. I've tried to get him on shatter but he doesn't like it. And our Co2 connect isn't steady enough, plus we grow so why buy from some else? So I found this machine, I can't find any reviews on it so I'm asking y'all. As much as we would love to buy a whole super critical extraction lab, lol its just not in our budget.. But this is within our budget. Will this machine make liquid co2 oil for e-cig tanks and is it worth a damn? I think they cost $3200 here is the video..
http://ocolabs.com/product/superc-extractor

Adorable in scale, does it posess a pop-off valve and what is the pressure test point the manufacturer performed on the system?

The concept seems valid, but the proverbial black box on the bottom rattling away leaves me little confidence in the long term reliability, overpressure safety and inherent efficiency of the mechanism hidden within.

Would I invest in one? Not personally, not without significant detail as to it's engineering.

My experience thus far extracting with SCFE CO2, is that while novel, a small passive system is limited in what you can do with it. CO2 is a small molecule, so it can't hold a lot, thus it requires a lot of it. Easy with a pumped system, but not with a small tank relying on heat to reach pressure.

You also subject the material to the whole extraction curve when you raise the pressure through heating, rather than specific pressures and temperatures for best performance.

The best products that I've seen from SCFE CO2, were done at lower than ambient temperature and at higher pressure to compensate, so are not possible with a passive system.

The very best CO2 products that I've tested, were fractionated off and recombined at a different ratio.

SnapsProvolone said:

Adorable in scale, does it posess a pop-off valve and what is the pressure test point the manufacturer performed on the system?

The concept seems valid, but the proverbial black box on the bottom rattling away leaves me little confidence in the long term reliability, overpressure safety and inherent efficiency of the mechanism hidden within.

Would I invest in one? Not personally, not without significant detail as to it's engineering.

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I put link to the website under the video. The have descriptions there. Im going to call them and ask some questions, I let y'all know what I find out

I saw this unit at a show and was impressed by the build/quality. I also posted this same question on another forum. Fadedawg is spot on on the cons of this unit.
They said it will use up about 1# of co2 / hr of extraction so you will need a good cheap source of co2. Also prime material since the chamber is so small.
The one question I haven't asked them if its capable of running fine material like kief or hash. They said you can run a co-solvent but since its a passive unit that will blow-by within the first few minutes once you open the valve.

I have being looking into the apeks desktop unit instead. Only issue with that one is that it has maximum 1500psi.

We saw these at the expo in vegas a few weeks ago.
I told santa to put shit on hold and grab us one of these for christmas.
If enough patients want the co2 extracts vs the bho then
we will work toward the Apeks model.
I like bho, but people ask about co2 all the time.

Looks like a hella good deal to me.

Awe, it's made from aluminum, subjected to corrosion, and depositing heavy metals due to carbonic acid being corrosive from whatever co-solvent is used. Only an oz is tiny production too.

Co2 is cheap, and prices out here are as good as 385lbs for $100. A dewar needs to be rented, a air driven liquid pump 60:1 and a large volume compressor like ingersollrand is needed along w the high pressure vessels and a touch screen Plc should take care of specific ratios to pump in liquid cryogenic co2 as a supercritical fluid about 6,000 psi and run it closed loop for upto 15 hrs if desired, but I would probably shoot for like 3hrs to do a 3-5 lbs run, then scrap it. The yields should be about 15% for trim and perhaps double for nug runs. That's if your good and rinse equipment w solvent to get all the theoretical yield possible. At that time, very different solvents can be used for product variations. R134a, R 113, propane, ethanol, dimethylether, hexane, n-butane and ISO, nitrous oxide, anything practically. So lots of options can happen for shop diversity in different end products as they tune up co2 and make it a beast.

Any more thoughts on this?

I never got mine rrog.
I've been dropping a few pounds and my spinal stenosis has been really acting up so we opted for a king size tempur pedic bed instead. My piggy bank is back on E at the moment. I spent a lot of time trying to find good reviews of this extractor and I wasn't able to find many.

I'm not finding much on CO2 extractors in general....

Hi i have the super c sfe Extractor.
The pressure i run at is 3900psi and 55c
The thing is awesome but needs a few more things for the price for the machine. It cost alot and yeild is low due to a small chamber or vessal. I should do a run and upload it. So for cost i would buy something else to make money with and use this for my personal use. It doesnt hold a oz and u only get 10% so do the math.not that great.huh? But it is cool if u got 3200 dollars laying around, and want to dab cO2 wax.

So when you say you only get 10%, are you meaning 90% of the Cannabinoids are lost in the extraction process?

I could find a much better way to spend 3200 dollars. Not really worth it in my opinion. After a while it might just turn into a 3200$ paper weight.

I got tricked into buying the Apeks 1500-L, I had to return it....

I lost a lot of time and money because of that machine and company.

They told me that it was operator error, and then in the month of June they released an "upgrade" to remedy the exact problem I was having.......

Still trying to get my money back, they took the machine and probably resold it but only gave me a fractional refund of the actual cost.

What's wrong with bho?

Lots of us are interested in avoiding butane for health reasons

Hello everyone. I came across this thread and wanted to reply to a couple of concerns that have been addressed about the SuperC. I work at OCO Labs and also use the SuperC to process my personal concentrates. We have not run into any issues with user safety on our equipment. The SupersC has a pressure switch that will shut the system down once it reaches a pressure of 4500psi. If for some reason the operator were to turn the system on and walk away from it, the system would safely shut down once reaching 4500psi. As well, we have installed an industry standard burst-disk on the rear of the central air block. If the system were to ever reach a pressure of 7000psi the disk will burst and the system will no longer hold any pressure. I have yet to hear of, or see a system that has reached a high enough pressure to cause the burst-disk to burst.
Recently I had to replace a set of seals "O-Rings" on my personal SuperC. I had well over 500 hours on my seals for the compressor. On the Expansion-Kit, I've noticed if the seals are kept clean they can last up to 200 plus hours. Changing the seals on the expansion kit is very easy and probably only takes 10 minutes or so, but they will not last as long as the seals on the base compressor in my experience. As long as the operator keeps the machine lubricated with the correct lubricant, the seals should last much longer than 100 hours on the base SuperC. I tend to run my SuperC with Expansion-Kit 4 days a week at 12 hour intervals. I try to stop the system every two hours briefly to lubricate the felt pads with liquid coconut oil (not the kind that solidifies at room temperature). Keeping these felt pads that rest on the pistons lubricated helps me to only have to replace seals every few months.
Everything FadeDawg said about the capabilities of a passive CO2 extraction system is correct. However the SuperC uses a patented dual syringe piston compressor to gain pressure. Many users often turn the heating element off to pick up fewer waxes during their extractions. The SuperC can be operated up to 4500psi with the heating element off should the operator choose. Each displacement of the pistons will create friction and thus some heat though. I guess you could call a run with no heat on the SuperC a "near critical" run, but currently our systems are not set up to run sub-critical.
I saw another comment in this thread about possible corrosion of some of the aluminum parts on the SuperC.. We do use aluminum on several parts of the SuperC but all aluminum parts are anodized, thus being corrosion-resistant, and are left with a anodic oxide finish. I've been running the same extraction chambers for three years now. I clean them after every run and have not come across any corrosion in my experience.

If anyone has additional questions about the SuperC I am more than happy to answer them.

No disrespect intended by asking this, but what is the advantage of CO2 extraction vs just pressing the buds in a rosin press...not the hair straightener stuff... a real rosin press?. Is CO2 extraction for making that really liquid stuff for vapor pens and the like? What am I not understanding?