Superponics vs Aero only and other methods

I've been reading about superponics, which is when you combine different methods of hydroponics into one system. I'm curious what the pros and cons are of using a superponics system. In theory it sounds like a great idea but i'm unsure of how a plant would actually respond from all of these various different methods of stimulation. I've looked at the bubbleponics system specifically. It looks like steroids for your plants but was afraid that this method may result in over watering.

Yet another exceptionally good inquiry gone completely ignored on this unhelpful forum. Did you ever find an answer to your question? I'm researching this myself.

FerretFool0x77 said:

Yet another exceptionally good inquiry gone completely ignored on this unhelpful forum. Did you ever find an answer to your question? I'm researching this myself.

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WOW I did a google search, and look what I came up with? [video=youtube;MBLblrBrASs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBLblrBrASs[/video]


Please understand that people here have lives. We are not anyones personal army. We are willing to help though! I doubt you'll find a more helpful forum anywhere. That doesn't mean that we punch strings into google for you on demand though. You need to be smarter than the average bear if you want to be growing in the first place. Maybe it's not for you?

lol, just playing

If you could have contained your pretentiousness long enough to fully read and grasp the question, you probably would have realized it is superponics that both the author and I find elusive, not aeroponics per se. The preceding video makes no mention of superponics.

Though I have not been using this site long, I've still seen many a simpler/easier question answered in excess. If you know nothing of superponics, please move along.

I feel like a toddler just told me that he'd probably drive a car better than me. My night has been one of the worst ones in my life. I know you may not care about me, but I still care about you. I care that everyone here finds the info they looked for. Allow me to compile a full report for you:

Superponics is a colloquial for using more than one hydroponic system at a time. For example, people using one method may not find it accommodating, and add another. For example, some people have used the Nutrient Film Technique and the Ebb and Flow technique with great success together. This same success can be achieved by any hydroponics method. Aeroponics is still technically a form of hydroponics, it just doesn't use any medium for the root. So then the question just becomes "What is the best hydroponic system?" That depends on your situation! Aeroponics can yield more, but they require a lot more attention than some other hydroponic set ups. For a new grower, Aeroponics (Or Hydroponics at all, in my opinion) should not be used. Make your first mistakes in the soil, and the plant will forgive you.

I hope I've helped!

Dominathan said:

Superponics is a colloquial for using more than one hydroponic system at a time. [...] This same success can be achieved by any hydroponics method. Aeroponics is still technically a form of hydroponics, it just doesn't use any medium for the root.

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Wow, I was not expecting that 180. This is helpful; thank you. My condolences on behalf of your night.

Though if you could elaborate, you're saying sheer, standalone aeroponics is equal to if not superior than a combination of both aeroponics and another method of hydroponics?

FerretFool0x77 said:

Wow, I was not expecting that 180. This is helpful; thank you. My condolences on behalf of your night.

Though if you could elaborate, you're saying sheer, standalone aeroponics is equal to if not superior than a combination of both aeroponics and another method of hydroponics?

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Correct. If an Aeroponics system is maintained properly, it is the "best" way to grow. I only put quotations because for some people (like myself), the high maintenance of an aeroponics system is less than ideal. Combining Aeroponics with a form of Hydroponics would also be less than ideal, since the roots dangle in mid air in aeroponics. Hydroponics have the roots submerged in a medium already (Water, Rockwool Cubes, etc*). If you feel that building and maintaining a aero setup is too hard, you can always buy a premade one (Boooo). Here is a very good guide for beginners to create great standalone hydroponic buckets (for less than $20 a unit): http://www.thcfarmer.com/forums/f95/diy-standalone-dwc-bucket-2551/

Happy growing, friend.

I think the term 'superponics' is misleading as is the menage of names for basicly the same thing. The debate over True High Pressure Aeroponics vs. Low Pressure Aeroponics seems to long rooted and deeply hashed out over the forums for a number of years and seems to be ever so more increasingly popular with the marketing of setup and grow DWC systems ect. I've simply went with the system that best suited my enviroment. That is the harsh plant limits, need for privacy due to extrenuating cirumstances which are numerous and I would say unusual for the common grower. So having a room full of 6ft plants is not ideal for me, not that I don't wish I could be blessed by such circumstances. Being of a scientific and construction based background hydroponics seemed a natural course to take. I keep extensive records of grow room temps as well as EC/TDS/PH readings, while remember not to chase the PH. The bottom line is that people are ulitimately use what they can afford, people will throw crazy amouunts of money at something to try and get it 'right'. Step back, take a breath, do some research and decide which method will best suit your needs and skill level.

i agree super ponics is just that
but i think its easier to grow in hydro set up suited to ur needs
as any problem may come a bout faster but can be fixed just as fast example:u messed up and mix nutes too strong this can fixed in an 15 min in ebb n flow (beginner system )
they just need do reaserch and buy good bible on the subject
fisrt time read label n grow then when confindent go up more challenge keeping that simplereasy to run ebb n flow going till uve mastered the next thing u want to grow
its very rare to lose a table almost unheard of if all needed steps are taken and followed to the letter

Thread is like 4 years old heh

I've found two problems with the Superponics system while growing. The first being that they give you free Technaflora nutrients with the system. This set me up for a big problem from the start. I've come to learn that organic nutes are not suited for DWC hydro systems. When you add organic nutrients to DWC, the oxygen being pumped in the reservoir allows for an explosion of organic living organisms to thrive, including pythium which devastated my roots. In an effort to battle slime mold and the resulting root rot, I switched to chemical nutrients and stopped using the top water feeding. It seems the top feed in combination with DWC (not to mention organic nutes) is a prime situation for excessive overwatering and root rot. After I stopped top water feeding and changed to chemical nutes the plants recovered. Recovering was tough. I had to do repeated root dunks in H2O2 and sodium chlorite, spray the slime off the roots and add a UV sterilizer to the reservoir. It helped but the problem was not resolved until I decided to stop the top water feeding and continued the regiment. Adding a UV Sterlizer, Dutch Master Zone, and 35% H2O2 daily solved the problem (about 40 ml each for 15 gallons) and the plants recovered....but only after the top water feeding was eliminated. The combination of the two (DWC & Top Water Feeding) might seem like a good idea, but I've found that in my experience it's not practical in application and only causes problems. The system is very nice and durable...and I still use it, just not the top water feeding.

I've designed two Hybrid systems. My original system is an Aeroponic/NFT type system. My average harvest was 20-24oz. 24 SCROG plants in a 7x8 closet. Harvest is every three weeks.

My new system is a combination of Aeroponics/DWC. With this system you can harvest 20oz. from just one plant. You do need lot's of space thought as the plants get huge!

You can download the free plans here:
http://www.stinkbuddies.com/

You can buy my new book here:
http://www.harvestapound.com/

Well my latest idea ima try I think is this. Setting it up now since I just got moved in. Ima get 5 gallon buckets and put the 5 gallon smart pot on top. Fill the smart pot with 22 a bag sunleaves rocks heavy ones. Then ima run 5 aeroponic misters in the top like a top feed connected to a 9000 L an hour pump . Then ima hook the buckets up in a underflow system. Under current. With 9000 l pump keeping it spinning . I need to get ceramic airstones probably get a pond aeratior and a chiller after a crop .
anyone got any ideas ? Not sure if I should run the aero top feeds all the time or what. Will experiment . Good thread.