Big Perm
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pffft I'd let him kill me and bury me in a painting, but seriously, his son was kind of weird. I wouldn't be surprised if his son did that though.
SuperSkunk Manifold
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H.A.F.
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Usually not long, like 5-6 weeks tops, but this plant was on 'slow' waiting on a harvest, so it went 2 months in my veg-tent, then another week or so under the big lights getting acclimatized before I flipped.
diggs99
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H.A.F.
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Didn't touch the skunk today. so just bud-porn. I'm seeing some plumpness 
That second pic is pretty much level. A few are hitting the 12" mark. That puts the lights 16" from the tops, and I plan to just let them grow to the light, then raise the light if there are issues.
That second pic is pretty much level. A few are hitting the 12" mark. That puts the lights 16" from the tops, and I plan to just let them grow to the light, then raise the light if there are issues.
H.A.F.
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One thing I have noticed with the flower closet running during the night (7p to 7a) is that I can check on them before lights out in the morning and see if I think they need water (weight) - but then I have 12 hours of enforced patience to ponder it before doing anything
H.A.F.
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Don't know what saucer you are talking about, but I do have both blue and yellow bucket-grids that I set the pots on. If that isn't what you mean, tell me which post.
H.A.F.
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Bear with me - thought process first, then conclusion - and I may edit it LOL
I will try something different with my next seedling. In the last pic I posted there are several kola outgrowing the others. Out of curiosity I traced them each back to my 4 end limbs, the 4 middle ones are lagging a little. Even the tall ones in the center are ones branching off of the ends and trained into the middle. Fact: stems deliver food - bigger stems deliver more food and make bigger buds I looked underneath and saw something (I found) interesting.
Where the orange lines meet the red one you can see where this end limb was topped again. The red part is before I topped each limb, and it is pretty much the same diameter until I topped it, regardless of leaving shoots to grow or not.
The red circles are the five cola from the other pic, the blue ones are from the other 'end' branch.
All 5 of those orange branches (secondary shoots) are the same diameter, all coming off the same limb. The two at the top are no bigger than the ones left on below them. all 5 of those secondary limbs are the taller flowers above even though they are all coming off the same branch!
The blue limb (tertiary shoot) was not worth leaving.
By comparison, the 4 middle limbs off the manifold (purple line) are only a little larger than those secondary shoots off the ends.
If I had not topped it, and just let it grow until flip - leaving shoots along the way, I think the stem diameter would have stayed pretty much the same, gradually getting smaller.
I think that 4 initial stems on the manifold will be better. The topping for 8, instead of sing Nebula's version like I have been. I re-read through Nugbuckets version and saw several different styles, and I think he did one like that.
I also think that using the 3rd node off of each initial part of the manifold would be better than the 1st node so the stems get fatter before more work is done.
I think that each branch left on the 4 limbs has the potential to produce the same as one of the middle 4 would. Or basically, get the 4 limbs started and let it go until you want to flip. Topping each a week before flip might be good too.
This shape would also make it easy to fill in a square scrog perfectly.
INPUT WELCOME!!!
I will try something different with my next seedling. In the last pic I posted there are several kola outgrowing the others. Out of curiosity I traced them each back to my 4 end limbs, the 4 middle ones are lagging a little. Even the tall ones in the center are ones branching off of the ends and trained into the middle. Fact: stems deliver food - bigger stems deliver more food and make bigger buds I looked underneath and saw something (I found) interesting.
Where the orange lines meet the red one you can see where this end limb was topped again. The red part is before I topped each limb, and it is pretty much the same diameter until I topped it, regardless of leaving shoots to grow or not.
The red circles are the five cola from the other pic, the blue ones are from the other 'end' branch.
All 5 of those orange branches (secondary shoots) are the same diameter, all coming off the same limb. The two at the top are no bigger than the ones left on below them. all 5 of those secondary limbs are the taller flowers above even though they are all coming off the same branch!
The blue limb (tertiary shoot) was not worth leaving.
By comparison, the 4 middle limbs off the manifold (purple line) are only a little larger than those secondary shoots off the ends.
If I had not topped it, and just let it grow until flip - leaving shoots along the way, I think the stem diameter would have stayed pretty much the same, gradually getting smaller.
I think that 4 initial stems on the manifold will be better. The topping for 8, instead of sing Nebula's version like I have been. I re-read through Nugbuckets version and saw several different styles, and I think he did one like that.
I also think that using the 3rd node off of each initial part of the manifold would be better than the 1st node so the stems get fatter before more work is done.
I think that each branch left on the 4 limbs has the potential to produce the same as one of the middle 4 would. Or basically, get the 4 limbs started and let it go until you want to flip. Topping each a week before flip might be good too.
This shape would also make it easy to fill in a square scrog perfectly.
INPUT WELCOME!!!
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H.A.F.
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Other thoughts. Snipping the first node or two on each of the 4 might be good as well, and how many cola you shoot for would probably be based on grow-bag size.
Letting it grow mostly vertical or at a 45 until I top the ends would make it easier to have the first set of nodes left on be at the center, then start bending them horizontal.
Letting it grow mostly vertical or at a 45 until I top the ends would make it easier to have the first set of nodes left on be at the center, then start bending them horizontal.
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diggs99
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That is one question i forgot to ask.
What size pot would suggest finishing in?
mine is in a 3g pot right now, the other 2 will move to 7g pots for flowering. wondering if the manifolded plant should move to a 5 or 7 aswell?
H.A.F.
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I posted the formula previously that I used to guestimate yield. All things considered I am counting on an ounce per gallon. But if it was in a 5 gallon I would probably let it veg longer etc to get that 5. I think plant wise a gallon/ounce is about what a grow-bag will support without issues. Veging your plant to the point that it will produce that may take longer. Veging too long and it gets rootbound
I don't like transplanting big plants. Way too much chance for oopsies.
I pretty much stay medicated, edibles, bong-hits, whatever. With good homegrown it lasts a while (more resinous, burns slower, a 'one-hitter' takes two hits
) and I figure a quarter-bag a week makes it where I don't have to 'stretch' it towards harvest and has allowed me to build up a stash. (the decarb machine helps big-time). With a rotation of a harvest about every 2 months (4 month grow) I only need to get 2-3 oz per grow. So for me quicker is better than long veg and bigger yield. So I chose the smaller bag.
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H.A.F.
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Here's my sales pitch for the Ardent Nova. It gets the decarb perfect every time and converts between 95% and 97% of the THC into THC-A, and it you just push 'go'. You can take that decarbed flower or keif, mix it with oil or butter, and hit 'go' again for a 90%plus infusion.
If you have a bud that's 20% THC (easily doable with home grown) that means that one gram of flower has 200mg of THC.
Keif is anywhere from 50-75% THC, or 500-750ng THC per gram of keif.
If you buy an edible, they are no longer allowed to sell any single item (i.e. candy bar) with more than 100mg total. and that is usually divided into 10mg doses to be safe for newbies and lightweights. 20-25mg is a normal dose for stoners to 'maintain' all day with regular doses. 50mg is couch-lock territory - depending on strain because the effects do transfer into edibles.
I made two batches of budder from the same plant, one from keif and one from flower. I used the math above counting the keif as 50% and flowers as 20% just for easy math, and my magic butter trays make 15 pats, so for 25mg doses I needed 375mg of THC.
That was less than 2 grams of flower, and 0.75g of keif for 30 buzzes. Needless to say I was skeptical - I'm not anymore.
If you have a bud that's 20% THC (easily doable with home grown) that means that one gram of flower has 200mg of THC.
Keif is anywhere from 50-75% THC, or 500-750ng THC per gram of keif.
If you buy an edible, they are no longer allowed to sell any single item (i.e. candy bar) with more than 100mg total. and that is usually divided into 10mg doses to be safe for newbies and lightweights. 20-25mg is a normal dose for stoners to 'maintain' all day with regular doses. 50mg is couch-lock territory - depending on strain because the effects do transfer into edibles.
I made two batches of budder from the same plant, one from keif and one from flower. I used the math above counting the keif as 50% and flowers as 20% just for easy math, and my magic butter trays make 15 pats, so for 25mg doses I needed 375mg of THC.
That was less than 2 grams of flower, and 0.75g of keif for 30 buzzes. Needless to say I was skeptical - I'm not anymore.
I tried going one day without smoking anything and just using the budder to see, and I was cool all day with a total of about 100mg. each 25mg dose took about 30min to kick in (enough time for a cup of coffee) and lasted from 4-6 hours before I started thinking "I don't feel as high..." And I noticed no difference between the keif or flower.
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H.A.F.
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I should mention that I don't plan to make budder anymore except with keif. It takes very little and you don't have to strain it, so it doesn't matter how well it is infused. And I like smoking the flowers too much LOL
Seriously, after decarb you can just eat a bud, but weigh it first and don't eat too much!
Seriously, after decarb you can just eat a bud, but weigh it first and don't eat too much!