Supplier who meets 2014 guidelines
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cannadan
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I'm not sure what that means but if by driving away most of the potential customers you could have, with cost prohibitive pricing,
is the goal, then the new program will be a success,driving a vast number back into pharmaceutical solutions. win win for the powers that be.
no one has access to med marihuana cause they simply cant afford it,add in the threat of jail for growing your own, and back on pills we go.......
is the goal, then the new program will be a success,driving a vast number back into pharmaceutical solutions. win win for the powers that be.
no one has access to med marihuana cause they simply cant afford it,add in the threat of jail for growing your own, and back on pills we go.......
ThirstyRoss
Well-Known Member
You are mistaken. As patients are no longer allowed to grow their own, their cost will definitely go up! The some big pharma companies get to profit off of sick people...lovely.
spider9
Well-Known Member
my cost will go from $90 per month to between $700 to $900 on a disability pension there is no way I can do that I get $1600 a month and have 3 kids to feed dress ect. ect. I will have no choice but to break the law and risk loosing my kids or go on the morphine or like they had me on before 12 percacets a day that is not a life. I would choose death over that
Back to the original post, no one has been licensed yet, so while some growers may meet the requirements nothing is set yet.
A word of warning for anyone out there that is interested in participating in the new system is that you can only be registered with a single company, so you would be wise to shop around for the one that meets your needs the best. This is not to say that you can't change providers, but it it will require a bit of paperwork etc.
As for price under the new system, from our calculations it will not go up as HC has predicted, but will likely stay about the same (if you are using a DG). Also, we have applied and we are not a large heartless pharmaceutical corporation, we are a small family business. Throughout this process we have heard all sorts of things that were going to happen, but none of them were true. Time will tell if small companies like us receive licenses, but until then the large pharma conspiracy theories are all speculation.
A word of warning for anyone out there that is interested in participating in the new system is that you can only be registered with a single company, so you would be wise to shop around for the one that meets your needs the best. This is not to say that you can't change providers, but it it will require a bit of paperwork etc.
As for price under the new system, from our calculations it will not go up as HC has predicted, but will likely stay about the same (if you are using a DG). Also, we have applied and we are not a large heartless pharmaceutical corporation, we are a small family business. Throughout this process we have heard all sorts of things that were going to happen, but none of them were true. Time will tell if small companies like us receive licenses, but until then the large pharma conspiracy theories are all speculation.
juicedcannabis
New Member
I've been reading through all the documents, found two good locations, now for the paperwork and the business plan.
Because I knew the laws were changing back in January of 2013 when I first received my license to grow, I've been preparing for the new 2014 regs.
Instead of this being exclusive - I believe this will spawn a huge ma-and-pa industry of micro-groweries - like micro-breweries.
I understand the Liberals have indicated they will be keeping the new commercial cannabis production system when they are elected, and that they will expand the availability to recreational users.
A demographic trend is beginning.
Remember, Cannabis Laws were imposed upon us, and now science is overcoming the superstition.
Perhaps there will be thousands of growers who upgrade to become licensed.
Interested in learning more about what is required?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbFdcrGWq2Y
To Your Health.
Joey
Because I knew the laws were changing back in January of 2013 when I first received my license to grow, I've been preparing for the new 2014 regs.
Instead of this being exclusive - I believe this will spawn a huge ma-and-pa industry of micro-groweries - like micro-breweries.
I understand the Liberals have indicated they will be keeping the new commercial cannabis production system when they are elected, and that they will expand the availability to recreational users.
A demographic trend is beginning.
Remember, Cannabis Laws were imposed upon us, and now science is overcoming the superstition.
Perhaps there will be thousands of growers who upgrade to become licensed.
Interested in learning more about what is required?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbFdcrGWq2Y
To Your Health.
Joey
JonnyAppleSeed420
New Member
Advancements? What, the use of chemicals and hormones is considered safer by you? Food Poisoning Non-existant? Come on man!
What Like Maple Leaf's quality controls, or our government inspectors that let it happen?
Don't know anyone that fits your picture of a grow room, I have 14 growers who supply many patients, legal or not their rooms are cleaner then most people's homes.
Well maybe for someone that can not grow for physical reasons or just doesn't understand the process, like you! For me controlling my meds is the most important part of this drug. Having idiots producing it for profit will do nothing for the good of this drug. JAS
You are absolutely right, controlling the meds is what HC is trying to do with MMPR. As it is virtually impossible to control every Tom, Dick and Harry that grows their own meds HC is choosing to issue licensees and control those suppliers that meet it's criteria.
Do you buy produce from the supermarket? What about meat? What about aspirin when you have a headache? Do you think that those products would be safer if we were buying them from a large number of unregulated parties or do you feel a certain level of security knowing that the companies you do buy them from have a to meet a minimum level of quality control when handling the things you put in your body?
GardenOrganics
Active Member
What? I grow my own produce, i buy my meat from a farmer and i smoke a joint instead of taking bs headache pills. All From a back yard not i industrial facility
Health Canada realized nobody wanted the shitty weed from prairie farms so they are forcing us to buy from them........just like the mafia. if you dont buy from us you buy from nobody
Health Canada realized nobody wanted the shitty weed from prairie farms so they are forcing us to buy from them........just like the mafia. if you dont buy from us you buy from nobody
They are not really trying to force you to buy from PPS.. however you do have to understand that PPS have been working with HC for a long time and they will always have the advantage of knowing how to get ready and apply for the new system before anyone.. Also they have lots of money in this.. so I am not surprise that they have submitted their application on June 13.. the day that this MMRP shit is announced... Now on to all us (the poor forks), we have to wait and wait and then prep and more wait before even submitting our application.
So if PPS took almost 3 months to get their license.. you don't really expect anyone else will get their license until at least Jan (I am estimating based on the slowest of all government works). However from then on it will be very hard to get ready with first crop for sell before MMAR dies.. so PPS will benefit from those that can't survive without their meds and have no other way to get them except from PPS.. So they will get most market shares..
It is no different than any industry... like try to challenge walmart with a mom and pop store selling the same shit... good luck... Not saying you can't survive, but don't expect to get lots of market.
So if PPS took almost 3 months to get their license.. you don't really expect anyone else will get their license until at least Jan (I am estimating based on the slowest of all government works). However from then on it will be very hard to get ready with first crop for sell before MMAR dies.. so PPS will benefit from those that can't survive without their meds and have no other way to get them except from PPS.. So they will get most market shares..
It is no different than any industry... like try to challenge walmart with a mom and pop store selling the same shit... good luck... Not saying you can't survive, but don't expect to get lots of market.
JonnyAppleSeed420
New Member
No HC is trying to control the profit! Who really cares if Tom, Dick or Harry kills themselves because they are stupid idiots and can't grow good medicine. Why should I suffer or worse, die, because of these idiots?
Actually...No! to all of them. Sadly you are missing the point all together...Aspirin? All these over the counter drugs you buy readily, kill thousands and thousands every year, yes even Aspirin kill 80 people a year. Now talk about prescriptions and the numbers go through the roof. If people would just research what there ancestors used, they would be world ahead and much healthier, just from a few wild weeds that grow everywhere. There isn't any better quality control than yourself when it comes to your health that is...JAS
molemandan
Active Member
You do realize our ancestors had a much lower life expectancy. Thank modern medicine for extending ours.
isalandfarma
New Member
I would suggest that JAS get a new lawyer
Kootenaygirl
Active Member
I second the motion. Jas has been spewing since we started reading this. Negative and wrong mostly. I bet his lawyer is getting his MMPR license as we speak.
AB Bud Soon
Member
If ya do the math, there is plenty of market for LPs. No way in the world can PPS and 2 or 3 other suppliers corner the market. MMJ patients already hate PPS meds and can't wait to have options.
Think about how many grams/month are needed in this country. Some 40,000 patients needing, who know, how many grams/month....1 mill...3 mill..5 million grams a month? That's why PPS is reportedly accused of grinding stalks and leaves into their mix. They couldn't make enough flower grams to provide all their required Rx/month, so they ground it all in together. (well....thats what more than a few websites have reported)
12,000 plants makes 4,068 KG (using 3/4 pound as an average harvest per plant). Now that is over a 3 month grow + 10 days dry/cure + 5 to 10 days QA testing...so lets round that to 4 months from seed to sale. So 4,068 KG (4,068,000 grams) produced over 4 months = 1,371,454 grams of market ready meds on any given month. At an average of, let's say, 5g/day Rx that is enough to only supply 9143 patients (@ 5g/day). I'm not sure how many plants PPS harvests every week (and I mean plants and not just flowers LOL ) but there is room for more LPs than you think.
People will want to "shop local", or hate that it takes 5 days from BC to PEI by Canada Post (good luck with that). Yes getting "big" will help LPs survive the weed crash when it happens...yes some mom-n-pop LPs will survive as well. Alliances will form. Goals of franchising coast to coast will be attempted, and some will fail. But that is the nature of free commerce. You can never sell too much of a good thing, but you can't sell any of a bad thing. I'm sure PPS is crapping their drawers right now when they begin to see their revenues plunge.
Cheers
Think about how many grams/month are needed in this country. Some 40,000 patients needing, who know, how many grams/month....1 mill...3 mill..5 million grams a month? That's why PPS is reportedly accused of grinding stalks and leaves into their mix. They couldn't make enough flower grams to provide all their required Rx/month, so they ground it all in together. (well....thats what more than a few websites have reported)
12,000 plants makes 4,068 KG (using 3/4 pound as an average harvest per plant). Now that is over a 3 month grow + 10 days dry/cure + 5 to 10 days QA testing...so lets round that to 4 months from seed to sale. So 4,068 KG (4,068,000 grams) produced over 4 months = 1,371,454 grams of market ready meds on any given month. At an average of, let's say, 5g/day Rx that is enough to only supply 9143 patients (@ 5g/day). I'm not sure how many plants PPS harvests every week (and I mean plants and not just flowers LOL ) but there is room for more LPs than you think.
People will want to "shop local", or hate that it takes 5 days from BC to PEI by Canada Post (good luck with that). Yes getting "big" will help LPs survive the weed crash when it happens...yes some mom-n-pop LPs will survive as well. Alliances will form. Goals of franchising coast to coast will be attempted, and some will fail. But that is the nature of free commerce. You can never sell too much of a good thing, but you can't sell any of a bad thing. I'm sure PPS is crapping their drawers right now when they begin to see their revenues plunge.
Cheers