Support HR 5843 and HR 5842
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medicineman
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I'd bet that at least 90% of Americans smoke dope, (I'm including those who are too fearful to admit it).
I'm sorry, but on this, I'll disagree. I'd venture the actual percentage is more like 18-28% and that is being highly optimistic. The reason it is being decriminalized is most people are getting more education and can see for themselves the stupidity of the criminal penalty.
By Katherine Hobson
Posted 7/30/07
Marijuana has long had the reputation of being a relatively harmless drug. Two recent studies, however, highlight its potential dangers: One suggests that using marijuana increases the odds of eventually developing a psychotic disorder, while the other found that smoking one marijuana joint affected the lungs as much as smoking five cigarettes. We spoke with Marc Kaufman, director of the Translational Imaging Laboratory at McLean Hospital, a Harvard-affiliated psychiatric hospital, and an associate professor of psychiatry at Harvard, to get some perspective on pot. He studies the effects of drugs on the brain and other bodily systems.
Health: How Risky Is it to Smoke Pot? One Expert's Take - US News and World Report
So there are conflicting studies/opinions about the dangers/benefits of extended pot usage. No pot smoker wants to hear any anti-pot stuff, this is relatively easy to see, but who knows, there may be something to it.
I'm sorry, but on this, I'll disagree. I'd venture the actual percentage is more like 18-28% and that is being highly optimistic. The reason it is being decriminalized is most people are getting more education and can see for themselves the stupidity of the criminal penalty.
By Katherine Hobson
Posted 7/30/07
Marijuana has long had the reputation of being a relatively harmless drug. Two recent studies, however, highlight its potential dangers: One suggests that using marijuana increases the odds of eventually developing a psychotic disorder, while the other found that smoking one marijuana joint affected the lungs as much as smoking five cigarettes. We spoke with Marc Kaufman, director of the Translational Imaging Laboratory at McLean Hospital, a Harvard-affiliated psychiatric hospital, and an associate professor of psychiatry at Harvard, to get some perspective on pot. He studies the effects of drugs on the brain and other bodily systems.
Health: How Risky Is it to Smoke Pot? One Expert's Take - US News and World Report
So there are conflicting studies/opinions about the dangers/benefits of extended pot usage. No pot smoker wants to hear any anti-pot stuff, this is relatively easy to see, but who knows, there may be something to it.
OnSolomonsGrave
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See I feel taxed without adequate representation... oh wait....
Dankdude
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Alcohol is taxed,
Tobacco is Taxed,
Both of these things start out being used on a recreational basis.
Taxing Marijuana for the same reasons in order to get it legalized and make it to where the rest of us can come out of the shadows is worth it.
Look at it this way Vi, you (since you are in California) don't have to hide when using your medicine, but you have to look at the rest of the country. We are tired of having to hide.
If it means giving the government a piece of the pie to do so, then so be it.
Your just spoiled when it come to it because you don't have to stay in the shadows to us it.
Face it, in order to make it legal, the government will want their piece of the pie.
Your just too busy trying to avoid paying taxes.
Tobacco is Taxed,
Both of these things start out being used on a recreational basis.
Taxing Marijuana for the same reasons in order to get it legalized and make it to where the rest of us can come out of the shadows is worth it.
Look at it this way Vi, you (since you are in California) don't have to hide when using your medicine, but you have to look at the rest of the country. We are tired of having to hide.
If it means giving the government a piece of the pie to do so, then so be it.
Your just spoiled when it come to it because you don't have to stay in the shadows to us it.
Face it, in order to make it legal, the government will want their piece of the pie.
Your just too busy trying to avoid paying taxes.
ViRedd
New Member
Dank ...
You've made an excellent point about me being spoiled regarding medical marijuana.
Californians worked really hard to get Prop 215 on the ballot. Man, its been ten years of freedom now ... and it feels REAL good.
Now, its your turn, and others like you who live in prohibition states to join California and the rest of the free states. Get a medical marijuana proposition on your ballot. If you don't have a referendum system, work to vote the prohibitionists in your state legislatures out of office.
The legalization of marijuana should be a states right issue. The federal government shouldn't be in the business of marijuana prohibition. There's nothing in the Constitution authorizing them to enforce marijuana laws in the states if the marijuana doesn't cross state lines. (See the 9th and 10th Amendments). Oh yes, they'll use the "Commerce Clause" argument for sure ... but, why did we need an amendment to the Constitution to prohibit alcohol on the federal level and another constitutional amendment to repeal it? What's changed? The only thing that's changed is that the federal government has gained too much unconstitutional power and the citizenry has lost sight of American history.
The guys who threw the tea into Boston Harbor would have looked at it my way I think.
Vi
You've made an excellent point about me being spoiled regarding medical marijuana.
Californians worked really hard to get Prop 215 on the ballot. Man, its been ten years of freedom now ... and it feels REAL good.
Now, its your turn, and others like you who live in prohibition states to join California and the rest of the free states. Get a medical marijuana proposition on your ballot. If you don't have a referendum system, work to vote the prohibitionists in your state legislatures out of office.
The legalization of marijuana should be a states right issue. The federal government shouldn't be in the business of marijuana prohibition. There's nothing in the Constitution authorizing them to enforce marijuana laws in the states if the marijuana doesn't cross state lines. (See the 9th and 10th Amendments). Oh yes, they'll use the "Commerce Clause" argument for sure ... but, why did we need an amendment to the Constitution to prohibit alcohol on the federal level and another constitutional amendment to repeal it? What's changed? The only thing that's changed is that the federal government has gained too much unconstitutional power and the citizenry has lost sight of American history.
The guys who threw the tea into Boston Harbor would have looked at it my way I think.
Vi
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Wolfman Zen
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bump ......
mockingbird131313
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August 14, 2008
Mr. Mockingbird
Saint Louis, MO
Dear Mr. Mockingbird:
This will let you know I received your recent Email message regarding HR 5843, The Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults Act.
I appreciate your contacting me to express your interest in this legislation. I share the views you expressed. I believe that federal criminal penalties for the possession and not-for-profit transfer of small amounts of marijuana should be eliminated. I am cosponsoring this legislation and I will do everything I can to represent your interests on this issue in the U.S. House of Representatives.
Thank you for your correspondence. I hope you will continue to share your thoughts on the vital issues facing Congress.
Sincerely,
Wm. Lacy Clay
Member of Congress
Have YOU contacted your
House Member?
Mr. Mockingbird
Saint Louis, MO
Dear Mr. Mockingbird:
This will let you know I received your recent Email message regarding HR 5843, The Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults Act.
I appreciate your contacting me to express your interest in this legislation. I share the views you expressed. I believe that federal criminal penalties for the possession and not-for-profit transfer of small amounts of marijuana should be eliminated. I am cosponsoring this legislation and I will do everything I can to represent your interests on this issue in the U.S. House of Representatives.
Thank you for your correspondence. I hope you will continue to share your thoughts on the vital issues facing Congress.
Sincerely,
Wm. Lacy Clay
Member of Congress
Have YOU contacted your
House Member?
Spitzered
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I don't know how good or bad pot is for you. I haven't heard of anyone overdosing on it.
And dying. I do know of people who have completed transformed into a human covering for the couch tho. But one thing I do believe tho, 'If a woman has the right to chose what to do with her body (abortion), why will smoking pot warrant punishment? Its my body.
Drug screening? You need a warrant to search someones house (supposedly), but you can search someones internal body? Something wrong with that.
We are children and must be protected by big brother I guess.
And dying. I do know of people who have completed transformed into a human covering for the couch tho. But one thing I do believe tho, 'If a woman has the right to chose what to do with her body (abortion), why will smoking pot warrant punishment? Its my body.
Drug screening? You need a warrant to search someones house (supposedly), but you can search someones internal body? Something wrong with that.
We are children and must be protected by big brother I guess.
Wolfman Zen
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Yes I have... but it looks like you got a better response then me....
Congress of the United States
House of Representatives
July 31, 2008
Mr. "Wolfman Zen"
PO Box XXXX
Washington State
Dear "Wolfman"
Thank you for contacting me regarding your support for the legalization of marijuana in the United States. I appreciate you taking the time to share your views with me.
As you may know, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has classified marijuana and a number of other substances as a Schedule I Drug. According to the FDA, these drugs carry a high potential for dangerous abuse. I am opposed to the legalization of marijuana, or any other Schedule I drug and I am concerned that legalization will only result in increased abuse of all varieties of drugs.
As you may know, I represent more than 660,000 people in Central Washington. As a result, there are occasions when I take a position on which not every constituent will agree. While you and I may not agree on this issue, I remain open to discussing this and any other issue with you. Again, thank you for taking the time to contact me.
Sincerely,
Doc Hastings
Member of Congress
Don't worry though... I voted for the other guy
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