Sweet-n-Sour Diesel

r3dn3ck

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Strain: Sweet-n-Sour Diesel
Genetics: S/I
Flower Time: 8 weeks
Indoor/Outdoor: Both
Height: 2'-6'

Easy as pie to grow. Very resiliant so far with heat and light and nute changes. Doesn't like particularly strong nute solutions and drinks water heavily during flower. Responds incredibly well to LST, topping and super cropping. Heavy producer.
 

gudkarma

New Member
with that nice short flower time, i am curious as to the breeder too.

love my sour d cut...

i had been looking at cannacopia's "chuck d"... deep chunk x sour d
 

r3dn3ck

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breeder unknown. 8 weeks is what I was told it should harvest at. We'll see where it actually ripens. They've grown really bushy and not very tall at all, showing the indica traits that I'm hoping are present in the time to ripen factor. The 2 I have in flower have gnarly dense nugs that are pretty tall so far at the start of week 4. They've actually been a little more aggressive in flowering than the 2 more indica dominant plants I'm about to harvest. We'll have a full report in a month.
 

drlearysbud

Well-Known Member
So you didn't get these seeds' from a seed bank than. Did you get them from a friend or from a dispensary?
 

r3dn3ck

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not seeds. clones. A friend got them at a club for me. That club is no longer operating. I have another set from a the club I normally go to that appear quite similar. Given the number of times I've seen a budtender move a clone from one tray to another and never move it back I've begun to doubt the labeled genetics on club clones pretty heavily. Some things are obvious, some not so much. This SnS looks largely identical to a couple other strains in my collection so far.

I never grow from seed. Don't want any of the hassles. The hassles with clones are enough to deal with.
 

r3dn3ck

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Ok, well I've confirmed it. You can do this as a 8 or 9 week strain depending on what you want. I took it to 8 weeks on one. I'm finishing up week 9 on the other.

9th week gets plenty of amber trich's showing up. 8 weeks was fully cloudy, a few amber and good swelling in the bud. I I have 8 more of them going (staggered) so I'll see about taking one towards 10 weeks and see if that's just too long or not.

Yield under a 400w HPS should land right at 2 ounces of manicured dried flowers off the first plant (based on 25% of wet weight). About the same will come from the 2nd. The first plant also netted 4g of pressed hash which I extracted with bubblebags and pressed with my bench vice and a jig I made for the purpose.

This plant talks to you during its life. It tells you very clearly what's happening. A joy to grow so far.

Smoke report: The hash I pressed out of this strain was amazing. I haven't been truly stoned in a long time. This was fully there. Even got so high I felt a little anxiety. It was short lived but awesome. Psychedelic effect, couchlock, dry mouth, munchies. Love that. It's hard to get there for me. Oh, and the lung expansion was epic. Me and a buddy burned about a gram of it and we were lit.

The buds I early harvested and quick dried last week were nice. A little fuely but otherwise it's not a really noteworthy flavor profile. Mellow and not harsh. I'm hoping the curing process helps big-up that flavor a bit.

Pics:
Flowers. Each big square on the floor is 6 inches. Each small square is 1 inch. Figured it was good for an idea of scale.


Hash. The little pile is >100µ and less than 220µ. Was pretty good for what it was. There was about a gram of it. The big pile is <100µ and >25µ. I dried it and then pressed it. 7 grams of (reasonably) dry bubble hash became 4 grams of pressed hash. This was my first attempt using the bags and pressing. I think next time I'll let it sit in the press for a couple days to help homogenize it.


Manicured and drying. An easy 2 ounces. Actually it all didn't fit in there. I have a second area with 3 good size sticks-o-bud as well.
 

r3dn3ck

Active Member
I picked up some Botanicare Sweet Raw and some Canna PK 13/14. Now that I'm hitting my stride I want to take it to the next level.

My nute recipe has been (per gallon) 25ml PBPG, 25ml PGPB, 10ml cal-mag. I'm going to change it to 20ml PBPG, 20ml PBPB, 10ml cal-mag, 6ml PK-13/14, 10ml Sweet Raw per the recommendation of one of my mentors.

Thoughts?
 

r3dn3ck

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Started Canna 13/14 PK spike (6ml/gal) on my 4 week flowering SnS diesel. Looks to like it. Seeing more aggressive bud development than I'm used to. On my 2 week old set I'm using 1ml/gal of the PK. All my plants now get 10ml/gal of Sweet Raw. I'm going to toss in a block of dry ice today too. I'm trying to get more than 2oz from the big one and at least an ounce fro the 6 smaller ones.

Pics:
SnS is the big one. Jacks old time haze is the true sativa on the right.


Fan leaf from one of my young SnS Diesels


The tall straight stemmed ones are SnS Diesels. This batch is all growing in large-single-cola mode. To date I've only done LST style harvests. The tall curly stem on the far left is 707-headband. The 2 short ones on the right at Blue Dream.
 

r3dn3ck

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I tossed in the dry ice and got an obvious result, all the fan leaves that were perpendicular to the stalks reached for the sky like a cryin' southern baptist. Instantly I knew that my CO2 levels were low. So, I went out and got a proper CO2 system. It's blowing 3 cubic feet per day into the room spread out over the whole day in 15 minute bursts. It sprays just before the lights come on, 2 midday runs and 1 afternoon run. With the PK spike + Sweet + CO2 I'm hoping for a 20-40% production gain. I need to work on getting a CO2 sniffer now. The timer and power strip and filled new bottle and regulator kit ran just under 400 bucks all in. I should get 2 months on a 20lbs bottle. I may up the rate though after I get the sniffer. 5x5 room though, 2 months is about right. 1 bottle per grow cycle.

That brings the total cost of each grow cycle to about 150 bucks. Pulling a QP from 150 bucks is pretty ok.
 

r3dn3ck

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Came home last night to find my tall girls 4" from the light. They'd stretched 2" more in 18hrs. I should almost be able to watch them grow at this rate. Jack is 4" taller than she was. I had to re-tie it down again. CO2 FTMFW!

I went to the club yesterday and talked to one of the guys, he's telling me to expect Jack to keep stretching until mid-February and then it'll fill out. It's already got the biggest stem I've ever seen on one. I finally found the first pistils coming off it last night. Each tip has a pair of pistils shooting out.

The buds on the older SnS Diesel are getting nice and tall and fat. Really a lot faster development than I'd experienced without CO2 enrichment. I'm sure the PK and Sweet are helping too but they didn't seem to be getting much response until the CO2 experiment.

5 weeks from harvest. I'm still smoking the last batch. Still have about 2.5ounces of it left. Hopefully that'll carry me the month.
 

r3dn3ck

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About 1 month from harvest of my tall ones, 3 weeks from harvest on the LST plant. They're all really heavily filling out now. Just starting to see the first oranging hairs on the older LST plant. It'll plump up for at least 2 more weeks. Yippee. If it does what I think it'll do I should get 2.5oz from the LST and about 1/2 - 3/4oz each from the tall girls. I can just as easily grow 9 super tall singles in the space that I can grow 2 normal or LST'd plants and after these are harvested and dried I'll get final weights and see what's best as far as return. Picking up a plant and pulling 9 clones off it is easy, so if all I have to do is keep 18 plants in flower straight from cloning to meet the need then that's cool by me. That's just for this SnS Diesel strain though. I've got several other strains going. This is by far the best of them so far though. HEAVY producer.

Another upside, at the end of the month I'm staring 15g of pressed hash in the face. With 10 plants coming through I'll be sitting with scissors for a few days pretty soon. Stoked!

More Pics after the weekend. The bud development has been so rapid I want to see a little more before snapping the next pic. Here's last weekend:
 

r3dn3ck

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Harvest completed. Got 1.9oz dry from the LST'd plant and a total of 2.8 ounces from the 6 single cola plants that went straight from cloning to flower with no veg time. I've got 2 new strains in the veg cabinet now.

Hash harvest was 5 grams of high grade pressed and 2 grams of not-so-high-grade pressed. Only did 2 15 minute spins with the bubble bags this time. Didn't care to get the dregs, I'll pull that out with butane.

All in all this is an excellent strain. Grown big and tall it yields really big impressive colas with tons of trichomes. It's fully ready in 8 weeks (cloudy with a little amber) but could be taken to 9 just as easily for a heavier body hit. It's extremely forgiving of nutrient over-use. Of all the strains I've grown so far, this has been the easiest and best. It's also been producing the absolute most potent herb I've had pretty much ever.
 
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