Fuel does not remain constant, nor do supplies. Costs are constantly changing...
Sweet Potatoes, food, and why the hell don't farm laborers earn more?
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Roger A. Shrubber
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corporate farms are what they are, and do what they do. the same rules don't apply to them as to smaller scale farmers. literally.
i'm speaking about the guys that can't afford to keep help on full time, and have to budget for it at harvest time. the guys that are forced to learn mechanics and hydraulics repair because they can't afford to take it to the shop. the real farmers.
corporate farms carry the load now because that's the way it is, too many people living in cities consuming, and too few living in the country producing. part of that is a societal problem, and part of it is big business inserting itself into agriculture.
i'm speaking about the guys that can't afford to keep help on full time, and have to budget for it at harvest time. the guys that are forced to learn mechanics and hydraulics repair because they can't afford to take it to the shop. the real farmers.
corporate farms carry the load now because that's the way it is, too many people living in cities consuming, and too few living in the country producing. part of that is a societal problem, and part of it is big business inserting itself into agriculture.
for this particular analisys it is. because what I am looking to compare is the approximate effect changing one variable has on overall cost situation. That variable in this instance is the cost of harvest labor which is almost 100% done by immigrants, most of which are not in the US illegaly....
What are you going on about 'real farmers'? There's no more 1 acre plots where the family uses that single acre to try and make a living... that doesn't exist in the US anymore. what you do have is these 'family farms' that are several hundred acres in size, fully equipped and working with multi-million dollar budgets passing themselves off as some sort of struggling operation.....
Roger A. Shrubber
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i've been on those family farms, someone has been feeding you a line of bullshit.
some of them are doing alright, making a profit, because they live in the right area and grow the right things.
some of them have been on the land they own for generations. its the only life they've ever known.
they were doing alright till politics and big business got involved. between tariffs and competition that can afford occasional losses, a lot of family farms are barely hanging on.
some of them are doing alright, making a profit, because they live in the right area and grow the right things.
some of them have been on the land they own for generations. its the only life they've ever known.
they were doing alright till politics and big business got involved. between tariffs and competition that can afford occasional losses, a lot of family farms are barely hanging on.
Fogdog
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Smaller farms are numerous but not even close in number to what they were in 1970. Today, many are struggling and have trouble competing with larger more efficient corporate farms. Because those large industrial farms are large chemically dependent crop mono-cultures that produce relatively few varieties of food, I think this is a threat to our food supply
Roger A. Shrubber
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https://coststudyfiles.ucdavis.edu/uploads/cs_public/6f/32/6f32eea8-df52-4607-897b-6a90537a8aff/potatosweetsjv2006.pdf
this is a pretty accurate estimate...
this is a pretty accurate estimate...
There is little family farms all over san diego county...
And i never said "real farmer"
Maybe its the lazy video game generations fault
Smaller farms are numerous but not even close in number to what they were in 1970. Today, many are struggling and have trouble competing with larger more efficient corporate farms. Because those large industrial farms are large chemically dependent crop mono-cultures that produce relatively few varieties of food, I think this is a threat to our food supply
Fogdog
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Old people falsely blaming the younger ones for the state of the world is an old story.Maybe its the lazy video game generations fault
ttystikk
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I'll look at this.
@redivider makes a lot of solid points.
He was clear about using an incremental cost analysis approach, where only the difference in cost between the two variables is counted.
That's a valid approach, because paying the harvesting crews more does not affect the price of fertiliser.
Huh, ya dont say. I love call of duty.