Symbol of Fascism in the House of Reps!!!!
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I really hope this is just like the "red scare" and shit... I hope we can act in time before all this bullshit bureaucratic legislation gets passed and we create hundreds of federal agencies taxing the hell out of us, telling us what materials are "energy efficient" enough for us to build our houses with, making us spent tens of thousands of dollars making our houses energy efficient according to "their" standards before we can sell, having to have an agency send members to inspect the house after every modification to re-assess the house's "energy" rating....
I hope we realize that making the government all powerful is not gonna help us. A powerful government is corrupt. Our founding fathers proved that... they must be rolling over in their graves seeing how our congress is seriously considering these blasphemous "laws" which can't even be enforced (but give the government the right to legally criminalize any person they see fit, but now instead of needing marijuana, they can say, you're not energy efficient enough...) This is scary stuff...
I hope we realize that making the government all powerful is not gonna help us. A powerful government is corrupt. Our founding fathers proved that... they must be rolling over in their graves seeing how our congress is seriously considering these blasphemous "laws" which can't even be enforced (but give the government the right to legally criminalize any person they see fit, but now instead of needing marijuana, they can say, you're not energy efficient enough...) This is scary stuff...
Passing the Cap and Trade bill and the Climate Change and Energy bill is giving the government the right to declare ANYONE a criminal. And we will be faced with Pay taxes (which will makes us bitch and moan and say, heeeey, what happened to "taxation without representation" being bad? and congress is gonna say, well, here's where we made it legal!) Or lose your home, car, office (anything that could pollute... which is EVERYTHING), and send you to jail.
Imagine the government limiting how much time you can watch TV for or how long you can be online for? (If you don't believe this, think about this: They want to put an energy rating on EVERY house in the country. Then they will legally be able to tax you WHATEVER THEY SEE FIT for the use of electricity... Guess what uses a ton of energy? Bingo... TVs and computers...) So because it is legal for them to regulate these things, they can simply tax X amount so that NO ONE can afford the "luxury" of "wasting" energy... It would affect EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US. And it would destroy jobs, sending companies to get their labor overseas to avoid stupid "carbon" taxes...
TheBrutalTruth
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Fasces
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Roman fasces.
Fasces (pronounced /ˈfæsiːz/, a plurale tantum, from the Latin word fascis, meaning "bundle"[1]) symbolize summary power and jurisdiction, and/or "strength through unity".[2] Fasces frequently occur as a charge in heraldry, and should not be confused with the related term, fess, which in French heraldry is called a fasce.
The traditional Roman fasces consisted of a bundle of white birch rods, tied together with a red leather ribbon into a cylinder, and often including a bronze axe (or sometimes two) amongst the rods, with the blade(s) on the side, projecting from the bundle.[3] It was used as a symbol of the Roman Republic in many circumstances, including being carried in processions, much the way a flag might be carried today.
TreesOfLife
Now you're just being paranoid, and silly.
The usage of the Fasces dates back to the Roman Republic, and is a symbol denoting power and jurisidiction, for the United States, which relies heavily upon the Roman Influence of Western European law, civilization and customs to adopt the Fasces to represent the Legislative power of the House is not something to be up in arms about.
Now, take a deep breath, go have a joint, and chill out.
TreesOfLife
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I'm not being paranoid, I'm just posting this to inform others.Fasces
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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"Bundle of sticks" redirects here. For a literal bundle of sticks, see Faggot (wood).
Roman fasces.
Fasces (pronounced /ˈfæsiːz/, a plurale tantum, from the Latin word fascis, meaning "bundle"[1]) symbolize summary power and jurisdiction, and/or "strength through unity".[2] Fasces frequently occur as a charge in heraldry, and should not be confused with the related term, fess, which in French heraldry is called a fasce.
The traditional Roman fasces consisted of a bundle of white birch rods, tied together with a red leather ribbon into a cylinder, and often including a bronze axe (or sometimes two) amongst the rods, with the blade(s) on the side, projecting from the bundle.[3] It was used as a symbol of the Roman Republic in many circumstances, including being carried in processions, much the way a flag might be carried today.
TreesOfLife
Now you're just being paranoid, and silly.
The usage of the Fasces dates back to the Roman Republic, and is a symbol denoting power and jurisidiction, for the United States, which relies heavily upon the Roman Influence of Western European law, civilization and customs to adopt the Fasces to represent the Legislative power of the House is not something to be up in arms about.
Now, take a deep breath, go have a joint, and chill out.
That is the nice definition.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fasces
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fasces
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fasces (plural fascis)
- A Roman symbol of judicial authority consisting of a bundle of wooden sticks, with an axe blade embedded in the centre; used also as a symbol of fascism
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–noun (usually used with a singular verb
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1590–1600; < L, pl. of fascis bundle, pack
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fas·ces (fās'ēz')
pl.n. A bundle of rods bound together around an ax with the blade projecting, carried before ancient Roman magistrates as an emblem of authority.
[Latin fascēs, pl. of fascis, bundle.]
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1598, from L. fasces "bundle of rods containing an axe with the blade projecting" (pl. of fascis "bundle" of wood, etc.), carried before a lictor, a superior Roman magistrate, as a symbol of power over life and limb: the sticks symbolized punishment by whipping, the axe head execution by beheading. Probably cognate with M.Ir. basc "neckband," Welsh baich "load, burden," O.E. bæst "inner bark of the linden tree."
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fasces
(plural form of Latin fascis: "bundle") in ancient Rome, insignia of official authority. It was carried by the lictors, or attendants, and was characterized by an ax head projecting from a bundle of elm or birch rods about 5 feet (1.5 metres) long and tied together with a red strap; it symbolized penal power. When carried inside Rome, the ax was removed (unless the magistrate was a dictator or general celebrating a triumph) as recognition of the right of a Roman citizen to appeal a magistrate's ruling. The discovery of a miniature iron set of fasces in a 7th-century BC Etruscan tomb at Vetulonia confirms the traditional view that Rome derived the fasces from the Etruscans. The Roman emperors, beginning with Augustus in 19 BC, had 12 fasces, but, after Domitian (reigned AD 81-96), they had 24; dictators, 24; consuls, 12; praetors, 6; legates, 5; priests, 1. Lowering of the fasces was a form of salute to a higher official.
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TreesOfLife
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Also in the book Signs & Symbols by Mark O'Connell and Raje Airey:
ISBN 0-681-18582-1
States: Fasces : Pictorial representation of an axe wrapped around with rods and bound with leather which Roman officials carried as a symbol of their authority. Later the fasces became a Roman punitive emblem of state power, and was later adopted by fascism.
ISBN 0-681-18582-1
States: Fasces : Pictorial representation of an axe wrapped around with rods and bound with leather which Roman officials carried as a symbol of their authority. Later the fasces became a Roman punitive emblem of state power, and was later adopted by fascism.
TheBrutalTruth
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Okay, fine, it's a Fascist Symbol, but its use here does not relate to its usage under Fascism.