T5-ho zonie style

infoseek said:

I doubt its anything to do with ph. ..easy cop out for giving too many nutes.
Honestly you kinda got to be a retard to fuck up ph in soil.
In hydro its a little more important but not too much between 6.0-7.0 and your good. In soil ro water and your good. plants will live and grow just fine from 5.5-7.0.
Cut your nutes in half and have no more problems!
Ppm is much more important. Here in az plants don't like so much salt so if you can't monitor your ppm just cut you.r nutes in half and use a one part nute to leave less room to fuck up gh floranova is great!

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RO water may be the right Ph but doesn't have calcium, magnesium, or other things a plant in soil will need.

Scupra said:

RO water may be the right Ph but doesn't have calcium, magnesium, or other things a plant in soil will need.

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Feed, water, wate, water, feed and ro is perfect for you water because your in soil it holds the nutes from when you feed.

If you are growing in soil you are growing more for the quality than anything so your goal should be to use as little nutes as possible! More is not beter..

infoseek said:

Feed, water, wate, water, feed and ro is perfect for you water because your in soil it holds the nutes from when you feed.

If you are growing in soil you are growing more for the quality than anything so your goal should be to use as little nutes as possible! More is not beter..

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Do you have pictures of your so call "light nute" method? If you are using synthetics then I believe what you say, but as far as organics goes...it seems like the more you can give it in moderation the better...please elaborate on your feeding schedule so I understand what you are trying to explain.

Bird Gymnastics said:

Do you have pictures of your so call "light nute" method? If you are using synthetics then I believe what you say, but as far as organics goes...it seems like the more you can give it in moderation the better...please elaborate on your feeding schedule so I understand what you are trying to explain.

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I personally do not grow in soil. I do not ever run the amount the bottles say always less. Never set my res above 1000ppm even 6 weeks into flower with a 6 ft plant.
Yes you can use more with organics. Hense me bringing up floranova a combination of both. This nute is very forgiving to beginers as well as an awesome nutrient!

My main point is get your hid's up to the celing cut you nutes in half from what the bottles says keep your ph between 6.0-7.0 don't over water and your golden!

MurshDawg said:

good eye, OG! Who says old people are blind, lol jk. yes I am using 2 gal air pots. I didn't know they had a 2.4 gal ones. I have some 5 gal ones on standby... say do you know what the policy on reusing these smart pots? do you run them through the laundry?

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i pulled some males and i just shook the bags out. they look good. i have 1, 5 gallon smart pot. i'll have to use it one of these days. i'm thinking the smart pot sizes are way off. i look at a 5 gallon bucket, and the 5 gallon smart pot and no way are they the same.

infoseek said:

I personally do not grow in soil. I do not ever run the amount the bottles say always less. Never set my res above 1000ppm even 6 weeks into flower with a 6 ft plant.
Yes you can use more with organics. Hense me bringing up floranova a combination of both. This nute is very forgiving to beginers as well as an awesome nutrient!

My main point is get your hid's up to the celing cut you nutes in half from what the bottles says keep your ph between 6.0-7.0 don't over water and your golden!

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I agree that flora nova is a great base nutrient but i must be too much of a cannaseur. For some reason I can always taste if someone has used GH...even some of the best bud I have seen and smelt I could still taste that nutrient. That is why I had to go all organic from now on. Can't taste anything but the pure flavors of bud

Bird Gymnastics said:

I agree that flora nova is a great base nutrient but i must be too much of a cannaseur. For some reason I can always taste if someone has used GH...even some of the best bud I have seen and smelt I could still taste that nutrient. That is why I had to go all organic from now on. Can't taste anything but the pure flavors of bud

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Nug Burn....

Nutrients are nutrients.
Synthetic/organic or a combo
The way plants absorb nutrients is the same with all synthetc nutes no mater what company's it is. If you flush correctly with gh your going to have the same "non chem" taste, smell and way it burns as if you used. Humbold nutrients and flushed correctly. Yes product would vary with the dif company's nutes but if someone grows it right your not going to taste, smell or have a sparkler in you face from the chemicals

infoseek said:

Nutrients are nutrients.
Synthetic/organic or a combo
The way plants absorb nutrients is the same with all synthetc nutes no mater what company's it is. If you flush correctly with gh your going to have the same "non chem" taste, smell and way it burns as if you used. Humbold nutrients and flushed correctly. Yes product would vary with the dif company's nutes but if someone grows it right your not going to taste, smell or have a sparkler in you face from the chemicals

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Nutrients are definitely not the same. They are all derived from different sources. Yes the plant absorbs them the same way but in my case no matter how long you flush I can always taste synthetic nutrients. Unless used very minimal in an organic soil blend then that will mask it but still the finish will taste sythetic. Like sweet n low compared to pure cane sugar...sure both are sweet but in their own way.

Bird Gymnastics said:

Nutrients are definitely not the same. They are all derived from different sources. Yes the plant absorbs them the same way but in my case no matter how long you flush I can always taste synthetic nutrients. Unless used very minimal in an organic soil blend then that will mask it but still the finish will taste sythetic. Like sweet n low compared to pure cane sugar...sure both are sweet but in their own way.

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Hey info I thought you heard; Everybody knows Bird's got the word! lol

Bird Gymnastics said:

Nutrients are definitely not the same. They are all derived from different sources. Yes the plant absorbs them the same way but in my case no matter how long you flush I can always taste synthetic nutrients. Unless used very minimal in an organic soil blend then that will mask it but still the finish will taste sythetic. Like sweet n low compared to pure cane sugar...sure both are sweet but in their own way.

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My point. Its not the brand its the type of nutes.. you should never taste chemicals but with synthetics a plant will not produce the same flavors and aromas as with organics.
Sorry I am done thred hijacking

infoseek said:

My point. Its not the brand its the type of nutes.. you should never taste chemicals but with synthetics a plant will not produce the same flavors and aromas as with organics.
Sorry I am done thred hijacking

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+rep for apologizing for thread-jacking, bro

hows things goijn bro saw the vid uopdate looking good mate very good...

MurshDawg said:

Hey info I thought you heard; Everybody knows Bird's got the word! lol

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Bird is the word

kevin murphy said:

hows things goijn bro saw the vid uopdate looking good mate very good...

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I am actually happy to report that despite all the n00b torture she's been through Mama Super Skunk is recovering wonderfully. I was LSTing her the other night when *SNAP* I broke a branch off. Luckily for my stoner thinking and positive outlook; I calmly cliped the branch into a clone put her in an ice cream bucket and *BAM* one more super skunk Stay tuned for my next video update.

MurshDawg said:

I am actually happy to report that despite all the n00b torture she's been through Mama Super Skunk is recovering wonderfully. I was LSTing her the other night when *SNAP* I broke a branch off. Luckily for my stoner thinking and positive outlook; I calmly cliped the branch into a clone put her in an ice cream bucket and *BAM* one more super skunk Stay tuned for my next video update.

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Fuck bro... Have been waiting for your u tube update... Loading an update myself ... Question.... Does it normally take an hour to upload a video to Utube?

phxfire said:

Fuck bro... Have been waiting for your u tube update... Loading an update myself ... Question.... Does it normally take an hour to upload a video to Utube?

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It usually depends on the time of day you are uploading and if you use their editing crap.

Mush- you sold on the T5 over HPS? Hows the heat comparison?

Lucius Vorenus said:

Mush- you sold on the T5 over HPS? Hows the heat comparison?

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My t5 puts out less heat than my 250 watt HPS. My current theory is that t5s with this custom spectrum would actually produce better quality meds than the HPS (I know I'm gonna get shit for that statement). I am considering moving my lights around and having my t5 in a closet in the room because the HPS throws too much heat and I kinda wanna start flowering. All I need is one more timer. My whole isssue with HID lighting is the monochromatic lighting. I believe that aside from plasmas, the best lighting method is to use a multitude of spectrums. This is why I think we have LEDs and those Sun Spinner thingies. PAR charts show two things in my opinion. They show what light is most utilized by plants and demonstrate plants efficiency at converting light to energy. If you were to look at a PAR graph for the sun, you would see that the sun's spectrum is practically the complete inverse of what frequency of light plants crave. I will say my only gripe with t5s are plants do not stretch under t5s as much ast hey do with HPS. This is why I incorporated both lighting schemes into my grow plan.

MurshDawg said:

My t5 puts out less heat than my 250 watt HPS. My current theory is that t5s with this custom spectrum would actually produce better quality meds than the HPS (I know I'm gonna get shit for that statement). I am considering moving my lights around and having my t5 in a closet in the room because the HPS throws too much heat and I kinda wanna start flowering. All I need is one more timer. My whole isssue with HID lighting is the monochromatic lighting. I believe that aside from plasmas, the best lighting method is to use a multitude of spectrums. This is why I think we have LEDs and those Sun Spinner thingies. PAR charts show two things in my opinion. They show what light is most utilized by plants and demonstrate plants efficiency at converting light to energy. If you were to look at a PAR graph for the sun, you would see that the sun's spectrum is practically the complete inverse of what frequency of light plants crave. I will say my only gripe with t5s are plants do not stretch under t5s as much ast hey do with HPS. This is why I incorporated both lighting schemes into my grow plan.

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when I was convinced that CFLs were better than HPS I found a very interesting article... I wish I could find it...

High-pressure sodium lights yield yellow lighting (2200 K). They are used for the second (or reproductive) phase of the growth. If high-pressure sodium lights are used for the vegetative phase, plants will usually grow slightly more quickly. Fluorescent lights produce less luminosity* than high-intensity discharge lights. Bulbs rated in the higher Kelvin temperature range (5,000 to 6,500) emit more blue-spectrum light and those in the lower range (2,700 to 3,000) emit more red-spectrum light, although both also provide full-spectrum light in lower intensities.
*luminosity - Measure of brightness

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Spring Light
Light of the lengthening days of spring is dominated by the blue part of the light spectrum. Seedlings need blue light for the growth of stems, stalks and leaves. Thus spring is the growing season for plants.

Summer Light
Summer is the time plants blossom and grow buds. The red part of the light spectrum slowly dominates the light of early summer. Red light encourages plants to flower, the first step of sexual reproduction and the growth of fruits. As the summer progresses, the amount of red light in the sun's natural spectrum increases. The red light plus shorter days and cooler nights toward the end of summer signal to plant hormones that it is time for fruit to ripen and later, for leaves to change color and fall.

Fall and Winter Light
In the fall and winter, when many plants are dormant and cease growing, the spectrum of light from the sun is dominated by cool red and purple colors.