Tahoe OG in Dual Monster Plant System (Scrog Edition)

lordjin

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I will not have an uprising among my journal readers! Down! Down! Kneel before me! I command it!
Slivers? Where's my digital assassin?
Lol!


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vhc9763

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But I mean, come on, look at this. Look at this bombastic journal. I call myself "Lordjin" for Christ's sake.

Warning:
It should not surprise anyone now, before, or later that Jin is fucking full of himself.
But it's just a character I play for your amusement. You see, in reality I am but the shyest of lambs, and this is the only outlet where I can safely stick my chest out in front of the keyboard. Lol.

But you guys love it, too. That's why you read my journal. Because I'm dirty... not because I'm safe.
Hahaha hey from NZ....Your entertaining as hell, but more importantly the journal is informative. +rep dude I will aspire to be you when I grow up. I've been through the 200 odd pages quite a few times to check the progress and the results speak for themselves. The screen has done so well for a stretchy strain, will be interesting to see the yield!
 

lordjin

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Hahaha hey from NZ....Your entertaining as hell, but more importantly the journal is informative. +rep dude I will aspire to be you when I grow up. I've been through the 200 odd pages quite a few times to check the progress and the results speak for themselves. The screen has done so well for a stretchy strain, will be interesting to see the yield!
Yes! Thank you!
Oh, why am I still shouting? This shout function is awesome.
 

RavenMochi

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I will not have an uprising among my journal readers! Down! Down! Kneel before me! I command it!
Slivers? Where's my digital assassin?
Lol!


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Just broke 50k views and 2k likes. Yee-haw!
†LHFAO† I always told people you would rule with an iron fist. :p
Tell you what, I'll criticize your grows when i have enough hydro grows to back it up...mean ass bastard, I'll just stop saying nice shit!! TAKE THAT, GUY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE KEYBOARD!!! ;) You know I'm joking. Shit, if your good, your good, no need for humility if you can back it up. That just my not so humble opinion. SO TAKE IT, TAKE IT AND LIKE IT!!! :blsmoke:
as far as the whole "the best" so far, the best I've had has actually been an og from a grower here on riu, have I tried everything out there yet? No, no I haven't, but from what I've had the best thus far did indeed have an "OG" on the label. :p
 

lordjin

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†LHFAO† I always told people you would rule with an iron fist. :p
Tell you what, I'll criticize your grows when i have enough hydro grows to back it up...mean ass bastard, I'll just stop saying nice shit!! TAKE THAT, GUY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE KEYBOARD!!! ;) You know I'm joking. Shit, if your good, your good, no need for humility if you can back it up. That just my not so humble opinion. SO TAKE IT, TAKE IT AND LIKE IT!!! :blsmoke:
as far as the whole "the best" so far, the best I've had has actually been an og from a grower here on riu, have I tried everything out there yet? No, no I haven't, but from what I've had the best thus far did indeed have an "OG" on the label. :p
Raven to the rescue. Like, my hero, totally. Dig it.
 

lordjin

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This is from one of the weak lower branches. The 'fluff' or 'popcorn' if you will.

Note how even this small lower nug has formed into that tight, triangular shaped bud that is characteristic of good OG.

Jar appeal excellent.

Smells superb. Bud at this stage of drying usually gives off a little grassiness. Not these.
 

lordjin

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My cape is being dry cleaned, still haven't decided on a mask. :p

Seriously, you take some damn good pics. Cocky ass bastard. ;)
Hi, Raven. I took this photo for you. I promise I won't go around saying things like OG Kush is the best marijuana in the world.

But OG Kush is the best marijuana in the world. And mine is some of LA's best. Cheezy's genetics, my system. Unstoppable alliance of Los Angeles Ganja Force! Bam! Ouch! (If you think I'm wrong, post your bud pic next to this and tell me why.)

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And can you believe it? I got these clones for free. And not only that, they were hand-delivered to my doorstep with a smile. And not only that, the delivery guy got me high on some weed he had on him.

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And that nug is so frosty, it doesn't even look like marijuana anymore, but instead something not of this earth. Bam again! Ouch again! I'm gonna get high (again).

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Yeah, I've been talking mad shit lately. But fuck it. It's fun.
 

HiImNick

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Hi, Raven. I took this photo for you. I promise I won't go around saying things like OG Kush is the best marijuana in the world.

But OG Kush is the best marijuana in the world. And mine is some of LA's best. Cheezy's genetics, my system. Unstoppable alliance of Los Angeles Ganja Force! Bam! Ouch! (If you think I'm wrong, post your bud pic next to this and tell me why.)

Edit:
And can you believe it? I got these clones for free. And not only that, they were hand-delivered to my doorstep with a smile. And not only that, the delivery guy got me high on some weed he had on him.

Edit 2:
And that nug is so frosty, it doesn't even look like marijuana anymore, but instead something not of this earth. Bam again! Ouch again! I'm gonna get high (again).

Edit 3:
Yeah, I've been talking mad shit lately. But fuck it. It's fun.

I didn't mean anything I said as a reprimand. It was just an observation, really.. I really hate to step on other people's toes or to criticize. But you ask me to post a picture of a bud that I thought was the best ever and I will :) Here's a pic, and then after, why I think it's the best bud ever:









Name of strain: XJ-13
Genetics: J-1 x G-13
Taste: Fruity, has the distinctive "Jack" taste to it while also retaining the ocher bite of G-13. Perfect for the fruity lover
High: Soaring, inspiring, beautiful. Your love, Jin, is photography. Mines is music. I can listen to music all day while rolling up joint after joint after joint... d-_-b lol. This does to me what your OG does to you--gets you high on another level every time you pack another in the bong. I think this is symptomatic of just any good weed tbh. As long as it's good cheeba, I'm down for whateva

But, all in all, it's relative, like I said. If there was a way for these two buds to actually show down online that'd be tight but until then.. we're just going to have to go off opinion ;-)
 

C.Indica

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Remember everybody's bodies are different, and different levels of cannabinoids will react differently between us.
Jin, I think you should ask nicely for another clone of this Tahoe OG, and keep a Bonsai Mum' around.
All you would need is a single 20w-40w CFL.

Or if you feel like preserving a multitude of genetics, a small T5 system maybe.

I think you should keep this Tahoe Cheeze around for yourself.
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I didn't forget, just had technical issues.
:leaf:
 

lordjin

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I didn't mean anything I said as a reprimand. It was just an observation, really.. I really hate to step on other people's toes or to criticize. But you ask me to post a picture of a bud that I thought was the best ever and I will :) Here's a pic, and then after, why I think it's the best bud ever:









Name of strain: XJ-13
Genetics: J-1 x G-13
Taste: Fruity, has the distinctive "Jack" taste to it while also retaining the ocher bite of G-13. Perfect for the fruity lover
High: Soaring, inspiring, beautiful. Your love, Jin, is photography. Mines is music. I can listen to music all day while rolling up joint after joint after joint... d-_-b lol. This does to me what your OG does to you--gets you high on another level every time you pack another in the bong. I think this is symptomatic of just any good weed tbh. As long as it's good cheeba, I'm down for whateva

But, all in all, it's relative, like I said. If there was a way for these two buds to actually show down online that'd be tight but until then.. we're just going to have to go off opinion ;-)
Yeah, but did you grow that? This is a grow journal. I meant a bud growing that you personally have grown. Anyone can take a photo of some weed they bought. Hard to compare a bud photographed in its full glory while living compared to buds that have already been prepared for consumption.

By appearance I would say it's good, but that slight foxtailing indicates that it's not perfect. Any number of LA shops will carry a mid-grade bud that would rival that (on appearance anyway).

When you smoke a different primo OG about every four days or so like I do, one high tends to melt into the other, but they always stay at the same level. When I hit any of the under 65 strains (among them Jack Herer and Haze), I'm left with a heady high that leaves me wanting something more in my body, so I always end up reaching for the OG anyway. That's why I don't smoke anything else. Nothing else gets me fully high anymore after becoming accustomed to the chemical makeup of OG Kush. There's a reason OG Kush costs the most. It's the best. LA shops carry all that G13 Jack cross business, too. Come on, it's LA... you don't think we have that, too? And it's always on the shelf UNDER OGK.

The shop people don't bullshit when it comes to how they price, either. They price based on which weed they think is best. All shops. And Primo OG is always the brand at the top of any menu.

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And for those of you who don't know, OG Kush, REAL OG Kush, nugs up small. So at my shop, the premium jars have the medium to small dense OG nugs, and the mid-grade to lower grade jars have the huge chunky nugs grown by the genetically inferior plants.

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I would confidently pit this here Tahoe I'm growing against that XJ-13 with the most seasoned judge as a tester. But who am I really going up against? Who grew that? But it doesn't matter. If you smoked my shit after you smoked that, you wouldn't even know you smoked that. My weed already did that to some top-shelf Herojuana I was smoking... and it wasn't even dry yet. Now I wonder how high it'll get me when it's actually dry and cured?
 

lordjin

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Remember everybody's bodies are different, and different levels of cannabinoids will react differently between us.
Jin, I think you should ask nicely for another clone of this Tahoe OG, and keep a Bonsai Mum' around.
All you would need is a single 20w-40w CFL.

Or if you feel like preserving a multitude of genetics, a small T5 system maybe.

I think you should keep this Tahoe Cheeze around for yourself.
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I didn't forget, just had technical issues.
:leaf:
That's sweet.

Yeah, this Tahoe is worth cloning for sure. But I'm sure whatever Cheeze gets his hands on next will be just as awesome if not more (if that's possible).

And while I agree with your comment about the physiological differences between individuals, I would venture to say that if one weed is flat out better than another, the outcome will be the same with most if not all test subjects.
 

DST

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Hey Jin,

Howzit my bru!

I was waiting for you to give us a run down on the craby watsit thing in the video, but it just kept zizzing around and amusing your cat, I really wanted it to take a swipe at crabby thing, lol.

Anyway, here's my take on your scroggle.

What..... hold on, need to get name.....What, Bluberry said is actually kind of true for a scrog with certain strains. Here's how I think I know how: I ran a couple of cheese scrogs (not exo though), one which I filled out the screen, one which I trained a bit more in flower....biggest yielder, the filled out screen, because of the type of strain I felt. Now this goes against results that I have seen from some peoples scrogs who fill their screen only partially, then train through the stretch, I haven't seen any of Bluberry's grows (sorry), but my man Interga21 (hope you are cool wherever you are bru), his screens were always amazing and he started only with a partially filled out screen, then used stretch in flower to fill the rest. However, saying that I can see why, his strains had a certain vigour to them that enabled the partial screen fill, I know as I have grown some of his offspring genetics.
Now, onto OG's and the specific type that I feel are unsurpassed by few other strains, from what I see the Tahoe, Louie the whatever (cheeze knows the one, lol) my DOG, mwahahahaha(of course) and some other secret kush strains that I have seen like the Purple Kush from your neighbours. Now, they all grow a fairly stretchy plants, and I feel this comes down to the genetics from the kush valley. A friend of mine who lived out there said he had plants that would grow half way up his house, they have bloody stretchy genetics by all accounts. BUT, they all grow these amazing hard nuggets that, Jin, Cheeze, and many others lurkers will testify to(lol), but you get fairly large node spacing of course! This I feel on the kush strains doesn't really effect a good varieties yield, because as I have found the lower nugs are always solid and super tasty. I think the word, Fluff or, Popcorn is a misnomer when you are talking about top end kush strains, if grown correctly you will not get them.

A different strain may fill through the stretch then the vigour of the plant will grow fat buds across all sites, without stretching vertically, enably a more compact grow with many large colas. THIS IS not going to happen imo with these strains.

So I never vegged my DOG in the screen that I posted on the previous pages, and filled most of the screen in the stretch, and I have a screen of nugs, very nice indeed. But if I had vegged the whole screen, I would be looking at a whole screen of new plants effectively, each yielding hard nugs. So I think what I am trying to say is that filling the screen out is the most effective thing to do with this strain if you have, a: the height, and b: the light for the correct amount of penetration. c: limits or desire to keep plant numbers down and probably many other reasons to boot.

I reckon we would have had that discussion sorted out in about 2 seconds flat had we all been sitting around a table having a few beers and smoking a few doobs, lol......communication by word is a very hard thing I find.

Right, back to my bong folks,

Peace to all,

DST
 

lordjin

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Hey Jin,

Howzit my bru!

I was waiting for you to give us a run down on the craby watsit thing in the video, but it just kept zizzing around and amusing your cat, I really wanted it to take a swipe at crabby thing, lol.

Anyway, here's my take on your scroggle.

What..... hold on, need to get name.....What, Bluberry said is actually kind of true for a scrog with certain strains. Here's how I think I know how: I ran a couple of cheese scrogs (not exo though), one which I filled out the screen, one which I trained a bit more in flower....biggest yielder, the filled out screen, because of the type of strain I felt. Now this goes against results that I have seen from some peoples scrogs who fill their screen only partially, then train through the stretch, I haven't seen any of Bluberry's grows (sorry), but my man Interga21 (hope you are cool wherever you are bru), his screens were always amazing and he started only with a partially filled out screen, then used stretch in flower to fill the rest. However, saying that I can see why, his strains had a certain vigour to them that enabled the partial screen fill, I know as I have grown some of his offspring genetics.
Now, onto OG's and the specific type that I feel are unsurpassed by few other strains, from what I see the Tahoe, Louie the whatever (cheeze knows the one, lol) my DOG, mwahahahaha(of course) and some other secret kush strains that I have seen like the Purple Kush from your neighbours. Now, they all grow a fairly stretchy plants, and I feel this comes down to the genetics from the kush valley. A friend of mine who lived out there said he had plants that would grow half way up his house, they have bloody stretchy genetics by all accounts. BUT, they all grow these amazing hard nuggets that, Jin, Cheeze, and many others lurkers will testify to(lol), but you get fairly large node spacing of course! This I feel on the kush strains doesn't really effect a good varieties yield, because as I have found the lower nugs are always solid and super tasty. I think the word, Fluff or, Popcorn is a misnomer when you are talking about top end kush strains, if grown correctly you will not get them.

A different strain may fill through the stretch then the vigour of the plant will grow fat buds across all sites, without stretching vertically, enably a more compact grow with many large colas. THIS IS not going to happen imo with these strains.

So I never vegged my DOG in the screen that I posted on the previous pages, and filled most of the screen in the stretch, and I have a screen of nugs, very nice indeed. But if I had vegged the whole screen, I would be looking at a whole screen of new plants effectively, each yielding hard nugs. So I think what I am trying to say is that filling the screen out is the most effective thing to do with this strain if you have, a: the height, and b: the light for the correct amount of penetration. c: limits or desire to keep plant numbers down and probably many other reasons to boot.

I reckon we would have had that discussion sorted out in about 2 seconds flat had we all been sitting around a table having a few beers and smoking a few doobs, lol......communication by word is a very hard thing I find.

Right, back to my bong folks,

Peace to all,

DST
Thanks for sharing that, D.

It's great info and I can tell both you and Cheeze know more about the topic than I do. Yeah, as Cheeze kept stressing that this Tahoe is a pretty old cut, I knew enough to know that it would stretch and have fairly good space between nodes. I calculated the possible veritical stretch correctly based on the strain and the vigor my box has produced in the past.

I don't mean to come off like an over-confident jerk sometimes... But when you've been growing this long, you just say what you say and you aren't afraid to show your dick in public. I know my system better than anyone. I built it. So based upon what I know, I sequenced my training perfectly. If I turned over my system to any one of you experienced growers, you would underestimate it at every turn and make mistakes until you get past its steep learning curve. That's just plain and simple truth. Then, after a few grows with my setup, you'll understand "Ah, so that's why Jin did that."

I may be getting a little vocal in my praise for myself, but that's only because I know I've grown the best crop I've ever grown out of 9 attempts.

I hope you'll all find it in your hearts to forgive my lack of humility. But humility never won wars or built empires.
 

lordjin

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So I smoked like waaaay too much Supreme OG last night.

I did a wake and bake this morning with it, and it totally re-activated all that shit I smoked last night.

Man, I'm so high. My gums are pulsating and I feel like I'm gonna give birth to an energy baby.

And my weed is better than this. Damn, can hardly wait to harvest... or at least until those little nugs I cut a few days ago dry...
 
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