Tahoe OG in Dual Monster Plant System (Scrog Edition)

daveroller

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I LOVE the way that you're distributing the branches across your screen. I think I can imagine how these babies might grow up during flower now, filling your whole room nice & evenly, not like that cluster of branches that you showed in your old Platinum/Blackberry photo. I think I understand the full value of SCROGing now, in the hands of a skilled grower. Thanks for the lesson, Jin! I'm really looking forward to seeing this through.

I guess for your next water change you'll need to use the shop vac, eh?
 

UnderCurrentDWC

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I call this Jin & juice


I put together a time laps of my current veg, 51 days from cutting to entering the flower room.... thought you'd like it.
[video=youtube;xzE-I3ad6_w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzE-I3ad6_w[/video]​
 

lordjin

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I LOVE the way that you're distributing the branches across your screen. I think I can imagine how these babies might grow up during flower now, filling your whole room nice & evenly, not like that cluster of branches that you showed in your old Platinum/Blackberry photo. I think I understand the full value of SCROGing now, in the hands of a skilled grower. Thanks for the lesson, Jin! I'm really looking forward to seeing this through.

I guess for your next water change you'll need to use the shop vac, eh?
Thanks, hoss.

Oh, right! The shop vac! In all this excitement, I completely forgot! Been watching 'the Walking Dead' on Netflix too.

I might get one, but I don't think I'll need it. We'll see at the end of the week.
 

323cheezy

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"Hey, Cheeze. These are babies alright. They need to be charmed and coaxed just like human girls. I'm taking it another week over my usual veg time to get 'em to beef up that screen. This is def a different kind of strain. Very interesting to work with. Just as I thought, very well suited for trellising. It's almost as if they sense the screen and know what to do."Lord jin

Dont under estimate them jin .... they know exactly what thyre doing...
Theyre on chill now ...but ive seen em in action... This mother wasnt kept based on vigor ...but pheno and characteristics...
Your dealing with a more "true og" like a larry or fire .... real sativa type...

I tend to like more the real "og kush " like louie and more similar to the diablo i have now ...
however diablo was a mix of bluebarry and another sativa but that typical real white looking og ... also platinuim is more the so cal master cross ....

Ive seen the tahoe in action last grow...and i already can see that your structure and leaves are exactly the same..almost a carbon copy of what i had.... You have way more leaf production and the low stress training is gonna benefit you ..surelly your buds will be phater ....

Id start flowering them at the normal time since they will become a little overzelous during the first weeks of flower...
 

lordjin

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"Hey, Cheeze. These are babies alright. They need to be charmed and coaxed just like human girls. I'm taking it another week over my usual veg time to get 'em to beef up that screen. This is def a different kind of strain. Very interesting to work with. Just as I thought, very well suited for trellising. It's almost as if they sense the screen and know what to do."Lord jin
Dont under estimate them jin .... they know exactly what thyre doing...
Theyre on chill now ...but ive seen em in action... This mother wasnt kept based on vigor ...but pheno and characteristics...
Your dealing with a more "true og" like a larry or fire .... real sativa type...

I tend to like more the real "og kush " like louie and more similar to the diablo i have now ...
however diablo was a mix of bluebarry and another sativa but that typical real white looking og ... also platinuim is more the so cal master cross ....

Ive seen the tahoe in action last grow...and i already can see that your structure and leaves are exactly the same..almost a carbon copy of what i had.... You have way more leaf production and the low stress training is gonna benefit you ..surelly your buds will be phater ....

Id start flowering them at the normal time since they will become a little overzelous during the first weeks of flower...
Okay. I get you. I won't be fooled by how chill they're growing now. I should probably just start flowering pretty soon then, and let it fill the rest of the screen in the first week of flower. If you say they're gonna go nuts, I think it's best for me to start flower while the screen is still pretty empty looking.
 

inhaleindica

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Okay. I get you. I won't be fooled by how chill they're growing now. I should probably just start flowering pretty soon then, and let it fill the rest of the screen in the first week of flower. If you say they're gonna go nuts, I think it's best for me to start flower while the screen is still pretty empty looking.

Yes, do flower them soon. My Tahoes that I got from Cali connect went from a ft to 3 feet in 1.5 weeks. I don't know about the clone form one. Are they the plant that swerve works on? However the purple stems seems like its not getting enough PK? The Tahoe I worked with always stayed green throughout the plant except for a few petioles. Just my opinion, They look great other than that and will fill out the cages in no time. I can't wait to see how they flower.
 

323cheezy

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By all means jin veg em out as long as youd like... live life on the edge....
Just remember the real stretch begins in the first weeks of flower.....
the purple stem are normal ... trust me... they only get more purple in time....
 

lordjin

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Yes, do flower them soon. My Tahoes that I got from Cali connect went from a ft to 3 feet in 1.5 weeks. I don't know about the clone form one. Are they the plant that swerve works on? However the purple stems seems like its not getting enough PK? The Tahoe I worked with always stayed green throughout the plant except for a few petioles. Just my opinion, They look great other than that and will fill out the cages in no time. I can't wait to see how they flower.
Okay, I'll flower at the end of this week just for you.

Yeah, purple is associated with cold weather grows and certain deficiencies, but it is also the inherent trait of certain strains (OGk included) You'll notice the Platinum OG plant is not nearly as purple and the Blackberry Kush plant isn't purple at all (See example photo from last update).

I do belive that is the case here with this tahoe... a strain trait, since the leaf health shows anything but deficiency. Have a look at my mature Diablo main trunks. This is 12-13 days into flower. They were pretty purple, but the Tahoe I'm growing is more so.
 

lordjin

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By all means jin veg em out as long as youd like... live life on the edge....
Just remember the real stretch begins in the first weeks of flower.....
the purple stem are normal ... trust me... they only get more purple in time....
Oh yeah. I know the purple is normal. See my above post. In fact with OG's the more purple I see, the happier I get.

Well I'll just keep posting pix of their progress.. Maybe you can suggest a good time to start 12/12. I'm always open to suggestions.
 

inhaleindica

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Okay, I'll flower at the end of this week just for you.

Yeah, purple is associated with cold weather grows and certain deficiencies, but it is also the inherent trait of certain strains (OGk included) You'll notice the Platinum OG plant is not nearly as purple and the Blackberry Kush plant isn't purple at all (See example photo from last update).

I do belive that is the case here with this tahoe... a strain trait, since the leaf health shows anything but deficiency. Have a look at my mature Diablo main trunks. This is 12-13 days into flower. They were pretty purple, but the Tahoe I'm growing is more so.
That is possible it is caused by cold. Keep up the good work.

Don't do it for me lol. Do it for yourself it all depends how you want the results. I think you should flower them when about half of the screen is filled an inch above it would be a good time.
 

lordjin

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That is possible it is caused by cold. Keep up the good work.

Don't do it for me lol. Do it for yourself it all depends how you want the results. I think you should flower them when about half of the screen is filled an inch above it would be a good time.
I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for the input.
 

Slivers

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I finally feel like I'm a de-virginized grower now that I'm scrogging. I gotta tell ya, this is awesome on so many different levels. There is so much strategy involved, that it really satisfies the obsessive tinkerer in all of us growers. I'm having great fun planning each tuck. See how each bend gives an optimum position to the smaller branch just underneath? And as the tip gets a little taller, I simply tuck into the next grid square. I'm having so much fun! :D

See the nute burn on the tip of that leaf? These girls are something else. I dialed it down to 600ppm when I got home, but after spotting that, I took it down to 510-520ppm. That is unheard of for this stage of growth in my experience. But that's what the plants are telling me! The upshot of that slight nute burn is that I know they're feeding at maximum. See everyone? This is the huge advantage of having the trimeter and auto-topper to precisely dial in your ppm depending on what the plants want. Complete and utter control of your plants... you can't beat it.

I was joking around with an old pro at another thread about how we obsessively stare at and mess with our grow areas. I was trying to act all cool, but when he admitted that he still stares at his plants like a noob, I fessed up and admitted that I do too. Scrogging adds just another layer to that obsessive behavior. Good thing I'm a seasoned veteran and so can contain my excitement. Yeah right... there I go again.

Wow, only 520ppm. Didn't you mention something about never exceeding 900ppm with these, Cheeze? I'm starting to believe you. They're pretty big already and I dare not exceed 550ppm at this point. Wild.


The smell isn't just getting stronger, it's changing. This is top notch shit. Not nearly the most monstrous I've ever seen in this here box, but I'm glad for that. I'll take extra long to veg out that screen before letting that orange monster light do its thing.

The screen definitely seems to be making them grow in a slower, more controlled way. Not like these monsters. Platinum on the right. Don't bother comparing to the plant on the left because that's a Blackberry Kush that's entirely different. But they were both out of control. I think Cheezy's clones look more refined even if less monstrous.

Y'see how that Plat on the right kinda looks similar to the Tahoe but not as purple?
I think it's pretty interesting how much of a different green they are individually. Mine seem to be a light green early on and then once they reach maturity they turn that dark green color as well. Looking good man ;)
 

lordjin

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I think it's pretty interesting how much of a different green they are individually. Mine seem to be a light green early on and then once they reach maturity they turn that dark green color as well. Looking good man ;)
That's because when they're little, they don't have enough root matter to photosynthesize.

That's entirely normal.

Thanks, Slivers!
 

lordjin

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Pre-tuck:


And after today's tuck job. This hurts me more than it hurts you, babies. It ain't pretty, but there's an important reason for doing it. I think we all know this.

Do these look a little out of focus to you? Oh well, too high to retake them.

And it's official... P2 is getting scrogged. Look at those perfect purple striped stems. She's a looker. And note the deeply defined middle veins on these leaves. Very distinct look.


Hey! Why didn't anyone mention to me that scrogging takes patience?

Those stalks are thickening nicely. These photos aren't just for you guys as it turns out. I'm finding more and more that they're a valuable observation tool as a grower.
 

lordjin

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I did it again. Sorry about that Cheeze. :D


On a brighter note, here's a little train recovery.


And turn that frown upside down. P2 is doing nicely.

Oh, btw, don't go writing home about it, but I think I got the ppm rise figured out. On a hunch, I turned the sprayers on continuously and sure enough, ppm falling. I'm not 100 percent sure yet, but I think the AN plus the Tea requires a more active feeding method. These plants are tricky alright.
 

lordjin

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The main tops on both plants were pushing too hard against the screen. To solve this problem, instead of barbarically decapitating them, I applied another tie. Check it out. As I said in an earlier post, I'm going to keep the main stalk down with strategic ties.


I can keep spreading them out like this until the cows come home or the screen gets full, whichever comes first.


Just look at the massive vegetation on the main top of P1. It was gettin' too powerful above the screen so I had to take drastic measures. The main stalk is already really tough to bend. It gave a lot of resistance so I taped it down real good.


The second tie on P2. Not so much a drastic bender but more a technique positioner.


And one last look at the main top of P1 before it rights itself. Now who in their right mind could chop something like that off? Not me. And I'm not even in my right mind half the time.

Edit: And one more time let me caution against doing such drastic things to your plants. If you're wondering why my photos pop so much, it's because of the 1000w light trapped in such a tight enclosure. It's also why I can train so savagely and not worry about shock.
 
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