Tahoe OG Kush Scrog in Dual Monster Plant System: Third Round with PO Tahoe

Bird Gymnastics

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Awesome man! I'm running some ebb and grows right now. Struggling with getting the roots to come out of the bottom but plants look robust! Kinda strange but I hope they start to take off. Honestly it seems like my soil plants are growing faster then hydro so I know something isn't clicking right. I idle them at about 3-500 for the first week then give them progressively stronger feedings. Do you use any root products? Or are you strictly just using sensi a + b?
 

lordjin

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flowamasta

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Hey, dudes. Love the topping suggestions. And believe it or not, I was actually about to alcohol my blades last night, but I read a comment from our good friend, DieselDog, at Green Gurlz. And I quote:

"Please don’t top those beauties… In the long run each time you cut a top is a waste of a cola. If you weren’t SCROGing i could understand but it will just result in unnecessary stress and lower yield. You’re better than that."

Now first off, I would like to the thank the good DieselDog for reading and taking part in Green Gurlz. And his comment came at a time when I was giving deep thought to a new method of increasing vigor and possibly yield. And since his comment is very consistent with the underpinning of my new theory, I'll thank him once again.

Now I realize one method isn't necessarily better than another, given case by case variance and all that, so let me note that I really did entertain the idea of cutting since I recognize it as a legit technique for increasing yield.


But what am I talking about? What's my new theory that's consistent with Diesel's comment? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

I know what you're thinking. I've finally smoked one bowl too many, right?

Probably. But the answer to this riddle can be found at Green Gurlz (later).



Tune in and find what the fuck I'm riddlin' about. Now I'm gonna take another hit and probably end up taking a much-deserved nap, but all will be revealed later when I wake up.
Beautiful plants Jin!!! I still don't think you should be scared of a little snip, i mean you get your hair cut right?? ;)

I gotta say though......' each time you cut a top is a waste of a cola ' ??????? ummm no. No it certainly is not.

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cONkey

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FLOWA!!!!!LMAO that has got to be one of the most awesome pictures i have ever seen! all those colas with the red numbers .... i want a print. that is cash baby.. get that copywrighted right now !!! i will trade you one of my drawings for that photo....deal?
 

AzCannaMan

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Beautiful plants Jin!!! I still don't think you should be scared of a little snip, i mean you get your hair cut right?? ;)

I gotta say though......' each time you cut a top is a waste of a cola ' ??????? ummm no. No it certainly is not.

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Flowa knows best! Do you think his monster plants would be where there with no topping? No, certainly not. Actually i'd be impossible to achieve what he does w/o topping.

I'd say if anything your wasting potential colas by not topping ;)
 

flowamasta

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FLOWA!!!!!LMAO that has got to be one of the most awesome pictures i have ever seen! all those colas with the red numbers .... i want a print. that is cash baby.. get that copywrighted right now !!! i will trade you one of my drawings for that photo....deal?
lol :) I actually don't remember who did that for me!! I remember saying in a thread i dont remember exactly how many tops i had, so someone counted them and labeled them for me LOL :) feel free to copy it!! The edit is not of original quality, but i'm sure i got the original on a USB key somewhere.
Glad you like it ;)

Flowa knows best! Do you think his monster plants would be where there with no topping? No, certainly not. Actually i'd be impossible to achieve what he does w/o topping.

I'd say if anything your wasting potential colas by not topping ;)
awwwww guys :oops: But it is true, there is no way i would get even 1 lb without topping, I have a mate who tries and tries, and simply refuses to top, he even states that he tops to shut me up, but you cant fool someone who has properly topped a plant, some say you cant some say you shouldn't. I'm here to say 'why talk about it??' DO IT. Reap the rewards ;) the way you scrog Jin would be a plus beneficial!!! i used alot of your alone skills to implement into my own, if you top yours your bottoms will come up and become mains, not strong bottoms, therfore you will end up with 'lets say' a broom of tips to sweep across your screen instead of balancing out technical octopus arms :) It will also shorten your node length come flowering time, as it doesn't 'slow growth' it simply transfers sugars and divides the growth, to give equal and balanced growth :)

time to ponder....... I'm like the guy in school who tried Ganja first and wanted everyone to see how good it was :p I couldn't listen to the teachers, I just wanted people to be high and happy
 

lordjin

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Beautiful plants Jin!!! I still don't think you should be scared of a little snip, i mean you get your hair cut right?? ;)

I gotta say though......' each time you cut a top is a waste of a cola ' ??????? ummm no. No it certainly is not.

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Great pic. I'm stealing it.

Also, I'm not trying to start some kind of top / no-top battle or anything. I just thought it was interesting how Diesel had a differing view.
 

AzCannaMan

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Subbed :clap: I'm running the same cut, still babies but I'm taking notes.... Keep em' green :bigjoint:
Congrads, it's a freaking amazing cut, I have it as well... Welcome to the Tahoe OG Kush club! It's a good club to be in lol

By the way, you should note topping them works well hahaha.......

:razz:
 

Noob187

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Congrads, it's a freaking amazing cut, I have it as well... Welcome to the Tahoe OG Kush club! It's a good club to be in lol

By the way, you should note topping them works well hahaha.......

:razz:
Thanks, I planned on putting up a trellis to support them after week 3 so the colas don't go flopping on the floor. :lol: Which is a current problem I'm having with Deep Sleep (Larry OGK x pre98 Bubba), after the calyxes started swelling the stalks started revealing their weakness and now the buds want to lean. I staked it and tied up the branches to try to keep them near the light. :wall: It's probably a must they get some kind of tomato cage or support netting to help support their colas near harvest time. :blsmoke:
 

TheGreenHornet

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awwwww guys :oops: But it is true, there is no way i would get even 1 lb without topping, I have a mate who tries and tries, and simply refuses to top, he even states that he tops to shut me up, but you cant fool someone who has properly topped a plant, some say you cant some say you shouldn't. I'm here to say 'why talk about it??' DO IT. Reap the rewards ;) the way you scrog Jin would be a plus beneficial!!! i used alot of your alone skills to implement into my own, if you top yours your bottoms will come up and become mains, not strong bottoms, therfore you will end up with 'lets say' a broom of tips to sweep across your screen instead of balancing out technical octopus arms :) It will also shorten your node length come flowering time, as it doesn't 'slow growth' it simply transfers sugars and divides the growth, to give equal and balanced growth :)

time to ponder....... I'm like the guy in school who tried Ganja first and wanted everyone to see how good it was :p I couldn't listen to the teachers, I just wanted people to be high and happy

how many times did you top that one - and what was your veg time? thats awesome canopy distribution..
 

AzCannaMan

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Thanks, I planned on putting up a trellis to support them after week 3 so the colas don't go flopping on the floor. :lol: Which is a current problem I'm having with Deep Sleep (Larry OGK x pre98 Bubba), after the calyxes started swelling the stalks started revealing their weakness and now the buds want to lean. I staked it and tied up the branches to try to keep them near the light. :wall: It's probably a must they get some kind of tomato cage or support netting to help support their colas near harvest time. :blsmoke:
Sweet I have the Deep Sleep too, how do you like it? I have some cloning right now but haven't run it out yet. The 3 cuts I have from them are the Tahoe OG, Chem D & Deep Sleep

I use cages on the Tahoe and it works great! Here are some of the ones I have in bloom right now,

Tahoe Og Day 50 Bloom





And here is a Chem D also at day 50 bloom for good measure



Cheers! :bigjoint:
 

Noob187

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Sweet I have the Deep Sleep too, how do you like it? I have some cloning right now but haven't run it out yet. The 3 cuts I have from them are the Tahoe OG, Chem D & Deep Sleep

I use cages on the Tahoe and it works great! Here are some of the ones I have in bloom right now,

Tahoe Og Day 50 Bloom

And here is a Chem D also at day 50 bloom for good measure

Cheers! :bigjoint:
Looks great dude :blsmoke:

I only know one other grower who's run it before and he was in love with her, its a low yield but connoisseur quality. I'm on my first run of her through flower right now and she smells pretty good, the calyxes start swelling up around week 5-6 I'll be harvesting her around new years.

So far I'm liking it, it is a challenge to clone in my experience, doubles in size during transition.

She a real heavy feeder in flower, takes a lot of nutes, prefers a calcium rich environment, best to train her while its young because the branches are weak, the most my bro could get out of her is about an elbow per 1kw.

He also told me that its best to dry her slowly with the fan leaf and everything still on it, then trim when dry, this makes the finished product much smellier. I tried it for myself on a few different harvests and have to agree with him, especially when the buds come out small, they'll dry too quickly if you aren't careful.

Peace :bigjoint:
 

lordjin

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Sweet I have the Deep Sleep too, how do you like it? I have some cloning right now but haven't run it out yet. The 3 cuts I have from them are the Tahoe OG, Chem D & Deep Sleep

I use cages on the Tahoe and it works great! Here are some of the ones I have in bloom right now,

Tahoe Og Day 50 Bloom





And here is a Chem D also at day 50 bloom for good measure



Cheers! :bigjoint:
Dude, I think you beat my trichs. Amazing. Green Gurlz. You need a better camera, though.
 

lordjin

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Here's the big plant recovered from her second train.

Lookin' strong.



The little one is coming along for the ride it seems.




Bonus: Louie XIII Bud Porn. 32 days of cure.



Shit's like cement.

Are you ready Cannabis Cup? Lol. Just kidding.
 

flowamasta

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Great pic. I'm stealing it.

Also, I'm not trying to start some kind of top / no-top battle or anything. I just thought it was interesting how Diesel had a differing view.
I agree, i am sorry that did rather come off smart assy, But my defenses went up the minute i seen that someone was saying something that they hadn't quite evaluated properly. Saying something without trying it first is one thing but to actually understand the science behind it is another. Every cannabis strain that i've seen loves a topping sativa or indica, indicas need alot less because of their already stocky nature, but sativas you can go hard on aaaalllll day long. imagine them in the wild, and some animal comes up and his favourite food happens to be purple haze hehe and he takes a few good mungs off some vegging tips...... the plant if not totally eaten ( not likely ) will respond with explosions of growth from wherever she was eaten from. You cannot kill the plants, nor take away any potency from what i can tell anyway!!!??? Yeah they can be a tiny bit stressed if you go madhouse and top all the tips. I do, but my plant is big and 2-3 nodes off each off the mains and splicing every other is just a little bite off the top by..... well a bird could do more damage. I don't even notice my plant whimper, stop growing or anything, she just goes mental, its a must have learning experience i say, if you want to grow more ganja. I constantly repay the guy that taught me to top properly. I couldn't thank him enough.

after, whats to lose?? either way you do a superb job :) and your plants love you

how many times did you top that one - and what was your veg time? thats awesome canopy distribution..
I top once at the very start, basically chopping the clone in half, then i wait around 3 weeks then i tip, top and carefully snip Every main tip. I vegged for 28 days with that girl. I cannot veg for longer than 30 days given my small given time to grow in ( rental 3 months inspections ) but thats plenty long enough for 2 toppings and 2 minor recoveries, this is in 100% perlite......

filthy Jin :p absolutely sticky filth :)

 

AzCannaMan

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Dude, I think you beat my trichs. Amazing. Green Gurlz. You need a better camera, though.
Thanks Jin, that means a lot coming from you! The girls are looking quite nice! I almost got a new camera on black Friday, ended up blowing all my extra $ on a 60" plasma with Blueray player and surround sound though lol

These are taken on my cell phone and emailed to myself so the quality certainly leaves much to be desired compared to your pimp status photography.
 

TheGreenHornet

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I top once at the very start, basically chopping the clone in half, then i wait around 3 weeks then i tip, top and carefully snip Every main tip. I vegged for 28 days with that girl. I cannot veg for longer than 30 days given my small given time to grow in ( rental 3 months inspections ) but thats plenty long enough for 2 toppings and 2 minor recoveries, this is in 100% perlite......
ahh, very nice. I love hempy buckets man, (especially perlite hempies). I might do modified hempies again at some point, and try to combine the aspects of DWC with it, (like putting one or two air rings in the bottom of the bucket) but its hard to stray from the DWC path now that i've got it dialed in. but shit, if you can pull a lb from an indica with a 28 day veg, in a hempy bucket, with a single 600w - then fuck man, i am going to have to do some serious thinking.

Idk if you use hempies but if your doing 100% perlite I figured you would be.
 
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