Tamjam's 2nd grow Snow White 250w

youngrich420

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damn those look nice! im gonna be there soon..

im buying a 250watt hps off craigslist today for 30$ theyve been 12/12 for 3 days i think??
 

tamjam69

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I know what you mean mate! My eldest has left home but still spends loads of time round here with her 5 month old daughter and we have 2 younger daughters still at home so theres not a lot of peace to have here either :-o I reckon thats why we have to smoke so much herb, helps keep the sanity! :weed:

Great pics and thanks for pointing out where the clones came from. Certainly the mutant is way ahead here too so I may have to re think which one I keep now as a mother! if I can I may take 2 cuttings from her when shes ready and keep one of those. can I see a tint of colour in those buds? Always nice when buds get that blue/purpleish tint to them.

Can understand why you're going back in the loft too. When the cold weather returns next winter have a think about a small electric oil filled rad up there, they are VERY safe and have a thermostat so you can set it on low and just hold those temps up slightly on a timer. I used mine for 3 years up there and its still working perfectly and its 5 years old now, best £30.00 I ever spent on my loft grow. Argos sell them. Dimplex I think it is. Will solve all your problems.

Have a good weekend down there :-) weathers lovely here, just been over the beach with the dog and its like a summers morning.

*edit* meant to add, those buds are looking GOOD!
hello MS i did write a big reply to you and chb lastnight but when i went in the shower the missus some how lost it all and i said fuck it if im writing all that again lol

im feeling tired so just a quick update but with lots of pics

the plants have been up in the loft for 2 days now with no sign of drooping :-P

the lights go on at 10pm til 10am so their dark period is in the day and the loft is around 24c :-P

will post some pics very shortly mate :weed:

wow.. just realized too that u said the mutant plant is the mother of the clones... Pheww!! Thats good man!! I cant gaurentee you that the clones will produce Poly-Ploid buds.. but there is a chance! Which would be AWESOME!! hope my post helped you out.. Im subbing.. DEFF. and +Rep for growing a nice Nirvana Strain... for taking some nice ass pictures... for having a poly-ploid bud as well... lol. theres a lot.. Good fuckin job!!

and u know whats really funny too.. in your 1st journal.. you started out with 5 CFL's.. and a 20 watt floro tube.. which is wat i started out with.. then u said u added another 5 CFL's.. soo u had a total of 10. adn the 20 watt floro tube.. adn as of now.. that is wat i have too. lol. mine White Widow has a total of 330 watts!! =) and is doing great!
wow chb thanks for that some great pics there mate, like i said to MS just a quick update today as im tired and will write a bit more tomorrow:-P

Maturesmoker has two clones from the mutant aswell and im hoping that his produce those poly ploid buds!!

both the main colas on my plant are poly ploid :-P

any way thanks for that great post you done very interesting!! heres some pics :-P
 

tamjam69

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first up is some shots of the poly ploids!!:bigjoint:







at every node she has 3 or 4 bud sites but mostly 4 :hump:





and heres to hoping yours do this MS and thanks again cbh for that great post
 

tamjam69

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and heres some randoms, oh and the two clones are doing well and have been chucked in with the big mammas!!!!!

cheers guys
 

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tamjam69

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damn those look nice! im gonna be there soon..

im buying a 250watt hps off craigslist today for 30$ theyve been 12/12 for 3 days i think??
hi rich sorry i didnt spot your post there dude!! craigslist? thats american isnt it?

any way mate good luck with the hps hope you can control it!! they do get pretty hot
 

Mogwai5

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looking niceeeee mate:) Going to have to put some pics of mine up soon, they're ridiculous they must be 1m tall and only really showing flowers now, so much for lowryders #2 lol Had to LST them yesterday, I say them one turned male :( Anyways too far gone and too long without smoke now to turn back :(/;)
 

maturesmoker

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Lovely shots there mate, the 'mutant' bud looks so typical of them :-) I've had probably just 4 or 5 of those in 12 years growing so they are pretty rare as said above but they pile on the weight in late flowering every time, so that's another THANK YOU I owe you ! (Slightly off subject I was thinking to myself the other day that I've probably seen just about the same number of or less of 'hermies' in that 12 year period, I can recall just 3 or 4! So they're rare too). I always describe the stems as like 'sticks of celery' :-) That pic shows it well. I just posted a pic of MsAngel the mutant SW clone you gifted me and you can see shes showing those early signs. Other mutant clone is not quite so mutated this stage but its early days.

Great shots, looking SO tasty :-)

'Poly ploids' it is then !
 

chb444220

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Hey man.. yea the pics look hreat! Yeaa my stems are the same way... fat and have 4 budsites at each node. Like MS said.. they pack on ALOT of weight! The pics I posted up of mine.. that bud is gonna weigh ALOT! its weighing down my whole plant.. I used some string.. adn tied it to the main stem... and its even pulling that whole main cola down a lil bit. lol. Should be harvesting in less than a week.. havent decided the exact date yet.. maybe today.. maybe next tuesday... or maybe a little everyday... lol we will see.

im glad to hear that one of the clones may have the poly ploid bud as well.. that would be awesome! that is a good trait to have.. soo if you can keep it around.. you should. =) more bud for you!
 

tamjam69

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looking niceeeee mate:) Going to have to put some pics of mine up soon, they're ridiculous they must be 1m tall and only really showing flowers now, so much for lowryders #2 lol Had to LST them yesterday, I say them one turned male :( Anyways too far gone and too long without smoke now to turn back :(/;)
hey mog how are you, thanks for the comments, thats a bummer about the plants mate but like you said to late to turn back now!!

post some pics mog its not like we think you dont know what your doing as your last plant was excellent mate:clap:

talk soon

What Poly ploids ?
Lovely shots there mate, the 'mutant' bud looks so typical of them :-) I've had probably just 4 or 5 of those in 12 years growing so they are pretty rare as said above but they pile on the weight in late flowering every time, so that's another THANK YOU I owe you ! (Slightly off subject I was thinking to myself the other day that I've probably seen just about the same number of or less of 'hermies' in that 12 year period, I can recall just 3 or 4! So they're rare too). I always describe the stems as like 'sticks of celery' :-) That pic shows it well. I just posted a pic of MsAngel the mutant SW clone you gifted me and you can see shes showing those early signs. Other mutant clone is not quite so mutated this stage but its early days.

Great shots, looking SO tasty :-)

'Poly ploids' it is then !
no sweat about the cuttings mate im really happy that i sent them and that they all rooted for you :-P

yep poly ploids it is mate!!! thanks for the comments, as for the mutant cuttings, the one i still have isnt showing no traits from mother.

cheers

Hey man.. yea the pics look hreat! Yeaa my stems are the same way... fat and have 4 budsites at each node. Like MS said.. they pack on ALOT of weight! The pics I posted up of mine.. that bud is gonna weigh ALOT! its weighing down my whole plant.. I used some string.. adn tied it to the main stem... and its even pulling that whole main cola down a lil bit. lol. Should be harvesting in less than a week.. havent decided the exact date yet.. maybe today.. maybe next tuesday... or maybe a little everyday... lol we will see.

im glad to hear that one of the clones may have the poly ploid bud as well.. that would be awesome! that is a good trait to have.. soo if you can keep it around.. you should. =) more bud for you!
yeah im pretty excited about this bud aswell lets hope it weights loads!! your pics and buds look great aswell

do you mind me asking what kind of camera you use?

im gonna reveg the mutant so will hopefully never loose those traits!

cheers chb
 

tamjam69

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hello again right i have been thinking and thinking and want to make my grow smaller!!

i have nearly made my way through the whole of v12xjs's pc grow thread ( cheers for showing me that before MS ) and its made me want to switch back to cfl's and go more micro stylee.

i have not found growing with this hps any better than my last grow using cfl's!!!!

all me and the missus smoke is 3.5g every 1.5 - 2 weeks so around 0.35g a day which i could pull from a pc quite easlily using the skills i have picked up over the last two grows.

the three snow whites will be left to finish under the hps whilst i get my NEW cab under way lol

my three new cfl's turned up today



and this is what will be made into a flowering cab and a veg cab, i want to keep all this small as possible as i get a little paronoid about being caught and i know the smaller it is the better when the police are involve!!



i will get dimensions of it tomorrow but each section is alot bigger then a pc case so it should be easy!!

any thoughts on what i should do?

either make it in to one bigger box by removing the devider and just have it as a continuous 12/12

have two seperate flowering boxes

or have a flowering cab and a mother/veg/clone chamber?



i would use two 45w blues and as many 23w reds in the flowering cab as i can control! and one 45w blue in the mother/veg/clone chamber

i will also use some 120mm pc fans as they will be alot quieter then the toilet fans, but i may test how loud just one is first.

cheers guys any help would be great
 

spindles

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Nice to see some green lamp product on here among UK growers. Had a fair number of bulbs from them now and they are pretty damn fine when things go wrong, treat the customer right and all that malarkey.

I'm using their 65w, 85w and 250w bulbs right now. A mate who grows under HPS is well impressed so far and we will be comparing results and progress as I develope my setup and he considers my results before rejigging his. I've been on 12/12 for 18 days (about 10-12 days since buds showed) and they are starting to look nice.

I've tried toilet fans and currently have a 130mm pc fan circulating in my veg box and it is essentially silent, tomorrow I'm cutting up coathangers to build a little frame to hold it and make it more easily directional. If you get one of those multi-adapters (wilko, poundstretchers, etc) you can also switch voltage up or down to set a speed you are happy with, quite a nice cheap little device. Not sure they would push the air needed to vent personally, though, but obviously I haven't really experimented with that yet. I have a mate setting up a grow in a similar space to yourself and I'm sure he can learn a lot from reading this (which he probably is right now;))
 

gumball

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thats awesome tamjam! v12 is turning everyone! I am even thinking of starting his system!

i think you should leave the divider and do the flower cab on one side, and the mom/veg/clone cab.

but then you might stick yourself with one strain over an over, so a different seed thrown in every now in again will break up the same smoke every now and again. good luck with it, looks to be a nice grow box.
 

gumball

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oh, the 120mm pc fans are a bit louder than you may think. go to newegg.com, they will list a plethora and you can sort by CFM, and decibels, but go to the manufacturers site and make sure the spec's are accurately listed.

i have a 120mm which is 19db-A and 70 CFM. i can barely hear it outside of the box, but my wife says she cant hear it. I think i hear it because I know its there and all. but it also aint enough to push through 2 or 3 layers of carbon filter material.

i have heard folks say the 6 inch fans are quiter than the 120mm (4.75 inch). i dont know how big or small your system can handle.

good luck with it
 

tamjam69

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will reply to you all in a bit, but for now just a quick update on whats happened lol :blsmoke: i will also update the ladys in a bit :mrgreen:

ok im not totally skint but could not bring my self to buy any more weed!! i had smoked all of my last 8th so i decided i would chop the two tops of the most ready plant, it looks about just as ready as my ak was when that got chopped, its far from ready but its some smoke and should keep me going for atleast a week then i will chop the rest.

then prob 2 weeks for the mutant and 3 weeks for the more indica plant, might be less then that but i will leave them long as possible. i really do enjoy a heady high but will leave the indica plant as long as possibe so i got some smoke to knock me out

the new grow cab ( again lol ) should be ready in the next week so the cuttings will go in the new flowering cab.

any way heres a couple pics and will do a update and reply later





 

chb444220

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hey man.. nice lookin samples u got there.. im STILL in the process of harvesting.. this shits takin FOREVER!! lol

but the camera im using isnt really anything special.. its a Sanyo S750 with 3x optical zoom and 7.1 Megapixels.. i 4got how much it is.. i know its kinda cheap tho.. but it takes decent pics.. its got Macro ( the lil flower button) and thats why it takes nice closeups. =)

Let us know how the sample buds are once theyre dried!! =D
 

maturesmoker

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Looking forward to seeing what you're up to now mate :-) It takes time to find a set up that you're happy with and get things dialled in. Those new bulbs look good, could you PM me the supplier please when you get a chance? cheers. Shame you had to cut that bud early but I did the same with my mazar last time and it still gets you well stoned with more buzz than a later cut, but the downside is you lose that weight that packs on as the buds ripen right off and the calyx pile up. I rarely have the luxury of reaching that stage!

Hows the short bushy one going? I bet she makes up for lost time as she finishes :-) Her 2 clones are so tight, could be perfect for a small cab grow if she finishes well?

Look forward to the next update.

Btw, V12 is now using a new lamp in there and the results seem to be very good, have you seen his latest updates? The Violator Kush is like balls of bud with amazing foxtailing!!! I've been following him for over a year and what he does in that case never fails to amaze me but hes got it very well worked out.

Good luck mate.
 

tamjam69

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im sorry guys but im fookin knackered and really dont want to type:wall: i done a 20 mile bike ride and 3 hour walk at the beach with the dogs come home had 2 spliffs of the SW which is a very nice high but not very strong as it was chopped very early but i would say is the perfect day time smoke and then drank our bottle of blossom hill yum yum, so im looking forward to going bed and having an early night

the buds that i cut should last me two weeks so as soon as i run out i will chop the rest of the plant which will mean the mutant and the other will have all the time they need :bigjoint: they're gonna swell big time and should give me a descent yield.

any way heres a few pics ( i promise to reply tomorrow to you all ;-) )

first up is the plant that got beheaded !!! and is gonna keep me supplied so the other two ladys can finish properly



 

tamjam69

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next up is the mutant! im telling you now this bitch is fattening up very quickly and is putting on a lot of weight!!

here she is :mrgreen:











 
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