Tap bits and tapping

Rahz

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Thought the topic might merit it's own thread. @Positivity might have some things to ad.

I started out lubricating with propylene glycol (e-cig juice). Better than nothing. I've tried WD-40 which is claimed to be great for aluminum. Works okay. The best household product is probably cooking oil. If you want to get serious with it buy some thread cutting oil at the hardware store. It's called thread cutting oil for a reason.

Since we're working with aluminum we don't need the absolute hardest tap material. High speed steel is perfect for aluminum and more durable than the high carbon versions.

The cutting edge is just the tapered part of the tip. The rest of the spiral is just a guide to keep things straight. This is worth considering when choosing a tap since it comes in 3 versions, tapered, plug and bottoming. The tapered tap offers the largest cutting edge while the bottoming tap has a much smaller cutting surface. A bottoming tap is useful when working in shallow material when the hole doesn't go all the way through. It allows you to get threads all the way to the bottom of the pilot hole. The plug is in-between. Unless there are special needs always choose the tapered version since it's larger cutting edge will keep it in shape longer, as well as make it easier to start the tap straight.

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With the right tap and oil it's possible to go straight through a proper size pilot hole without ever backing out. I was down to about 15 seconds per hole with 20 turns each, eventually broke the bit. I was getting sloppy and putting uneven pressure on the handle. You can do everything right and still break a bit by putting sideways pressure on it.

I have some interest in using a drill. I suspect in a professional capacity tapping is done with specialized milling machines or drills that have coordination between the spin speed and plate/shaft movement. A drill press is unsuitable for this purpose. An electric hand drill can get the job done but it's difficult to keep the drill at a low enough speed to count the revolutions. If you're tapping straight through and don't need to count then this is a great option. I want to try a pneumatic drill since it's much easier to keep at low speed and count the revolutions, but it may be that the sudden force would be bad for the bit... and if the trigger is accidentally squeezed too hard the bit's probably a goner.
 
Heres a youtube vid on it. They skip the drilling part unfortunately. Just set a starting point for the drill bit with a hammer and nail or better a auto center punch.
Pretty hard to not go straight in aluminum. Try drilling a 45* in a piece of metal..lol. Much easier to go straight down.

 
definitely worthwhile getting a "good" tap set. so far haven't broken a tap yet, and I paid up front for a really nice metric tap set.
and tap magic for aluminum.

I drill hand held slow speeds with a cheapo black decker portable drill and go SLOW.
the drill bit and tap are reserved for soft metals like aluminum and copper.
 
Thought the topic might merit it's own thread. @Positivity might have some things to ad.

I started out lubricating with propylene glycol (e-cig juice). Better than nothing. I've tried WD-40 which is claimed to be great for aluminum. Works okay. The best household product is probably cooking oil. If you want to get serious with it buy some thread cutting oil at the hardware store. It's called thread cutting oil for a reason.

Since we're working with aluminum we don't need the absolute hardest tap material. High speed steel is perfect for aluminum and more durable than the high carbon versions.

The cutting edge is just the tapered part of the tip. The rest of the spiral is just a guide to keep things straight. This is worth considering when choosing a tap since it comes in 3 versions, tapered, plug and bottoming. The tapered tap offers the largest cutting edge while the bottoming tap has a much smaller cutting surface. A bottoming tap is useful when working in shallow material when the hole doesn't go all the way through. It allows you to get threads all the way to the bottom of the pilot hole. The plug is in-between. Unless there are special needs always choose the tapered version since it's larger cutting edge will keep it in shape longer, as well as make it easier to start the tap straight.

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With the right tap and oil it's possible to go straight through a proper size pilot hole without ever backing out. I was down to about 15 seconds per hole with 20 turns each, eventually broke the bit. I was getting sloppy and putting uneven pressure on the handle. You can do everything right and still break a bit by putting sideways pressure on it.

I have some interest in using a drill. I suspect in a professional capacity tapping is done with specialized milling machines or drills that have coordination between the spin speed and plate/shaft movement. A drill press is unsuitable for this purpose. An electric hand drill can get the job done but it's difficult to keep the drill at a low enough speed to count the revolutions. If you're tapping straight through and don't need to count then this is a great option. I want to try a pneumatic drill since it's much easier to keep at low speed and count the revolutions, but it may be that the sudden force would be bad for the bit... and if the trigger is accidentally squeezed too hard the bit's probably a goner.

Don't forget to chamfer your holes

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I have some interest in using a drill. I suspect in a professional capacity tapping is done with specialized milling machines or drills that have coordination between the spin speed and plate/shaft movement. A drill press is unsuitable for this purpose. An electric hand drill can get the job done but it's difficult to keep the drill at a low enough speed to count the revolutions. If you're tapping straight through and don't need to count then this is a great option. I want to try a pneumatic drill since it's much easier to keep at low speed and count the revolutions, but it may be that the sudden force would be bad for the bit... and if the trigger is accidentally squeezed too hard the bit's probably a goner.

If the drill has a slip clutch, it becomes a piece of cake. I've never broken a tap with my dewalt or ryobi drills, but I did break a 6-32 tap into a steel hole at work with a black and decker drill. I think the slip clutch on black and decker must have been shit, or the tap was shit (or both)... I use wd40 for cutting aluminum.
 
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If your drilling aluminum it should be at a fairly fast speed, probably over 2000rpm, especially if the bit diameter is 1/8" [3mm] or less.

Equations for drilling speed are everywhere. I believe there are some posted in the 1st tapping thread....[Can we just continue that one?]

A year old thread is already obsolete?
 
I had forgotten about it, that's what I suggested a sticky thread where people can post links to other helpful threads. It would help keep all that information easily accessible and easy to stumble into for new members.
 
I had forgotten about it, that's what I suggested a sticky thread where people can post links to other helpful threads. It would help keep all that information easily accessible and easy to stumble into for new members.


I missed that earlier entry @Rahz, forgive the tone please.....I would suggest sending a PM to the mod..only way it gets done around here.....if enough members petion for it, it will happen....Unless you have some mod privileges for Stickying! :) :leaf:
 
I had forgotten about it, that's what I suggested a sticky thread where people can post links to other helpful threads. It would help keep all that information easily accessible and easy to stumble into for new members.

What is your proposal Rahz? She is willing to listen and we have Sunni's ear, let's get it right......
 
I guess the thread starter would suggest keeping it clean, only replying with a link and description. It would be specific to DIY so no grow logs or things of that nature, but builds would be welcome along with topic specific threads such as All things Vero, far red thread, the original tapping thread, spreadsheet thread etc.

It might be better to have a main post with links there but it would be worth it to allow anyone to contribute and see how it works out.
 
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