Tasteless Cannabutter / Edibles

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2com

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Hey people.

I'm looking for methods to remove (or not get in the first place) the terribly off-putting flavor that comes from some aspect of the plant material, when making cannabutter/oil from plant material (flower, but even 'greenish' scissor or finger hash). The flavor is so disgusting. I've masked it before with chocolate or something. Chlorophyll, and/or whatever else it is.

Years ago, I came across this "jeff the 420 chef" guy and he had, and shared, *part* of his method for removing the nasty taste. I have to re-visit, but I was basically blanching the flower first, I think.

I'm hoping some people here have some methods for making clean, as close to tasteless, cannabis oil/butter, and they're willing to share them. I have some people who'd benefit greatly from edibles versus inhalation - including myself I think.

Thanks for any help or direction.
 
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2com

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DarkWeb said:
Wash the butter. Or use bubble hash instead of flower
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Yea, bubble is gonna be my fall back. If by wash you mean, re-melt in water, to clean it up a bit, I've done that before. Doesn't do very much for taste from my experience.
 
shredder4

shredder4

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2com said:
Hey people.

I'm looking for methods to remove (or not get in the first place) the terribly off-putting flavor that comes from some aspect of the plant material, when making cannabutter/oil from plant material (flower, but even 'greenish' scissor or finger hash). The flavor is so disgusting. I've masked it before with chocolate or something. Chlorophyll, and/or whatever else it is.

Years ago, I came across this "jeff the 420 chef" guy and he had, and shared, *part* of his method for removing the nasty taste. I have to re-visit, but I was basically blanching the flower first, I think.

I'm hoping some people here have some methods for making clean, as close to tasteless, cannabis oil/butter, and they're willing to share them. I have some people who'd benefit greatly from edibles versus inhalation - including myself I think.

Thanks for any help or direction.
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If your using buds, a gentle wash in room temperature water will help. Heating the water could melt the oil glands, so don't heat it, ice cold can break off tricombs, so no ice, unless your making bubble hash. (Google water curing or washing buds or similar)) the water helps because chlorophyll is water soluble, plus any dirt, pollen, or whatever stuck to the buds.

Use dry cured buds/trim.

Things like chocolate and orange oil help hide the taste. But concentrates are better to work with. Basically a lot of the bad taste other than chlorophyll are terpenes. And you want terpenes in edibles, at least I do, but the terpenes from weed don't taste good, but really it's the effects that count. After a white it grows on you.

Or if it's that big of deal, make canna capsules. I can get up to 50mg THC in size 00 gel capsules. It's the normal suppliment size, not a horse pill.

Mix decarbed, ground to powder weed with a little lecithin, coconut oil and mix with gentle heat, then fill the capsules. No taste what so ever.
 
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XtraGood

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"QWET cannabis oil extraction involves freezing cannabis and [food grade] ethanol before combining them to “wash” and harvest the cannabinoids and terpenes from the cannabis plant to craft a concentrate containing the maximum amount of cannabinoids and terpens and minimum amount of undesirable components like fats, lipids, and chlorophyll."
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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2com said:
Yea, bubble is gonna be my fall back. If by wash you mean, re-melt in water, to clean it up a bit, I've done that before. Doesn't do very much for taste from my experience.
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Washing your butter and freezing till butter gets solid is easy and can be done several times till there is very little residual weed flavor
The potency remains too
 
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2com

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XtraGood said:
"QWET cannabis oil extraction involves freezing cannabis and [food grade] ethanol before combining them to “wash” and harvest the cannabinoids and terpenes from the cannabis plant to craft a concentrate containing the maximum amount of cannabinoids and terpens and minimum amount of undesirable components like fats, lipids, and chlorophyll."
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Trying to avoid solvents (other than water).
Edit: Thank you for the suggestion, though.
 
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2com

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I'm considering an Ardent FX (or nova)... But if there's a good quality convection toaster oven for a similar price, I might go for that - hah!
 
Hobbes

Hobbes

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Refine your Cannabutter.

After you make your Cannabutter (by whatever method):

1. Bring a pot of water to a good boil and reduce heat to simmer.
2. Put all of your butter in the water, as soon as it's melted turn off the heat.
3. Stir for 15 minutes, taking the floating butter to the bottom of the water, stirring in a top to bottom circular motion.
4. Put the pot in the fridge (on a pad so the fridge doesn't melt) until the butter hardens, then put the pot into the freezer for a few minutes to make it more solid. (for ease of extraction)
5. Use a sharp knife tip to cut the butter from around the outside of the pot. Lift out the Cannabutter disk, let the water drip off.

Your butter, or oil, will have bonded with the cannaboids so when you put the butter in hot water the water soluble terpenes, chlorophyll and plant matter will go into solution with the water and the Cannabutter will float above the foul mix. You will have fantastic butter, like you made it from honey oil.

I started refining all of my butter after making Lava Butter from Volcano dregs, simple and makes eating canna-foods a whole new experience.

Refine Your Cannabuter: Better Taste, Simple

. Refine your Cannabutter. After you make your Cannabutter (by whatever method): 1. Bring a pot of water to a good boil and reduce heat to simmer. 2. Put all of your butter in the water, as soon as it's melted turn off the heat. 3. Stir for 15 minutes, taking the floating butter to the...
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2com

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Hobbes said:
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Refine your Cannabutter.

After you make your Cannabutter (by whatever method):

1. Bring a pot of water to a good boil and reduce heat to simmer.
2. Put all of your butter in the water, as soon as it's melted turn off the heat.
3. Stir for 15 minutes, taking the floating butter to the bottom of the water, stirring in a top to bottom circular motion.
4. Put the pot in the fridge (on a pad so the fridge doesn't melt) until the butter hardens, then put the pot into the freezer for a few minutes to make it more solid. (for ease of extraction)
5. Use a sharp knife tip to cut the butter from around the outside of the pot. Lift out the Cannabutter disk, let the water drip off.

Your butter, or oil, will have bonded with the cannaboids so when you put the butter in hot water the water soluble terpenes, chlorophyll and plant matter will go into solution with the water and the Cannabutter will float above the foul mix. You will have fantastic butter, like you made it from honey oil.

I started refining all of my butter after making Lava Butter from Volcano dregs, simple and makes eating canna-foods a whole new experience.

Refine Your Cannabuter: Better Taste, Simple

. Refine your Cannabutter. After you make your Cannabutter (by whatever method): 1. Bring a pot of water to a good boil and reduce heat to simmer. 2. Put all of your butter in the water, as soon as it's melted turn off the heat. 3. Stir for 15 minutes, taking the floating butter to the...
www.rollitup.org

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bongsmilie

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Thanks dude.
This is what I do with already made oil/butter, or have in the past. It definitely works, at least somewhat. I tried it with some bad tasting scissor hash and it didn't do...enough.

Thanks for the link, I'll check it out.

Edit: By the way, when I made cannabutter in the past I used the water method to actually make the butter, so I think it was decent to start. But I didn't clean it again back then.
 
CatHedral

CatHedral

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The only answer is to teach your plants a higher bar for humor. That way a tasteless moment won’t (very bad word) the whole batch.
 
DarkWeb

DarkWeb

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2com said:
Thanks dude.
This is what I do with already made oil/butter, or have in the past. It definitely works, at least somewhat. I tried it with some bad tasting scissor hash and it didn't do...enough.

Thanks for the link, I'll check it out.

Edit: By the way, when I made cannabutter in the past I used the water method to actually make the butter, so I think it was decent to start. But I didn't clean it again back then.
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You can clean it more than once or twice if the flavor is still noticeable. Also letting it sit in water and changing that water will pull off chlorophyll.
 
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2com

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By the way, I think I found one of the more detailed videos of jeff420chef, where he may have given his full method. It's easier to find on invidious than youtube.
 
stale

stale

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In general, cannabinoids are hydrophobic and most plant material is hydrophilic. You want to minimize the water content either in your solvent or infusion medium.

Butter is made up of 60% oil and 40% water. That water is pulling in the grassy assy taste from the weed. If you clarify the butter first (essentially ghee), or use Coconut Oil instead - those have a 90+% oil content and will pull in less plant material.

For solvent methods - I really like the QWET method with 100% ethanol.
 
Dank Bongula

Dank Bongula

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I do not use water, just butter, a tblspn of honey and weed in a crockpot and slow cook it for like 5hours. The resulting cannabutter smells/tastes slightly sweet.
 
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2com

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stale said:
In general, cannabinoids are hydrophobic and most plant material is hydrophilic. You want to minimize the water content either in your solvent or infusion medium.

Butter is made up of 60% oil and 40% water. That water is pulling in the grassy assy taste from the weed. If you clarify the butter first (essentially ghee), or use Coconut Oil instead - those have a 90+% oil content and will pull in less plant material.

For solvent methods - I really like the QWET method with 100% ethanol.
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Yea, clarified butter if using butter for sure.
Coconut oil has a taste that I'm really tired off.

Does anyone know if MCT oil has that same coconut flavor or is it almost gone from whatever processing?

I probably will no longer be using plant material.
 
Milky Weed

Milky Weed

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2com said:
Yea, clarified butter if using butter for sure.
Coconut oil has a taste that I'm really tired off.

Does anyone know if MCT oil has that same coconut flavor or is it almost gone from whatever processing?

I probably will no longer be using plant material.
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Mct is flavorless, you can get refined coconut oil it has less flavor. I found I can only get my edibles to taste good if I use concentrate. I love putting rosin into edibles. They are special.

Another trick to avoiding grass taste when infusing flower, don’t break up the buds so much, and don’t grind it up. It really helps.
 
shredder4

shredder4

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Milky Weed said:
Mct is flavorless, you can get refined coconut oil it has less flavor. I found I can only get my edibles to taste good if I use concentrate. I love putting rosin into edibles. They are special.
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I use mostly concentrates in food type edibles and just use buds in capsules where there is no taste. I agree on the mct oil, along with flavorless it seems to mute the weed taste. But it's not a cooking oil so it doesn't take much heat. And you can flavor it, I like a small amount of sweet orange oil in an mct oil infusion.
I use 1 drop for 10-12 doses, so very little but it does help hide the weed taste plus sweet orange oil has more limonene than lemon oil. Limonene is a terpene known for energy and uplifting effects.
 
Milky Weed

Milky Weed

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shredder4 said:
I use mostly concentrates in food type edibles and just use buds in capsules where there is no taste. I agree on the mct oil, along with flavorless it seems to mute the weed taste. But it's not a cooking oil so it doesn't take much heat. And you can flavor it, I like a small amount of sweet orange oil in an mct oil infusion.
I use 1 drop for 10-12 doses, so very little but it does help hide the weed taste plus sweet orange oil has more limonene than lemon oil. Limonene is a terpene known for energy and uplifting effects.
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Funny that you mention orange, I make candy with orange Oil flavoring, the two mix spectacularly. Skunk Orange.
 
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