Tesla New Model Unveil...

doublejj

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rkymtnman

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Tesla opening an “old-school drive-in, roller skates and rock restaurant at one of the new supercharger locations in Los Angeles?”
damn, that mo-fo is always one step ahead of me.
how about a tesla drive in movie theater???
plug in and catch a flix with the family.
 

rkymtnman

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And we didn't turn to kerosene because we ran out of whales. We did it because the light was better. We will turn to EV's when the majority of folks think they are better than what came before.
IMO it's a race to use up all the fossil fuels in the world. iv'e been to the middle east: without oil they are just a large a sandbox. then it becomes a battle of the superpowers again. in my lifetime??? nope.
 

injinji

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Tesla opening an “old-school drive-in, roller skates and rock restaurant at one of the new supercharger locations in Los Angeles?”
There is going to have to be some smart folks work out what kind of stores these charge stations can maintain. 20 minutes is a long fillup. Maybe fast food or an arcade.
 

injinji

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IMO it's a race to use up all the fossil fuels in the world. iv'e been to the middle east: without oil they are just a large a sandbox. then it becomes a battle of the superpowers again. in my lifetime??? nope.
Change is hard. Oil is working now, so it will continue to be the leading fuel for the next 20-30 years. Unless we move to tax levels we reserve for the poor, (lottery, beer and cigarettes) the change will be slow. If we were to slap 100% tax on all ICV's, sales of EV's would take off.

And I've been saying for 20-30 years that oil is not going to run out anytime soon. We are getting better at finding and pumping it.
 

doublejj

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Change is hard. Oil is working now, so it will continue to be the leading fuel for the next 20-30 years. Unless we move to tax levels we reserve for the poor, (lottery, beer and cigarettes) the change will be slow. If we were to slap 100% tax on all ICV's, sales of EV's would take off.

And I've been saying for 20-30 years that oil is not going to run out anytime soon. We are getting better at finding and pumping it.
if we quit subsidizing fossil fuel, EV's would be the only choice.
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mooray

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Change is hard. Oil is working now, so it will continue to be the leading fuel for the next 20-30 years. Unless we move to tax levels we reserve for the poor, (lottery, beer and cigarettes) the change will be slow. If we were to slap 100% tax on all ICV's, sales of EV's would take off.

And I've been saying for 20-30 years that oil is not going to run out anytime soon. We are getting better at finding and pumping it.
Canada tar sands and US fracking get me spun up real quick. If it involves humans and removing materials buried underground, there's a 100% chance it's going to fuck up the environment.
 

The Dankstar

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Tesla is going to explode soon. Perfect time to get in right now. Cyber trucks will be pumping soon and model Y's at the new factories they are building. They will tie all the cars together with Starlink and rule FSD. I am super long tesla.
 

TacoMac

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the low cost of $10 for a fillup might ease the pain of 20min wait
Not when a fillup is only 20 dollars, takes only 3 minutes and gives you 400 miles of travel.

Time is money. People will pay 30 dollars to watch a new movie rather than wait to watch it for free.
 

Budley Doright

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Canada tar sands and US fracking get me spun up real quick. If it involves humans and removing materials buried underground, there's a 100% chance it's going to fuck up the environment.
Not to mention the 1000’s of abandoned wells that pepper the land that corporations walked away from. If the true cost of all the shit it causes was added there would be a huge interest in cleaner fuels.
 

Grandpapy

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Not to mention the 1000’s of abandoned wells that pepper the land that corporations walked away from. If the true cost of all the shit it causes was added there would be a huge interest in cleaner fuels.

If you cant see it, it isn't there.

Dilution is the solution according to Big Oil.

https://www.fractracker.org/2019/03/failing-abandoned-wells/

EPA estimates that as of 2016 there were 3.12 million abandoned wells in the U.S. and 69% of them were left unplugged.

 
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guitarguy10

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Maybe one of you Elon fanboys can tell me what's so special about him that makes him any different then all of the other Billionaires that everyone thinks are evil. It's like people think he builds these cars or rockets himself and doesn't partner with in an expert in the field to do it for him (and then take the credit).

Also how are electric vehicles going to help us combat climate change when the electricity being generated to power them is still being generated by coal, oil and gas burning power stations. We're just moving the goal posts from the gas station to the arguably more polluting power station.

Sorry i'm in a cranky mood today, but I also don't like Elon Musk, he's just another one of the glorified Billionaires, just as evil if not more.
 

TacoMac

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Also how are electric vehicles going to help us combat climate change when the electricity being generated to power them is still being generated by coal, oil and gas burning power stations. We're just moving the goal posts from the gas station to the arguably more polluting power station.
That's it in a nutshell.

Renewables aren't powerful enough to be relied on for charging cars. They simply don't produce the power. Well, wind does, but that's about it and it's not consistent.

If we don't start biting the bullet and embracing nuclear salt reactors there's really no hope at all of offsetting our carbon emissions. None at all.

Solar is right out. At best, it's an augmentation for lighting and other light duty power usage. It would take an entire acre of solar panels a day and a half to bring the typical electrical car to full charge. They're THAT electrically thirsty.
 
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