TGA By Others

Its kinda famous :)
 

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Whoese there?
Jack the Ripper Thats who!
 

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A while yet
 

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It would almost seem at times at TGA we just cross this with that and the Dank ensues. Its not at all like that and I’d like to elaborate for you as we look at JTR one of the creations made using some of the knowledge we picked up. That is what this story is about, all the steps that happened to get us to JCf1 X Space Queen. WE have to travel back in time to Jacks Cleaner Blueberry in order to understand what I am on about here. When we found Jacks Cleaner I was not interested in Breeding I was learning everything I could about growing from people I looked up to like Vic High, Nesta and of course DJ Short. I was growing mainly for commercial yields at the time but I guess looking back I always leaned to the smaller more resinated plants. I grew strains like Jacks Cleaner, Killer Queen, Hash Plant, Super Skunk, California Orange, Master Kush and various strains from friends and people I met along the way. I had not met Apollo-13 or Brothers Grimm yet although they were around I viewed them just like me as young and still learning. I traveled to Amsterdam and picked up some Blueberry seeds after smoking a really nice bud at a shop in Amsterdam, I remember thinking man this taste is awesome I wish it was half as potent as Jacks Cleaner. You can see where I am going here right? I had a pack of Blueberry at home I got from Vic and since his Killer Queen was second to my JC to me and the Blueberry seeds came at the same time how could I go wrong. I grew them out and got a few nice females but all had small mutations like whorled leaves or weird leaf formations. Surprizingly one male looked exceptional and I thought at the time that “Vigor” was good so the fact he was huge, with massive fan leaves and thumb size stems was a good thing. The heavy purpling in his stems was really all I needed to see and off we went and I made JCB or as she became known in small circles Batgirl. Now at the time I was really impressed with the results because a few of the females we found we exceptional and on more than one occasion I had serious stoners passed on my couch after a session of JCB. Time passed and I created both JCbx and Dannyboy as well as Conquistador and Astroqueen. Apollo-13 and Space Queen became my favorite medicines and I had the opportunity to run a pack of JCB that BOG sent me after I cleared all my legal problems. Say what ya want about BOG the guy had my back and that’s all I care about. I had already created Jack the Ripper and when I ran the two strains side by side I knew I had created something truly special in the JTR
JCB was nice but it had so much variation it would be hard to really call it a strain
JCbx was extremely potent but I had not learned about recessive drug traits and again I choose the male based on Vigor
JTR was bred with a male selected for one thing, Drug traits that IMO lie in the smaller non mutated males. There almost easy to spot now that I figured out the clues but I will tell you they are elusive.
 

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Jack the Ripper
Jacks Cleaner P1 X Space Queen
High Times Top Ten list 2006
Featured in the Big Book of Buds 3 Page 86,87,88,89
Oregon harvest Cup 1st Place

Jack the Ripper is well named because it is absolutely killer weed. A true 8 week Sativa Haze the first thing growers notice is the incredible lemon smell and heavy resin production. It has been described by UK growers as the best 8 week haze ever produced.
This plant will produce triangle shaped spear buds that pretty much stopped active calyx growth early and produced copious amounts of resin instead, resin production was evident from day 12 in 12/12 but really started to fatten up the heads around day 50 or so.
I find it performs best unstopped with a long vegetive period. The high is very creeper at first you may think that its not so strong but then whammo...it hits you hard and there's no turning back then...you will be deep in thought and meditative for quite some time...the duration and intensity is strong and thought provoking.
1. Phenotypes - Two main phenotypes both with a Lemon Haze smell and short growth one tends to be more a pine smell.
2. Height-Look for the Short Pheno/ Colas swell late
3. Yield-Medium-Heavy / Moderate trim work
4. Indoor/ Outdoor
5. Best way to grow- Untopped and vegged to a full bush.
6. Harvest Window_8-9 weeks
7. Sativa/ Indica 70/30
8. Hybrid-Pluton X Purple Haze X Lambsbread X NL X Jack Herer X Romulan X Cindy99BCGA
9. High type-Intense, trippy, visual, phase shifting, increased heart rate, heavy crash increased appetite, pain relief, paranoia
10. Taste Like: Lemon mango pine hash with a heavy haze influence




Well, actually let's start with "skosh"
1985 SSSC (Nevil's)
NL#5 X Pluton
Back crossed into the original NL#5 mom.
NL#5/Pluton X Purple Haze
Backed into the NL#5 mom

From SpeakersRfun

I first want to start off by saying WOW, anyone who harvests this pheno will know for sure it's the Soylent pheno once they start to trim her, your eyes burn like wild from the very strong pine and lemon cleaner smell. I'm telling you honestly and not shatting you one bit my eyes watered and my nose burnt the whole time trimming this trimming nightmare, sticky icky.... This will not be a huge yielder as I made seed from this run but it is the frostiest plant I've grown, and believe you me I've grown some champs in that department (pineapple skunk, OG champagne Kush, MK Ultra & Heck Vortex to name a few). This plant produced very thin screwdriver handle thickness buds that pretty much stopped active calyx growth early and produced copious amounts of resin instead, resin production was evident from day 12 in 12/12 but really started to fatten up the heads around day 50 or so. Unlike my funky pheno of Vortex the resin glands stood much shorter on this JTR which made it look like it was blanketed in white cloudy resin heads very early, the Vortex all though a resin factory has long glands and without any magnification harvest can be visually distinguished with the help of the wide separation of the large glandular heads, this due to the longer glandular stock. This pheno of JTR is incredible in the fact that there doesn’t seem to be a visually active gland head, yet the whole stalk and the head are one mass of resin(sorry folks no macro’s this time my Nikkor 90mm is being repaired), and due to its closer proximity made it not only look blanketed but was a trick to try and trim at a decent rate. Trimming would have been a breeze as the buds grew very little leaf and what leaf it did grow where single segment leafs... essentially resin leafsickles, but they where sticky and very greasy when cutting causing multiple stoppages due to scissor gumming and the inevitable goo smoke as we continue trimming .

Drying in the closet it smells very strong of pine cleaner and once again too long in there with just one plant hanging and your nose burns and eyes water. Calyxs are huge without seed and the beans look to be of fair size, yet I may have quite a few immature beans it seems I will reap many a good one in the bunch also. This is a G-13XJTR cross... not on purpose, but I didn't spray the G-13 and MK Ultra down enough after I used the Male G-13 like a man-*****, and seeded a few plants within blowing distance of stray G-spunk, she was a victim.

Once dry it takes on a spicy haze overtone with the cleaner smell underneath, if you break off a nug and give it a good squeeze it once again smells to high heaven of Pine cleaner. Once in the jar a few days the hazy smell really settles in, with a woody smell almost, the strong cleaner smell is still very present when a bud is cut or squeezed but seems to be subdued after curing a while.

Smoke is very dry and expansive, very hard to hold a good toke down, in it goes and it wants out sort of thing. The taste is very woody almost like cedar and pine but a dry type of taste, reminds me of when I was in high school and got haze and tai, old school taste. I really like the smoke from this because I wasn’t looking for an overpowering taste like the smell, and I was sort of worried I would be bombarded by a cleaner taste but I got a nice surprise with what it tastes like dry.

Now for the most important part, buzz, well apart from it being almost instantaneous there were no huge surprises, I have some Spacequeen, Dannyboy, and Vortex and all have killer head but JTR was a little different than the rest after a 5 min settling in period. It seemed to slam me in behind my eyes and almost warp my peripheral vision, so a no drive on this type of herb, herb. I had ringing in my ears something I haven’t had in a while from herb, kind of a white noise type phenom. Overall I would say the taste and buzz go very well together, you know some herb has a fruity smell and when smoked has a earthy or musty taste, well the JTR stayed very true to an almost Hazy type smell and stone. In my opinion a great smoke, with a little more veg time and not seeded this could be a real knockout, JTR Soylent is now replacing my Lemango pheno due to space and I don’t feel bad about loosing the yield, she makes up for it in personal stankity dank dank head, Peace and keep well.

world class

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Hi...thanks SHSG, Peesh and Banana man is that mr b on AN?

To answer yer question I'll try to desribe my smoking experience with the ripper...through out the day I smoke somewhat mild but consistent usually taking a puff here a puff there and usually not getting overwhelmingly hi...however later this afternoon I wanted to get testy with the Jack and take more than a mild 1-2 hit dose and I believe I took about 5+ cool hits I really don't remember as it was an experience... that lasted quite some time...the hi is very strong in the head almost feeling it inside yer head physically and makes an over the top pain killer because it is so thought provoking and will put you in a different realm of thinking and definately make you forget about pain...some paranoyia but very pleasant at the same time...makes a good cheery day smoke if taken in light doses...very flavorful, very fruity all phenos smell like 1 fruit or another...the hi is very creeper....at first you make think this aint that strong but then whammo...it hits you hard and there's no turning back then...you will be deep in thought and meditative for quite some time...the duration and intensity is strong and thought provoking....definately at the APEX of great genetics hats off to breeder...Subcool, and Miss Jill & TGA family and associates....world class kick ass super grass.....

I hope this answers yer question SHSG...peace and thanks fer stoppin by...

Peesh

hey sub guess what ? i have got a tradmark jtr looks bigger than the big yielding cut from pistils and is textbook jtr how you describe it ..... it is as big as my pineapple as a single header , the other pheno is the spaz pheno grows flat tops with pointy up leaves ..... the first one looks like it wants to grow a long full bud its got all the resin a man could wish for and more .....
there is a photo in bmans thread sonic seed mini tour .......

i will run the jtr in my main room after the kali shnapple 2 ...... so there will be 49 of your daughters soaking up 9 x 600wt lights in a 8ft x 8ft stage......
they always get big in that room 5 to 8 kegs...... ill get some amazing ripper shots then mate.......

just want to add guys i am no bum chum if i think some thing is crap i say so.....

in the pack of seeds sub gave me wich i bought at the last cup.... i have germed them all .. all had the smae overall smell that is discribed by sub. all flower about the time i was told , i had a good sellection to choose from one pack of seeds ........ this is the first strain i have bought thats does what it said on the packet, all seeds being a similer vertion of its self.......

cheers sub mate , i have done all the seeds from one pack and i couldnt of spent my money any better i swear to god .......

i should have listened to you when you told me not to by the super bud seeds from sensi as they were shit imo..

i got agent o and space queen in test next cant wait .....

hi guys,just thought id put up a couple of pics of my lovely jtr just before the chop and a cured bud shot.although this was my first grow i have been a toker for twenty years and have visited many producing countrys over the years,morroco,jamacia,thailand etc,i wont bore you with travel adventures here i just want to make the point ive smoked alot of great herb over the years and the jtr ranks as one of my top smokes ever!!this pheno was very hazy,reminded me a bit in smell as amnesia haze which i regulaly sample in th dam,there was also a dank fruit undertone to the haze,just amazing!!the buds were so sticky and crystallised even after a cure and when grinded were more like little hash balls then dry weed,the effect,wow,like a haze but heavier and more potent,nice one to sub for the breeding and major props to the creator.take it easy,karma purple
 

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I wanted to do a full in depth thread on our most popular hybrid. Grown all over the world now and replacing strains like Cheese in UK grow rooms I hear more and more great things about this cross from independent sources. Over the last few months enough people have finished her that she has started quite a commotion. I have seen it appear in the Trans High Quotes and I have a folder full of completed pictures from growers around the world. I wanted to tell her story while showing off my favorite females and make sure all the details are correct. TGA has risen fast in the breeding community by working hard and showing almost every aspect of the breeding process, so much so that if you’re a member of our website it’s almost a live cast. Jacks Cleaner is a mother collected from an old friend named Skoosh and out crossed to Jack Herer. The origins of The Cleaner are:
1985 SSSC (Nevil's)
NL#5 X Pluton
Back crossed into the original NL#5 mom.
NL#5/Pluton X Purple Haze
Backed into the NL#5 mom

This is the point I received 100 or so seeds and from that entire lot found one incredible girl. JC was passed out to a select few and outcrossed with Blueberry. This Lemon/ Blueberry combo yielded some yummy variations and BOG used some of these to create Lifesaver. I spent some time traveling and doing some things I’d have rather not ( Jail) and when I got my legal status and started working to create better med strains we started the Space Queen and found both great males and females and created some f2 crosses to give away as freebies to TGA fans. MzJIll also used this Space Queen male we now call Space Dude to cross her Orange Velvet to and created Jillybean. Knowing Space Dude is a “Good Boy” as Jill likes to say and reviewing the less than steller results of JC BX I decided to completely start over with the cubing of JC using Space Dude to outcross her to. What we didn’t expect was the perfect combo of JC x SQ being better than the mother! Yes I said it and many others that have smoked the two side by side have confirmed it. Here are the things that are better about JTR.

Smoother taste on inhale and exhale with almost a Lemon Candy like after taste.
Faster finishing usually done at 8 weeks.
Shorter node spacing and less stretch when entering flower.
Combined terpines create smells of Lemon and Mango and Resin so dense the leaves Curl up with Trichomes even the fan leaves have Resin on them!

There is some variation in the strain but not as much as you would think. The
Most dominant female is a short sticky female we call Lemon and can be identified by the Venus Fly Trap look of her resinous leaves. The other main Pheno is a more Space Queen dominant than can easily be spotted by her tall stretch and long internodal spacing. This Phenotype actually developed slower than the other type and I culled her even though other that tried her loved her. There is slight variation but every female reeks of lemons, haze, incense, and over powering sour fruit. The big surprise however is not the great taste but the extreme buzz that seems to cut through any type weed. Even after smoking Apollo or even bubble hash all day when I have a few bowls of JTR it’s just makes my heart race and my ears ring. I find myself talking faster laughing and telling stories more than usual while high on JTR. It doesn’t seem to have a ceiling and the more I smoke the higher I get to the point my vision will actually blur from multiple bong hits.
I sent a few samples to friends and the feed back has been overwhelming. One friend who has access to some pretty amazing strains says it’s his new favorite and with Budding plants at day 35 he is about to explode with anticipation.
 

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JTR!!!!!! nice read bro. I don't think I'll ever get tired of lookin at that plant. I'm finally about to begin my indoor JTR grow. Great pics too
 
The whole top row is JTR there abit bigger now but i cant wait to see what i got on my hands 5 cuts from 7 diff females yay for variation
 

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A professional grow in the UK
by Sonic Seeds
 

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JTR my from garden
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I got a little fancy with this one
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wow all the pictures look amazing glad i found this thread i plan on buying some tga seeds for my next grow and give a try and making my own seeds, I want awesome genetics if i bother to get some seeds and i have yet to see a plant from TGA that isnt dank, now if only i knew which strain i wanted..
 
JTR my from garden
tcurtiss-164452-albums-3-stooges-picture1111738-jtr-top.jpg


tcurtiss-164452-albums-3-stooges-picture1111741-redhairs.jpg


I got a little fancy with this one
tcurtiss-164452-albums-3-stooges-picture1111737-parting.jpg
Dayum! Those look amazing! I'm gonna be starting my vortex soon so hopefully I'll be posing something nice like that. I'd rep ya but it says I need to spread some around first. Nice job bro!:weed:
 
Wow. Sub and TCurtiss those JTRs look amazing. They look very different, is that just a difference in phenotypes?

It is a cutting from a local well know club so I cannot be 100 % of it's originality, but when you touch her your fingers come back covered in a gooey substance that has the most amazing fragrance and I have smoked Northern Lights before which is a part of the cross - Hybrid-Pluton X Purple Haze X Lambsbread X Northern Lights X Jack Herer X Romulan X Cindy99BCGA in Jack & I did taste it from an early sample so....
 
And another is the one next to the wooden handle was a little to close to the light causing it to get a little bigger than usual, actually she is a complete monster at this point but I am enjoying the ride

That main top cola will be 15 plus grams I am thinking
 
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