TGA Strains Stable?

how was the vortex started some a week ago just curious if u liked it or not and is it as potent as they say

I once was ready to buy some tga seeds til one day i watched a few youtube videos. Everything subcool was saying as a breeder didn't make sense. He side a worked strain was better before it was worked and that it doesn't matter if it's the real strain or not just as long as it's dank. I watched him dance around questions by telling ppl to google articles he'd already wrote. Breeding a strain and not knowing its origin or caring if it's wat its suppose to be raise many questions, as a breeder. When he goes on rants nobody questions him, they embrace it like it's ok. The day sub stop lying is da day i stop taking. Go to his forums and see how ppl get treated. Respect is given to those who give it. I don't care who buys his seeds. But every time i here him lying imma let the truth be told. Subcool hides from the truth on these forums by deleting them and not one of his bullshit lies been deleted. He also said he's a outdoor grower...who waters a plant when it's 90 degrees outside in the middle of da day? Another lie, he doesn't know shit bout outdoor grow nor does he know anything about breeding. Nobody can name one tga hybrid that can be grown in high humidity conditions. No one can name one hybrid from tga that isn't jack herer related. Him calling himself a breeder is disrespectful to all breeders who take the time working strains. Then to watch a backyard breeder make a name off ur hard work is crazy. Subcool seeds aren't worked strains...nevilles work, grimm's work, bog's work, and shanti work.

better go watch a couple recent videos. he says he has no clue about outdoors and is learning as he goes.

he didn't delete my report of hermies.

shanti, the proven plagiarizer, good example.


on a side note, if you put this much energy into breeding the last 15 years, you would have something to show for it. you don't hate the man, you despise his success. success you wish you had...

ya 15 years...sorry...but thing is hes a stoner stoners ramble they talk, they forget what they said and then talk some more they feel good about their accomplishments and no wht he has alot to boast about i dont blame him a bit even if he imbelishes a little so what hes a good business man. ive grown outside and i watered the guerilla grow when i could and alot of times it was mid-day high heat with no ill effects...not ideal but by no means does that mean it was a lie

and p.s. to not give a company a chance that might have some killer shit you will love to keep around just based on watching youtube videos of a stoner getting high and rambling on about things he likes and cares about is kind of naive....

Hahaha....i enjoy my success. Funny thing is i have better genetics and their more stable than anything tga has or had out. Understanding wat doesn't make a good cross makes a good breeder and knowing the male is the most Important part also makes u a good breeder. It's not those hard to find female cutting every great breeder looking for it that STUD. Females are easy to find. I grew out crosses like pineapple kush two years before dna got there hands on it. I had smoked and grew out afgt/sk x afgs/ sk....it's a strain which once cured turns black. I have it in seed form no clone only. I also have ssh x sk which is the world's best hash making plant. Nevilles Widow which is so strong Shanti himself won't release it, i only have 10 of those seeds left. Right now i'm smoking on some Richard David and it's not clone only.

15yearsofbreeding said:

Hahaha....i enjoy my success. Funny thing is i have better genetics and their more stable than anything tga has or had out. Understanding wat doesn't make a good cross makes a good breeder and knowing the male is the most Important part also makes u a good breeder. It's not those hard to find female cutting every great breeder looking for it that STUD. Females are easy to find. I grew out crosses like pineapple kush two years before dna got there hands on it. I had smoked and grew out afgt/sk x afgs/ sk....it's a strain which once cured turns black. I have it in seed form no clone only. I also have ssh x sk which is the world's best hash making plant. Nevilles Widow which is so strong Shanti himself won't release it, i only have 10 of those seeds left. Right now i'm smoking on some Richard David and it's not clone only.

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bro, your so full of shit. shanti has something "So Strong" he wont release it?

I don't care if u don't believe me.

U mean to tell me that subcool is learning how to grow outdoors? Damnit man!! Hahaha all that shit he be talking and after all those magazine article he lost like a duck outta water. That's funny as hell.

The man makes i mean mixes his own potting soil because he doesn't make his own soil he uses roots. So he makes up his own potting soil mixture but can't do wat i've been doing. Hahaha!!!! Go buy all the tga seeds yall want too. Hahaha. I'll never say another bad word about him again, now i know his strains indoor bred backyard trash that can't take outdoor stress. I'm done with talkn bout....mmmm who is he? Wats his name again? Hahaha

what do you mean his strains can't take outdoor stress, i've grown tga 3 times outdoors now and got respectable results, if you really gave a shit and did research(watching his weed nerd doesn't count) or even grew his genetics you wouldn't be bitching on a forum as if you have nothing better to do. go check budologist420's grow journal, he's got almost all tga genetics going outdoors.

15yearsofbreeding said:

The man makes i mean mixes his own potting soil because he doesn't make his own soil he uses roots. So he makes up his own potting soil mixture but can't do wat i've been doing. Hahaha!!!! Go buy all the tga seeds yall want too. Hahaha. I'll never say another bad word about him again, now i know his strains indoor bred backyard trash that can't take outdoor stress. I'm done with talkn bout....mmmm who is he? Wats his name again? Hahaha

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isnt sub releasing his own soil?he might have done it already.
sub really divides opinions.some say he's just a good salesman,some say he's a pollen chucker,and some say he's a top breeder.
i hav'nt grown any of his stuff yet,but some ppl seem to only grow his stuff these days.
i hav'nt got a problem with him.i think vaderOG and subcools channels are the best on youtube.vaderOG seems to really know his shit,he has some really nice strains too,but its hard to get his seeds.

Where are you selling your seeds at 15, I wanna grow some of that dunk.

Like i said he make mixtures, he uses Roots. Roots is SOIL. Worm Castings is Soil. In order for someone to make their own SOIL they would have to makeup their own dirt. He doesn't he buys roots and worm castings which is wat? SOIL. So he told another lie people believed. There's a big difference between making ur own soil and making ur own SOIL MIXTURE. Another dream sold but i'm not buying.

I never sell my seeds i pass out free 20 seed pack's at different Harvestfest and Schwag Festivals. Something TGA can never say they've done.

Just rolled up some Devil crossed with an ASH male.

but you care so much about subcool. you secretly in love with him?

i was going to buy i bunch of TGA gear. then i saw his youtube videos which make him out to be a total tool. Imo, he is a pollen chucker who passes himself as a breeder.

dukeblue said:

i was going to buy i bunch of TGA gear. then i saw his youtube videos which make him out to be a total tool. Imo, he is a pollen chucker who passes himself as a breeder.

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you already said the same thing earlier under your other account.

15yearsofbreeding said:

knowing the male is the most Important part

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oh ok....so since sub uses the same male in almost all of his projects because he knows the importance of that as well, and has a male that he says produces trichs, makes him a good breeder then?!?!! sounds like you just dont like the guy more than anything