tga subcool

1white1gold said:

I'd say that all breeders are a bit arrogant, but Subcool doesn't seem it in the least.

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I made an observation about how his void i grew out was more prone to budrot than any of the other strains i have or was growing and he didn't like this so simply deleted the post. He can indeed be a prick at times...

I had a really good pheno of Ace of Spades, never topped, got around 2 ounces per four 4 foot girls in 5 gallon buckets of organic soil under a 600 watt HPS

65 day flower some of my favorite smoke ever

tip top toker said:

I made an observation about how his void i grew out was more prone to budrot than any of the other strains i have or was growing and he didn't like this so simply deleted the post. He can indeed be a prick at times...

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Likewise, I've had very honest, non slanderous posts some how vanish from this forum...

Personally I try to stay focused on the genetics and not the person whom says/did create the gene's. It keeps it less personal, and in this industry when can use that.

Everyone has an opinion. IMO, if its a negative one, you'll find its best just to keep it to yourself. Practice conservatism Especially on this site. There is only one Judge, No Jury, and only One Verdict : Censorship is VERY MUCH alive here at RIU Right or wrong, its with the powers to be. If one doesn't like that, there are many other sites on the web....or at least this is how it was explained to me

With this breeder game the way it is today , you have to be blind to see that the open majority of it is truly senseless chest pounding. " This ways the best, these genetics are the best, your ways suck, mine rule, you drool, I win cups....its all pointless in the end, and in the end, thats what matters.

The best thing ANYONE on this SITE can do, is THINK FOR YOURSELF! LEARN FROM YOURSELF! It will have 100X more personal value to you as a human than if you read it from a post or from a book from some stoner placed on a pedestal like a god of knowledge....after all 99.9% of notable breeders in todays game are self taught. Granted there is rare exceptions, but not a one of the top 20 commercial selling breeders on the planet today have a college degree, let alone a University degree in botany.

Lastly, I have yet to have 1 of my post ever removed. Even after the upgrade, I still had all of my post. There are many ways to say every word in the English Language. Its always up to you on how you convey your words. Sometimes, IMO its not WHATS been said, but HOW its been said that gets it to mysteriously vanish

*** FullofPurple***....the person whom started this thread....You have a shit ton of TGA gear I sent you m8...then ya did a disappearing act just to come back a week later and say you been arrested with 400k bail....And yes I still have your PM of explaination so why ask what one you should buy...I gave you about 300 bucks worth of tga gear...for which you can say thanks to sub for!

Cheers World~

MixedMelodyMindBender said:

Lastly, I have yet to have 1 of my post ever removed. Even after the upgrade, I still had all of my post. There are many ways to say every word in the English Language. Its always up to you on how you convey your words. Sometimes, IMO its not WHATS been said, but HOW its been said that gets it to mysteriously vanish

Cheers World~

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I stated quite politely that my void plant had been more susceptible to bud rot thn any of my other plants. Subcool deleted the post, stated he had deleted the post and claimed it as all user error despite nothing else in the cabinet experiencing rot then or any time previously over 3 year of the same environment. It had nothing to do with how i stated it, he didn;t like the critisism of his genetics. In a way i cannot blame him, few tend to like critisism, but he needs to understand that this is a public forum he is using as his advertising tool and as such it is fully expected to hear both sides of the argument.

I agree with the former part of your post though.

tip top toker said:

I stated quite politely that my void plant had been more susceptible to bud rot thn any of my other plants. Subcool deleted the post, stated he had deleted the post and claimed it as all user error despite nothing else in the cabinet experiencing rot then or any time previously over 3 year of the same environment. It had nothing to do with how i stated it, he didn;t like the critisism of his genetics. In a way i cannot blame him, few tend to like critisism, but he needs to understand that this is a public forum he is using as his advertising tool and as such it is fully expected to hear both sides of the argument.

I agree with the former part of your post though.

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Srry m8 I am not the one to defend sub, I am positive he is capable of doing it himself. I think you may have missed my point where I stated that Censorship is very much alive here at RIU, if your not down with that, there are other sites that don't practice this and others that do.

With that, I am not disagreeing with you, but Im also not agreeing with you. FYI, this is a PRIVATE forum. Its owned by a person, its his private property that he tolerates the public using by the Terms of Usage. Along with any other forum/blog that is owned by someone if they are not kosher with your comment/post they reserve the right to delete it or give that power to someone else. I am not saying its fair or right, but neither is life

There is no promise made when they sell seeds ya know. No promise or warranty on the pack. Granted there is hearsay and hype, and even open end verbal promises, but nothing in stone. Nothing binding. Sadly, because the industry has not been fully legalized and thus commercialized, this is very much still a twist of business and the deceptions that comes with any form of business. As things stand now its still a very shady industry. Everyone looking to cash in as much and as fast as possible in case the cow runs dry.

But if you can't tell from the fanfare and their history, tga/sub are the furthest people from shady I have ever met/known.

MixedMelodyMindBender said:

Srry m8 I am not the one to defend sub, I am positive he is capable of doing it himself. I think you may have missed my point where I stated that Censorship is very much alive here at RIU, if your not down with that, there are other sites that don't practice this and others that do.

With that, I am not disagreeing with you, but Im also not agreeing with you. FYI, this is a PRIVATE forum. Its owned by a person, its his private property that he tolerates the public using by the Terms of Usage. I am not saying its fair or right, but neither is life

There is no promise made when they sell seeds ya know. No promise or warranty on the pack. Sadly, because the industry has not been fully legalized and thus commercialized, this is very much still a twist of business and the deception that comes with any form of business. As things stand now its still a very shady industry. Everyone looking to cash in as much and as fast as possible in case the cow runs dry.

But if you can't tell from the fanfare and their history, tga/sub are the furthest people from shady I have ever met/known.

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You are obviously missing the pint yourself. Subcool is censoring any negative comment on his genetics himself. That is why you only read fanfare about him. Anything engative get's removed, there are PLENTY of other users who have criticisms removed so that all people see is positive things about him. It has nothing to do with what the owner of the forum can or cannot do, it has to do with subcool deleting negative comments so that he seems better than he is.

And iof you think that by deleting any criticism this is a suitable way of "defending himself", they you seem to have some issue with what a respectable person is. If he was all he's hyped to be he would be able to do just that, defend himself, not delete critisim and blame everything on the gower and not his genetics.

I am fully aware that there is no warranty given with seeds, which would make you think that a breeder would be accepting of the fact that maybe not all are as good as he'd like to think they are, but no, he censors criticism to make folk think that every bean is as good as they are cracked to be.

Just do some googling, you'll quickly find that he's far from this top shelf breeder his fanboys cmake him out to be

1. I did not state you were obviously missing any point, I stated that you may have.
2. I am well aware of what you posted. I observed your attempt to communicate a subject matter.
3. You open your post completely losing track of what this is about. I only read sub fanfare???? I am a personal friend of sub's. I read a ton of shit related to him. Both great and gory.
4. Your point is that it has everthing to do "with subcool deleting negative comments so that he seems better than he is". You obviously missed my explainations for his action on this subject but they are not HIS explainations.
5. The REASON he DOES is for HIM to say IF HE EVEN WANTS TO. Which, if you know sub, you would already know the reasons to his madness.
6. However he chooses to defend himself is his call, nothing to do with me.
7. I've known sub since Overgrow com and have meet him many times in my life. I think I am good on having a "need" to just do some googling.
8. You have completely made yourself look like your just someone pissed off at sub and thus wish to rain on his parade. That's your choice, but remember NOT YOUR SITE. Which YOU SEEMINGLY CANT SEEM TO CATCH THE POINT OF!
9. If you wish to carry such post out, there are many other sites that you can bash sub till your testicles decide to drop, and will never once be deleted.
10. Hopefully, by numbering this 1-10 you can possibly comprehend MY POINT.

You are a personal friend of sub, it's called a conflict of interest, your post is hereby meaningless You'd be what is called a shill, wouldn't matter what the truth was, gotta defend your buddy right

And i'm not pissed off at sub I don't grow his gear any more so it doens't really worry me in the slightest, i'm simply pointing out htat he looks good for the fact that he moderates everything so that he can look nothing but good

Meaningless to you, whom which seems inept to accept reality.

Like I said, till your testicles decide to drop.

Now you went from having a point to having completely off topic slander to say. Maybe 1 day kid, maybe.

MixedMelodyMindBender said:

Meaningless to you, whom which seems inept to accept reality.

Like I said, till your testicles decide to drop.

Now you went from having a point to having completely off topic slander to say. Maybe 1 day kid, maybe.

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conflict of interest It's rather a valid and accepted thing Your his personal friend, of course you're not going to accept or talk in a negative way about him. Hence why your post is irrelevent, to me and anyone with brains

Accepted in a court of law but on a internet cannabis forum???? You have no idea what friendship even means, let alone anything about the friendship I share with tga. Not just sub, TGA. It's a rather large family of friends. In the hundreds. Some of which are active on this site. Conflict of Interest is what you see, as its a shallow excuse to end this because you have nothing valid nor righteous to communicate. This went from how you gave sub feedback to I have nothing relevant to state because I am apart of tga.

Its easy to deduce just how shallow and young your mentality is.

Every living human has brains, but as proof that you stand as, its another thing to use them, and use them well.

Grojak said:

Really?.... Really? in 9 days you'll get a 5pack of Chernobyl free for buying any 2 5 packs or 1 10 pack and you spent $109 on a 10 pack, not 55 on a 5 pack and taken the other 5 free? Could have spent the other 50 bucks on diversity. Do you wear virtual knee pads for Sub?

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dude wtf are you talking about the chernobyl free 5 pack deal ended and was replaced with the spacebomb free 5 pack which he did get with his order.....also you say he spent 110 on a 10 pack instead of only buying a 5 pack and getting 5 free..uh dude you have to buy two 5 packs which is still 110 dollars who cares which were paid for and which were free as long as he still got the free pack....your either confusing or just confused, plus the kneepad comment makes you look like a dick dude

Grojak said:

Really?.... Really? in 9 days you'll get a 5pack of Chernobyl free for buying any 2 5 packs or 1 10 pack and you spent $109 on a 10 pack, not 55 on a 5 pack and taken the other 5 free? Could have spent the other 50 bucks on diversity. Do you wear virtual knee pads for Sub?

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when you buy tga, you get diversity, they are a bunch of poly hybrbids made of respectable parents. i got 2 packs of 5 Space Bomb for free, i only ordered 10 chernobyl, 5 agent orange and 5 ripped bubba, totalled to 220, that is 30 seeds for 200 without the shipping, so its basically the same rate i get at other breeders. I was planning on getting more FUGU kush from hazeman for the promo but i'm already stocked on genetics for the summer, i got 90 homegrown fantaseeds and another 30 Delta 9 labs seeds still waiting to be germinated,

For all those out there who figure sub is flossing on this forum through censorship need to watch his videos. The man himself has on Countless ocassions shown humility in what he does. This is one of the reasons I tried his seeds in the first place.

I can admit my mistakes, I don't check Attitude everyday and to be honest I'm still getting used to the new format of their page, last time I looked it was chernobyl and the monthly promo was up there I figured they were going to be together, my bad.

Don't take the kneepads comment personal, there are plenty of people who jock Sub, but I've yet to meet any growers who don't hangout online who share in the enthusiasm for his pollen chiucking ways.

1white1gold said:

Actually I quoted you on that. After your first post it was kinda pointless though. Why say anything at all if you don't have anything of value to contribute? This isn't your place to vent. Make a thread.

Sorry, just can't stand people who like to mislead. Your clarification was appreciated, but orig post was outta line w/o any clarification.

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I mean you could say Eff subcool and his seeds cuz he has shifty eyes...or eerily large hands..or whatever...but don't just be like, "Fuck you!"---"Why?"---"Just cuz..."

I have gotten great results from getting 2 good plants together and letting pollen fly..so so what...I mean who cares if 10 seeds makes 3 different plants? They are all cannabis right? Are they all good? Did it all get you high? Then be happy

IMO. and from experience.

Daytime- Spacedawg, Apollo13Bx

Nightime- Chernobyl but if you want a shorter more indica plant.. I'd choose Querkle or Deep Purple.. or Qush.

kermit2692 said:

dude wtf are you talking about the chernobyl free 5 pack deal ended and was replaced with the spacebomb free 5 pack which he did get with his order.....also you say he spent 110 on a 10 pack instead of only buying a 5 pack and getting 5 free..uh dude you have to buy two 5 packs which is still 110 dollars who cares which were paid for and which were free as long as he still got the free pack....your either confusing or just confused, plus the kneepad comment makes you look like a dick dude

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If you call attitude they will price-match the hemp depot. I spent $75 on a 10-pack of Jack the Ripper and got a free 5-pack of Chernobyl. Not that is one bad-ass deal. Along with the other freebies also.