That whole 2811 Club and Allan Sobol

7-8 pm How to Hire a Caregiver, instructed by the Arizona godfather of medical marijuana, Allan Sobol to include; All the legal requirements of retaining a caregiver, Reimbursement vs. Compensation, Working with and staying legal with a caregiver, How you can get affordable medication immediately, and everything else you need to know about working with a AZDHS approved caregiver

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Lucius Vorenus said:

So let's recap.

1. 2811 Club steals AZCS idea for a club (according to AZCS who stole it from someone else most likely).

2. 2811 Club gets shut down and raided

3. 2811 Club gets put through the ringer legally so they are unable to open back up but are vague in explaining WHY.

4. 2811 Clubs founder and known local sheister Allan Sobol sends out a press release this morning wanting to sell everyone on a $99 admission to his place to come and be one of his Caregivers so he can get back in business eventually.

5. Allan Sobol then releases this morning this site which nicely ties it all together, he had planned the whole time to make a movie about this entire thing and wants YOU the patients to finance it. http://metismoviesandmusic.com/

LOL. Now it's been said for the past 2yrs that Allan is a pretty epic piece of shit and IMO, it's now confirmed. This guy is one of the worst things that ever happened to Prop203 during it's beginning run and the way he hit the airwaves almost had Prop203 lost for us all. Now he is acting like he is the new Jack Herer of Arizona?

I don't mind a capitalist person but people like this opportunistic slimeball need to be ousted.

FUCK YOU ALLAN SOBOL YOU PIECE OF SHIT. Move on to your next scam.

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phxfire said:

Defamation of character is a good way to end up in civil court but I believe all patients are protected if it pertains to medical marijuana act violations bring by an entity other than the FEDs...
My advice... Don't say shit unless you can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt....

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Lucius Vorenus said:

Why did AZCS threaten to sue you or something?

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phxfire said:

AZCS just has more money to survive this long... Look at Micheal Jackson he was never charged with Rape... And O.J. Simpson got away with murder... Money goes a long way in the legal world...
And I am not defending them... They are for sure being watched... Which is fine by me... It takes time to build a firm case that will hold in court... I am sure they will be overwhelmed when shit hits the fan...
2811 Club was an easy target and easy victim to make an example out of... If they went after AZCS they would be a little more of a fight, in my opinion, and that fight will be in the States favor... But I have lost all interst in AZCS and dont not care to bad mouth folks even though they deserve it...

Defamation of character is a good way to end up in civil court but I believe all patients are protected if it pertains to medical marijuana act violations bring by an entity other than the FEDs...
My advice... Don't say shit unless you can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt....

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Samwell Seed Well said:

deframation of character only works if it is precieved that your character is intact already and that said statement or statements will be damaging to future business

i say fuck you and your PC bullshit, hes a SCUM BAG sue me ass


the cali style club makes this whole industry look like little bitches, complaining and whinning and scamming patients

we dont do this in washington so yall can lay in the shit beds you made

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Philosophist said:

LOL Azcs has been threatening to sue me for all the shit i talk on them for awhile now...i told them to suck it HARD AND deep. Only thing is this...its online thus "annonymous" they cant do shit about it. I checked with my lawyer Exwife.... i can talk ALL the shit i want about azcs and they cant do shit about any of it. If online shit talking was illegal id have been locked up looooooong ago.

Shit i still prank call Byrans faggot ass at least 2-3 times a week, and LOVE getting Bill on the phone.... Dont be such a pansy ass ffs.

What can they do??

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Philosophist said:

LOL Azcs has been threatening to sue me for all the shit i talk on them for awhile now...i told them to suck it HARD AND deep. Only thing is this...its online thus "annonymous" they cant do shit about it. I checked with my lawyer Exwife.... i can talk ALL the shit i want about azcs and they cant do shit about any of it. If online shit talking was illegal id have been locked up looooooong ago.

Shit i still prank call Byrans faggot ass at least 2-3 times a week, and LOVE getting Bill on the phone.... Dont be such a pansy ass ffs.

What can they do??

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Allan Sobol said:

The 2811 Club model was a unique one of a kind business model that was developed by me. No one else in Arizona operates anything similar, so, contrary to your assertions it could not have been stolen. The 2811 club was the first of its kind cannabis club to open in Arizona and immediately became the standard to beat. We enrolled over 500 patients our first month in business. For the record I have done more to help the Arizona marijuana community than any other individual. My accomplishments are well known across this state and consequently, I was coined the "Godfather of Arizona medical marijuana". The 2811 club was raided to make a political point. I take it as a compliment that they chose the 2811 club. The government wanted to cut off the head of the proverbial marijuana dragon hoping in would kill the whole serpent. They failed!! Clearly, we are the established leader in this industry. And lucky for most of the other smaller clubs the government chose someone who had the money and fortitude to stand up to them. Most other clubs would have ran for cover. Now to set aside your delusions, you need to know the 2811 club survived the test. The county attorney refused to file any charges, and we expect all our property to be returned. The matter is back in civil court where I brought it. The decesion as to whether or not the club is legal will be made by a civil court judge, which is what I asked for. I sued the government to prove my club was legal. How big are your balls??? In the mean while we are moving forward with plans to open a number of new clubs plus some new surprising marketing concepts. Which I am sure you will try to steal from me. Furthermore, the idea to produce a movie about the events in Arizona was presented to me by a Hollywood producer. This movie is not about me, but the government abuse in Arizona. We need to stand together as an industry to beat back the governments efforts to repeal the AZMMA.. I even brought the entire marijuana community together for this effort by helping to form the 203 Solidarity Council. So unlike you I understand that this is not about any one person, but rather a community effort. Your libelious and self-serving remarks are counter-productive to the movements efforts. Stop being a chicken shit, at least if you have something to say, be man enough to put your real name on it. By the way, I am proud of my achivements, and all the patients and other fine people that I have helped along the way, and yes I am a capitalist and I am not ashamed to admit that I make money with my agressive marketing efforts. Apparently alot more than you do.

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Allan Sobol said:

The 2811 Club model was a unique one of a kind business model that was developed by me. No one else in Arizona operates anything similar, so, contrary to your assertions it could not have been stolen. The 2811 club was the first of its kind cannabis club to open in Arizona and immediately became the standard to beat. We enrolled over 500 patients our first month in business. For the record I have done more to help the Arizona marijuana community than any other individual. My accomplishments are well known across this state and consequently, I was coined the "Godfather of Arizona medical marijuana". The 2811 club was raided to make a political point. I take it as a compliment that they chose the 2811 club. The government wanted to cut off the head of the proverbial marijuana dragon hoping in would kill the whole serpent. They failed!! Clearly, we are the established leader in this industry. And lucky for most of the other smaller clubs the government chose someone who had the money and fortitude to stand up to them. Most other clubs would have ran for cover. Now to set aside your delusions, you need to know the 2811 club survived the test. The county attorney refused to file any charges, and we expect all our property to be returned. The matter is back in civil court where I brought it. The decesion as to whether or not the club is legal will be made by a civil court judge, which is what I asked for. I sued the government to prove my club was legal. How big are your balls??? In the mean while we are moving forward with plans to open a number of new clubs plus some new surprising marketing concepts. Which I am sure you will try to steal from me. Furthermore, the idea to produce a movie about the events in Arizona was presented to me by a Hollywood producer. This movie is not about me, but the government abuse in Arizona. We need to stand together as an industry to beat back the governments efforts to repeal the AZMMA.. I even brought the entire marijuana community together for this effort by helping to form the 203 Solidarity Council. So unlike you I understand that this is not about any one person, but rather a community effort. Your libelious and self-serving remarks are counter-productive to the movements efforts. Stop being a chicken shit, at least if you have something to say, be man enough to put your real name on it. By the way, I am proud of my achivements, and all the patients and other fine people that I have helped along the way, and yes I am a capitalist and I am not ashamed to admit that I make money with my agressive marketing efforts. Apparently alot more than you do.

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Lucius Vorenus said:

I hear he doesn't have a legal degree, he was a paralegal. As for his money, you might want to look at his girlfriend for the answer to that one

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Allan Sobol said:

The 2811 Club model was a unique one of a kind business model that was developed by me. No one else in Arizona operates anything similar, so, contrary to your assertions it could not have been stolen. The 2811 club was the first of its kind cannabis club to open in Arizona and immediately became the standard to beat. We enrolled over 500 patients our first month in business. For the record I have done more to help the Arizona marijuana community than any other individual. My accomplishments are well known across this state and consequently, I was coined the "Godfather of Arizona medical marijuana". The 2811 club was raided to make a political point. I take it as a compliment that they chose the 2811 club. The government wanted to cut off the head of the proverbial marijuana dragon hoping in would kill the whole serpent. They failed!! Clearly, we are the established leader in this industry. And lucky for most of the other smaller clubs the government chose someone who had the money and fortitude to stand up to them. Most other clubs would have ran for cover. Now to set aside your delusions, you need to know the 2811 club survived the test. The county attorney refused to file any charges, and we expect all our property to be returned. The matter is back in civil court where I brought it. The decesion as to whether or not the club is legal will be made by a civil court judge, which is what I asked for. I sued the government to prove my club was legal. How big are your balls??? In the mean while we are moving forward with plans to open a number of new clubs plus some new surprising marketing concepts. Which I am sure you will try to steal from me. Furthermore, the idea to produce a movie about the events in Arizona was presented to me by a Hollywood producer. This movie is not about me, but the government abuse in Arizona. We need to stand together as an industry to beat back the governments efforts to repeal the AZMMA.. I even brought the entire marijuana community together for this effort by helping to form the 203 Solidarity Council. So unlike you I understand that this is not about any one person, but rather a community effort. Your libelious and self-serving remarks are counter-productive to the movements efforts. Stop being a chicken shit, at least if you have something to say, be man enough to put your real name on it. By the way, I am proud of my achivements, and all the patients and other fine people that I have helped along the way, and yes I am a capitalist and I am not ashamed to admit that I make money with my agressive marketing efforts. Apparently alot more than you do.

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