THC/SCHIZOPHRENIA relations

The Grinch

The Grinch

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I was under the impression that thc degraded (oxidised) into cbn, not cbd.

"Cannabinol (CBN) is the primary product of THC degradation, and there is usually little of it in a fresh plant. CBN content increases as THC degrades in storage, and with exposure to light and air. It is only mildly psychoactive. Its affinity to the CB2 receptor is higher than for the CB1 receptor" - thats from wikipedia which is a fount of misinformation, but i've read it on multiple sites.

I was under the impression that a plant needed to be bread for high cbd content, in the same way that plants have been bread for high thc content.

Hemp has a relatively high CBD content (which is nonpsychoactive) and a very low or no thc levels.

I've read that the brain of a schizophrenic contains many areas of little to no activity - as in major damage - and that CBD has been shown to encourage brain development/regrowth.
I'll try and find sources and post when I do.
 
Drr

Drr

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The Grinch said:
I was under the impression that thc degraded (oxidised) into cbn, not cbd.

"Cannabinol (CBN) is the primary product of THC degradation, and there is usually little of it in a fresh plant. CBN content increases as THC degrades in storage, and with exposure to light and air. It is only mildly psychoactive. Its affinity to the CB2 receptor is higher than for the CB1 receptor" - thats from wikipedia which is a fount of misinformation, but i've read it on multiple sites.

I was under the impression that a plant needed to be bread for high cbd content, in the same way that plants have been bread for high thc content.

Hemp has a relatively high CBD content (which is nonpsychoactive) and a very low or no thc levels.

I've read that the brain of a schizophrenic contains many areas of little to no activity - as in major damage - and that CBD has been shown to encourage brain development/regrowth.
I'll try and find sources and post when I do.
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I do agree here.. this is what I have picked up in my research.. and the CBN is responsible for a anti-inflamatory effect.. the sleepy dumbfounded body stone.. which degrades from THC I beleive.. Which is why a good slow dry and cure is essential.. helps break down the THC for a better high in my opinion.. (to each their own) and also it lets the nutes and cloryphl break down.. smoother smoke..

The CBD I beleive is the rest of the bud left the calyx maybe?? not sure..

Or quite possibly a genetic CBD/THC combo..
not sure.. maybe CBD is the clear tric, cloudy is THC, and amber is CBN... BUT who really knows????

WE NEED MORE RESEARCH...
:blsmoke:

And the biggest problem I think is harvesting early..
 
inval

inval

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Additional Research on the Relationship Between Marijuana and Schizophrenia
A recent British study led by Dr. Martin Frisher of Keele University examined the records of 600,000 patients aged between 16 and 44, and failed to find any link whatsoever. http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2009/09/02/cannabis-schizophrenia.html

Many of the studies that have tried to show a link between cannabis and schizophrenia have themselves been called into question by other researchers, such as the 2008 study published in the Lancet and popularly cited, and which Psychiatrist Dr. Lester Grinspoon Associate Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School critiques in the winter/spring edition of O’Shaughnessys
http://www.pcmd4u.org/OShaughnessys/Backgrounder_files/Grinspoon on Schizophrenia.pdf
 
rocksteady6

rocksteady6

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inval said:
Additional Research on the Relationship Between Marijuana and Schizophrenia
A recent British study led by Dr. Martin Frisher of Keele University examined the records of 600,000 patients aged between 16 and 44, and failed to find any link whatsoever. http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2009/09/02/cannabis-schizophrenia.html

Many of the studies that have tried to show a link between cannabis and schizophrenia have themselves been called into question by other researchers, such as the 2008 study published in the Lancet and popularly cited, and which Psychiatrist Dr. Lester Grinspoon Associate Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School critiques in the winter/spring edition of O’Shaughnessys
http://www.pcmd4u.org/OShaughnessys/Backgrounder_files/Grinspoon on Schizophrenia.pdf
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Inval for all your quotes and research there is just as many against it. Do yourself a favour and stop being so stubborn.

A meta-analysis suggests that cannabis use is associated with a 40% increased risk of psychosis in later life.
— Leslie L. Iversen, PhD


Lets just agree old Leslie is smarter than both of us and if he thinks it "could" be possible then maybe you should. He has analysed various studies and come to his conclusions along with many others, something you seem to fail to do. Your posts are the same. :sleep:
 
inval

inval

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rocksteady6 said:
Lets just agree old Leslie is smarter than both of us and if he thinks it "could" be possible then maybe you should. He has analysed various studies and come to his conclusions along with many others, something you seem to fail to do. Your posts are the same. :sleep:
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You're right:

Cannabis Less Harmful Than Aspirin, Says Scientist
By Marie Woolf, Chief Political Correspondent, The Independent

"Cannabis is a safer drug than aspirin and can be used long-term without serious side effects, says a book by a leading Oxford scientist.

Cannabis is a safer drug than aspirin and can be used long-term without serious side effects, says a book by a leading Oxford scientist.

The Science of Marijuana, by Dr Leslie Iversen of Oxford University's department of pharmacology, found many "myths" surrounding marijuana use, such as extreme addictiveness, or links with mental illness or infertility are not supported by science.

He also found cannabis is an inherently "safe drug" which does not lead to cancer, infertility, brain damage or mental illness."
 
rocksteady6

rocksteady6

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Look I am not entering into the debate about aspirin and it's possible detriments but I will be back. Mr mrs has hijacked the comp and I can't write properly on my phone. Hey I have an idea anval. Why don't you find a research done that contadicts your beliefs and at least I will respect that you do indeed read all material. If you say it's not possible then my assumption of your one sided stubborn view is correct.
 
TheNatural

TheNatural

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Were Cannabis that has been raised and properly harvested correctly, can take an ole sour puss and put a smile to their face.

Unripened Cannabis, will many times however, take whatever emotion or imbalances are going on in a person and intensify them.

It is very important for especially those that have imbalances, too make sure that they are somewhat centered in their thoughts and not concentrating on anything negative, when they consume Cannabis and especially, the street herb or any Tree that has not been fully ripened.

No paper needed for this common sense imperical data.

If you have common sense and are observant of yourself and especially others, it does not take musch too have a greater understanding of these Trees and the proper interaction, between them and US.

Now, if you want to break all of this down into some kind of scientific reasoning and have all of the numbers and words right and take the opinion of those in Science that have usually one or more things too loose or do not even know, what they are looking at as they themselves cannot allot of the time, seem to see past their logic and look at it from a little more of a " feeling, " standpoint......that is fine.

However, the greatest discoveries came from imperical data and common sense from those in particular Hobbies, that actually pay attention to their own eyes and thoughts and sees all they need to see on their own, from the benefit, that there common sense applications, have provided their Trees or animals or model car collection....ect.

For me, I could care less about most of their studies as my ancestors could care less, but yet, they found out quickly, the importance of letting Fruit Get Ripe and never needed a lab or paper to figure it out.

Nothing beats a good intuition, but it takes time to develope and some are just born with it.

Blessings,

Rev. TheNatural
 
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JohnnyGreenthumb

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All we have to do is use a little common sense here.No I do not have proof on any of this.IF you have a MENTAL disorder if you use a cerebral modifier like THC.it is only common sense to understand that yes in a small amount of people it could have opposite or aggravated response to a CHEMICAL EMBALANCE being aggravated in the brain (I know I am comparing peas and carrots here but Cannabis is a form of medication and like ALL meds they have different effects on different people.Example the person that has ADD and take meds to correct this will have a different and sometimes opposite reaction of the drug of a person without.The HUMAN Body is Different in all of us.so I could see how In a small majority that it could raise reaction. I do use cannabis ALOT to help with my pain... and have smoke some strains that made me feel Damn I should get Home.My wife will tell me which one not to get because it makes her paranoid:peace:..LOL
 
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Drr

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TheNatural said:
Were Cannabis that has been raised and properly harvested correctly, can take an ole sour puss and put a smile to their face.

Unripened Cannabis, will many times however, take whatever emotion or imbalances are going on in a person and intensify them.

It is very important for especially those that have imbalances, too make sure that they are somewhat centered in their thoughts and not concentrating on anything negative, when they consume Cannabis and especially, the street herb or any Tree that has not been fully ripened.

No paper needed for this common sense imperical data.

If you have common sense and are observant of yourself and especially others, it does not take musch too have a greater understanding of these Trees and the proper interaction, between them and US.

Now, if you want to break all of this down into some kind of scientific reasoning and have all of the numbers and words right and take the opinion of those in Science that have usually one or more things too loose or do not even know, what they are looking at as they themselves cannot allot of the time, seem to see past their logic and look at it from a little more of a " feeling, " standpoint......that is fine.

However, the greatest discoveries came from imperical data and common sense from those in particular Hobbies, that actually pay attention to their own eyes and thoughts and sees all they need to see on their own, from the benefit, that there common sense applications, have provided their Trees or animals or model car collection....ect.

For me, I could care less about most of their studies as my ancestors could care less, but yet, they found out quickly, the importance of letting Fruit Get Ripe and never needed a lab or paper to figure it out.

Nothing beats a good intuition, but it takes time to develope and some are just born with it.

Blessings,

Rev. TheNatural
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AMEN.. couldn't have posted better myself..
 
Drr

Drr

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JohnnyGreenthumb said:
All we have to do is use a little common sense here.No I do not have proof on any of this.IF you have a MENTAL disorder if you use a cerebral modifier like THC.it is only common sense to understand that yes in a small amount of people it could have opposite or aggravated response to a CHEMICAL EMBALANCE being aggravated in the brain (I know I am comparing peas and carrots here but Cannabis is a form of medication and like ALL meds they have different effects on different people.Example the person that has ADD and take meds to correct this will have a different and sometimes opposite reaction of the drug of a person without.The HUMAN Body is Different in all of us.so I could see how In a small majority that it could raise reaction. I do use cannabis ALOT to help with my pain... and have smoke some strains that made me feel Damn I should get Home.My wife will tell me which one not to get because it makes her paranoid:peace:..LOL
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and another good post.. everyone is different and affected differently by everything.. :mrgreen:
 
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rocksteady6 said:
I think this site is full of wankers who know very little on various topics and want to criticise instead of offering help. I dont want to criticise your opinion but i it may interest you to visit the local psych ward and have a chat with their patients and discover how they came to be there. As you will see in my past posts i dont give advice on growing as i dont know about it. I know about this. Not all patients i agree but a lot. We dont need studies to confirm something thats completely obvious. Do we do studies on whether getting hit by a car causes injuries?
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Heav-yy!! Anyway, my contribution is this: Certain strains can make some people excessively paranoid or anxious...There are certain starins Ive smoked in the past that have made me feel like I was on some mild acid; Sensi Star was one of em. Nice smoke but I'd avoid it now as it tripped me out so much. If you are a worrier at times like I am indicas can be a more relaxing smoke but I find no matter how medicating these strains feel I find they drain me of any motivation after smoking them for a few days. I prefer to smoke indica sativa hybrid strains as you get a more balanced high, cerebral but sedating aswell. Pure sativa strains tend to make me think way too much and indicas turn me into a zombie...But, I do love that about cannabis. Its so versatile! Theres a smoke for every mood it seems.:leaf:
 
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