THCa

Yes there is hemp derived THCa. There is also high % THCa in every potent cannabis that you've ever consumed. The simple fact is that the most powerful strains grow THCa initially, which slowly converts to D9 THC following the harvest and cure. If you want to speed up the conversion, then you need to apply additional heat. This is exactly what happens when you smoke it. If you look closely at the COA of pretty much any weed that you consider highly potent, you will discover that the majority of cannabinoids are THCa. If you were to test that same bud a year later, you would see that it had converted to THC. It takes over a year for all the THCa in bud to fully convert to THC. It does around a 20% conversion in the first month following harvest and dry, but then slowly tapers off.
 
PapaSlick76 said:
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Just dropping a link to clear up any confusion. Hope this isn't considered arguing.
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the consistent back and forth with name calling is considered arguing,
and than following him to another thread to continue it is also considered harassment / arguing/ thread derailing.

if you dont like someone, hover over their name or go to their profile hit ignore
 
thc is thca before its decarboxilated, that’s a fact. We were making suppositories for my friends moms cancer and my buddy wasn’t decarbing the oil when he first started and it would cause a burning in her ass. He researched it a bit and came to the realization that it was thca that was causing the burning. He decarbed it after and it never burned again. That was across all strains. UBC chemo, rockstar, Tyson, killer queen, and several others.
I’m not coming to argue with anyone, but this forums come up on a google search so its super detrimental to everyone who reads it when people post mis information
 
cannapotimus said:
thc is thca before its decarboxilated, that’s a fact. We were making suppositories for my friends moms cancer and my buddy wasn’t decarbing the oil when he first started and it would cause a burning in her ass. He researched it a bit and came to the realization that it was thca that was causing the burning. He decarbed it after and it never burned again. That was across all strains. UBC chemo, rockstar, Tyson, killer queen, and several others.
I’m not coming to argue with anyone, but this forums come up on a google search so its super detrimental to everyone who reads it when people post mis information
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Wow. Thank you. I was feeling like I was the only one with this thought. I just don't want further misinformation being spread around. Cannabis has too much of that already
 
Plantis Deorum said:
Yes there is hemp derived THCa. There is also high % THCa in every potent cannabis that you've ever consumed. The simple fact is that the most powerful strains grow THCa initially, which slowly converts to D9 THC following the harvest and cure. If you want to speed up the conversion, then you need to apply additional heat. This is exactly what happens when you smoke it. If you look closely at the COA of pretty much any weed that you consider highly potent, you will discover that the majority of cannabinoids are THCa. If you were to test that same bud a year later, you would see that it had converted to THC. It takes over a year for all the THCa in bud to fully convert to THC. It does around a 20% conversion in the first month following harvest and dry, but then slowly tapers off.
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This is super close. The thing is that the only reason that Thca flower exists is because the federal farm bill changed the definition of cannabis and hemp. So pot has above .3% d9 thc and if it not above this threshold, then it is thca hemp flower. Most flower that is grown is under 1% of d9 thc. If it is much higher, then you have to question the age or the amount of time stored.so it is not necessarily hemp derived. Just hemp as it is now defined.
 
cannapotimus said:
thc is thca before its decarboxilated, that’s a fact. We were making suppositories for my friends moms cancer and my buddy wasn’t decarbing the oil when he first started and it would cause a burning in her ass. He researched it a bit and came to the realization that it was thca that was causing the burning. He decarbed it after and it never burned again. That was across all strains. UBC chemo, rockstar, Tyson, killer queen, and several others.
I’m not coming to argue with anyone, but this forums come up on a google search so its super detrimental to everyone who reads it when people post mis information
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It's probably because the "A" in THCA stands for acid.
 
PapaSlick76 said:
This is super close. The thing is that the only reason that Thca flower exists is because the federal farm bill changed the definition of cannabis and hemp. So pot has above .3% d9 thc and if it not above this threshold, then it is thca hemp flower. Most flower that is grown is under 1% of d9 thc. If it is much higher, then you have to question the age or the amount of time stored.so it is not necessarily hemp derived. Just hemp as it is now defined.
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I'm aware of the reasoning, and calling it "hemp" is generally just a technicality which was exposed by the semi-recent changes in the farm bill, as you mentioned. At the end of the day however, any reasonable grower knows that it's not really hemp if it's testing even above 5% THCa. Unless federal legalization happens soon, don't be surprised to see to see that loophole closed.

Here's the thing though.. If you are a registered hemp grower, The USDA requires that hemp is tested using a post-decarboxylation method. See section 1.8 under "Summary of Practice" here: https://www.ams.usda.gov/rules-regulations/hemp/information-laboratories/lab-testing-guidelines
 
Plantis Deorum said:
I'm aware of the reasoning, and calling it "hemp" is generally just a technicality which was exposed by the semi-recent changes in the farm bill, as you mentioned. At the end of the day however, any reasonable grower knows that it's not really hemp if it's testing even above 5% THCa. Unless federal legalization happens soon, don't be surprised to see to see that loophole closed.

Here's the thing though.. If you are a registered hemp grower, The USDA requires that hemp is tested using a post-decarboxylation method. See section 1.8 under "Summary of Practice" here: https://www.ams.usda.gov/rules-regulations/hemp/information-laboratories/lab-testing-guidelines
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Agree to all
 
Plantis Deorum said:
Yes there is hemp derived THCa. There is also high % THCa in every potent cannabis that you've ever consumed. The simple fact is that the most powerful strains grow THCa initially, which slowly converts to D9 THC following the harvest and cure. If you want to speed up the conversion, then you need to apply additional heat. This is exactly what happens when you smoke it. If you look closely at the COA of pretty much any weed that you consider highly potent, you will discover that the majority of cannabinoids are THCa. If you were to test that same bud a year later, you would see that it had converted to THC. It takes over a year for all the THCa in bud to fully convert to THC. It does around a 20% conversion in the first month following harvest and dry, but then slowly tapers off.
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Um, I have never seen weed that gets stronger after harvest. This is a myth perpetuated by seed sellers and some growers who cant make good seeds or grow good weed. Now weed harvested way too early might get better when heated but I doubt it, I try not to harvest weed to early myself. When peeps first started spouting about curing improving weed I cured and kept weed for years trying it every now and then, nada did not get better than fresh. The best kept potency for 2 and a half years without any special care. CBD weed that is not hemp came about cause of seed makers not being able to keep the potency of there weed up to standards, ouhh we'll just call it CBD weed ha ha. If you breed by numbers THCA can most likely be bred to increase without making THC9 higher but at what cost? I am not trying to argue just putting out there an opposing view by someone with much experience with growing good pot. Any numbers used to describe weed is suspect to me. Some real THC9 weed.
 

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Um, I have never seen weed that gets stronger after harvest. This is a myth perpetuated by seed sellers and some growers who cant make good seeds or grow good weed. Now weed harvested way too early might get better when heated but I doubt it, I try not to harvest weed to early myself. When peeps first started spouting about curing improving weed I cured and kept weed for years trying it every now and then, nada did not get better than fresh. The best kept potency for 2 and a half years without any special care. CBD weed that is not hemp came about cause of seed makers not being able to keep the potency of there weed up to standards, ouhh we'll just call it CBD weed ha ha. If you breed by numbers THCA can most likely be bred to increase without making THC9 higher but at what cost? I am not trying to argue just putting out there an opposing view by someone with much experience with growing good pot. Any numbers used to describe weed is suspect to me. Some real THC9 weed.
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I think there is a misunderstanding. It does not get stronger over time. The thca degrades to thc over time. And if you look at any thc number for any strain, you are looking at mostly thca and less thc. Thca is just a precursor to the thc (delta 9 thc) that affects us. So as soon as you light a j, the thca mostly converts to d9 thc. Legal flower, black market flower, and thca hemp flower all follow this rule as they are really all the same thing. Thca was discovered ithe 1960s and was later (in the 90s) found to be the precursor to thc. Been true since then. This is nothing new.
 
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decrepit digits said:
Um, I have never seen weed that gets stronger after harvest. This is a myth perpetuated by seed sellers and some growers who cant make good seeds or grow good weed. Now weed harvested way too early might get better when heated but I doubt it, I try not to harvest weed to early myself. When peeps first started spouting about curing improving weed I cured and kept weed for years trying it every now and then, nada did not get better than fresh. The best kept potency for 2 and a half years without any special care. CBD weed that is not hemp came about cause of seed makers not being able to keep the potency of there weed up to standards, ouhh we'll just call it CBD weed ha ha. If you breed by numbers THCA can most likely be bred to increase without making THC9 higher but at what cost? I am not trying to argue just putting out there an opposing view by someone with much experience with growing good pot. Any numbers used to describe weed is suspect to me. Some real THC9 weed.
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I never suggested that it gets stronger, so not sure how you inferred that from my post. THCa degrades into THC as it loses it's carboxyl group (the acid) at a rate of approx 87%. CBD doesn't come from THC or THCa at all, it's precursor is CBDa.

Regarding the bud in your pic, have you ever had it tested? If so, take a close look at the COA, and unless it's been curing for several months, it's going to be mostly THCa.
 
Also the problem with saying you have either grown or smoked for a long time doesn't really correlate. I have driven a car for 33 years, but I am neither a racecar driver or a mechanic.
 
Plantis Deorum said:
I never suggested that it gets stronger, so not sure how you inferred that from my post. THCa degrades into THC as it loses it's carboxyl group (the acid) at a rate of approx 87%. CBD doesn't come from THC or THCa at all, it's precursor is CBDa.

Regarding the bud in your pic, have you ever had it tested? If so, take a close look at the COA, and unless it's been curing for several months, it's going to be mostly THCa.
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OK. Now we're friends.
 
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