The 12-12 From Seed Thread

del66666

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All Fertile Fibre coir is quality controlled, from sustainable organic sources at least 50 miles from the ocean.
To ensure freedom from salt—which ruins some of the coir on the market—our product is carefully tested. Test include electric conductivity, pH, density and consistency, sodium, potassium. Only when we are happy will we release it for sale.
Coir is the ideal medium for hydroponics.













Coir Bales


Our specially selected compressed 5Kg Fertile Fibre coir bales expand to make approximately 65 litres.
Use as a base for your own compost; add composted bark for drainage, plus some 5Fs fertiliser, and create your own high quality compost.


To reconstitute your blocks: –
You will need a large bucket/bowl or preferably a watertight wheelbarrow. Once you have added water (warm water acts faster) , leave to stand for 24 hours (this will even out the water content of your finished material).
 

PUKKA BUD

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All Fertile Fibre coir is quality controlled, from sustainable organic sources at least 50 miles from the ocean.
To ensure freedom from salt—which ruins some of the coir on the market—our product is carefully tested. Test include electric conductivity, pH, density and consistency, sodium, potassium. Only when we are happy will we release it for sale.
Coir is the ideal medium for hydroponics.















Coir Bales


Our specially selected compressed 5Kg Fertile Fibre coir bales expand to make approximately 65 litres.
Use as a base for your own compost; add composted bark for drainage, plus some 5Fs fertiliser, and create your own high quality compost.


To reconstitute your blocks: –
You will need a large bucket/bowl or preferably a watertight wheelbarrow. Once you have added water (warm water acts faster) , leave to stand for 24 hours (this will even out the water content of your finished material).
Cheers for that bro the coir stuff is different to what i use canna do there own but you can get ph probs with it think the stuff i use is better for in pots are you doin a hydro grow with it???
 

del66666

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no mate i hand water in pots, its a medium fine texture , no lumps or chunks, reminds me of good compost really.....was watering every other day but this grow im going to try every 4 days, just ph my feed to 6 ish, i dont rinse first and just do a good run off first time i use .
 

PUKKA BUD

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no mate i hand water in pots, its a medium fine texture , no lumps or chunks, reminds me of good compost really.....was watering every other day but this grow im going to try every 4 days, just ph my feed to 6 ish, i dont rinse first and just do a good run off first time i use .
Im tellin you del try the canna pro 1 day you wont regret buddy, its got the lumps and chunks but i think there to aid dranage apparently its got the best air/water ratio money can buy....i dont no tho!! lol
 

del66666

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Im tellin you del try the canna pro 1 day you wont regret buddy, its got the lumps and chunks but i think there to aid dranage apparently its got the best air/water ratio money can buy....i dont no tho!! lol
my mate just ordered some mate so will take a gander ............the only thing is i can chuck several blocks of coco in my cupboard.canna takes loads more space........if you go to fertile fibre they are giving free samples of coco out................
 

NewClosetGrower

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Im tellin you del try the canna pro 1 day you wont regret buddy, its got the lumps and chunks but i think there to aid dranage apparently its got the best air/water ratio money can buy....i dont no tho!! lol

hey pukka, what is this Canna pro 1 day you speak ok? lol i use canna flower nutes and after my last grow i wont use anything ever again. you cant beat it for the price
 

PUKKA BUD

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my mate just ordered some mate so will take a gander ............the only thing is i can chuck several blocks of coco in my cupboard.canna takes loads more space........if you go to fertile fibre they are giving free samples of coco out................
I no what your sayin del the 50L bags like havin a sack of spuds around all the time, i just stick mine in the loft out of the way though, £15 off ebay prob get it for 12-13 from grow shop :)
 

PUKKA BUD

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hey pukka, what is this Canna pro 1 day you speak ok? lol i use canna flower nutes and after my last grow i wont use anything ever again. you cant beat it for the price
Coco Professional Plus



Coco Professional Plus

CANNA Coco Professional Plus is the professional plant medium that offers the gardener and his plants many advantages. CANNA Coco Professional Plus consists of 100% coco flakes, produced in India while processing coconuts. It is specially prepared for fast growing plants. The production process is subject to strict quality controls so we can vouch for this product’s quality.
CANNA Coco Professional Plus is a pure, organic product with a homogeneous structure and has had a full buffering, eliminating the side effects of growing on coir. Thanks to CANNA’s unique production process CANNA Coco Professional Plus is free of harmful viruses and soil diseases.
CANNA Coco Professional Plus has a complex water/ air system that provides the ideal conditions for this professional approach to cultivation. In addition, it contains a special mould (Trichoderma) that protects the plants against soil diseases. CANNA Coco Professional Plus can be used a number of times and makes an excellent potting mix improver after use.
Growers "BEST BUY"

This is the well known CANNA COCO that we have seen for years! And cleared the way for growing on Coco indoors.
As we are used from CANNA it’s prime product carries the strictest R.H.P. quality mark and actually goes well beyond its regulations! (Read more about this in the CANNA Coco InfoPaper ). In short it makes sure that the product is free of weeds. The inspection is not limited to the finished product but covers the sourcing and processing of raw materials all the way to the bag.
CANNA’s buffering process allows us to ‘pre-program’ the medium to a certain age. This ensures you get the same consistent, high quality material time after time. Ready for optimal use straight away.
Specially selected prime Indian Coconuts form the base for CANNA Coco Professional Plus. Not touching the outdoor ground in the complete production process ensures the end product is free of weeds or soil diseases. Soaked in fresh water means no salts are present and make it the best growing medium of the future.
CANNA Coco Professional Plus is pre-soaked. Which means the product is ready for use straight away and doesn’t need to be very well soaked in your grow room before you place your seedlings or cuttings.


Heres some info on it mate the stuff kick arse!!!
 

ghb

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i get my pro + for £12 from the shop. it is just the same as the blocks but ready to go, it has benificial bacteria in it or some shit like that, i did a grow with and without it and i noticed that the normal coco got mouldy at the bottom of the pots where water was sitting, the pro+ didn't, both plants looked the same and yielded the same though so...........



edit: lol you posted that seconds before i got in there
 

newworldicon

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Im tellin you del try the canna pro 1 day you wont regret buddy, its got the lumps and chunks but i think there to aid dranage apparently its got the best air/water ratio money can buy....i dont no tho!! lol
Hey PUKKA I am looking at replacing the hydroton in ebb&flood for the canna coco, can I ask your opinion on the medium....

1. Did you have to rinse it straight from the bag?
2. If I used large 26cm sq. net pots would the medium drain away?.....the holes are no larger than smaller net pots.
3. How reusable is it?
4. Do you get a salt build up towards the top of the pot?

I'd appreciate any help you can give me in answering these questions.
 

PUKKA BUD

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i get my pro + for £12 from the shop. it is just the same as the blocks but ready to go, it has benificial bacteria in it or some shit like that, i did a grow with and without it and i noticed that the normal coco got mouldy at the bottom of the pots where water was sitting, the pro+ didn't, both plants looked the same and yielded the same though so...........



edit: lol you posted that seconds before i got in there
Sorry bro :) lol........the bacteria are the, Trichoderma
 

ghb

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Hey PUKKA I am looking at replacing the hydroton in ebb&flood for the canna coco, can I ask your opinion on the medium....

1. Did you have to rinse it straight from the bag?
2. If I used large 26cm sq. net pots would the medium drain away?.....the holes are no larger than smaller net pots.
3. How reusable is it?
4. Do you get a salt build up towards the top of the pot?

I'd appreciate any help you can give me in answering these questions.
i reckon if you still use a small layer of hydroton at the bottom of your net pots you will be fine, just coco is likely to get washed through and end up in the res, i find it to be quite fine
 

PUKKA BUD

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Hey PUKKA I am looking at replacing the hydroton in ebb&flood for the canna coco, can I ask your opinion on the medium....

1. Did you have to rinse it straight from the bag?
2. If I used large 26cm sq. net pots would the medium drain away?.....the holes are no larger than smaller net pots.
3. How reusable is it?
4. Do you get a salt build up towards the top of the pot?

I'd appreciate any help you can give me in answering these questions.
Im not sure if it would work mate i use the stuff in pots but sayin that there air pots and not alot escapes
1. No pre rinsed buffed and prepared for you :)
2.Maybe keep some hydroton to stop drainin away
3. You can re-use upto 3 times i think its ment to imrpove after the 1st, the micro life!!
4. No mate i never did
 

PUKKA BUD

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Hey PUKKA I am looking at replacing the hydroton in ebb&flood for the canna coco, can I ask your opinion on the medium....

1. Did you have to rinse it straight from the bag?
2. If I used large 26cm sq. net pots would the medium drain away?.....the holes are no larger than smaller net pots.
3. How reusable is it?
4. Do you get a salt build up towards the top of the pot?

I'd appreciate any help you can give me in answering these questions.

Have you looked at this on cannas site mate?

Aqua




Aqua

The CANNA Aqua range of products has been specifically developed for the use in combination with closed hydroponic systems, like NFT or Bubbler systems. With these systems the drainage water isn’t removed but is reused.
In this sort of system the plants are in direct contact with the nutrient solution. Because the plants do not absorb all the nutritional elements with equal speed or in equal amounts, the composition of the nutrient solution changes over time.
CANNA Aqua has been developed in such a way as to ensure that the plants can always absorb the correct combination of nutritional elements that are necessary for optimum growth and bloom. The formula is made up so the plants regulate the pH themselves so that the pH in the nutrient tank always remains within the optimum pH range. This means that having once set the correct starting pH no further correction is necessary.
In this way CANNA makes one of the most complex cultivation systems considerably easier for the grower. It’s not for nothing that the majority of growers in the UK, a country where this cultivation method is extremely popular, use CANNA Aqua.












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newworldicon

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i reckon if you still use a small layer of hydroton at the bottom of your net pots you will be fine, just coco is likely to get washed through and end up in the res, i find it to be quite fine
See I don't know if the layer at the bottom would necessarily do anything as the holes further up the pot would release coco too...thats if it's too fine. I may need to add a screen of some sorts but that's just backward in terms of progress...
 

newworldicon

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Have you looked at this on cannas site mate?

Aqua




Aqua

The CANNA Aqua range of products has been specifically developed for the use in combination with closed hydroponic systems, like NFT or Bubbler systems. With these systems the drainage water isn’t removed but is reused.
In this sort of system the plants are in direct contact with the nutrient solution. Because the plants do not absorb all the nutritional elements with equal speed or in equal amounts, the composition of the nutrient solution changes over time.
CANNA Aqua has been developed in such a way as to ensure that the plants can always absorb the correct combination of nutritional elements that are necessary for optimum growth and bloom. The formula is made up so the plants regulate the pH themselves so that the pH in the nutrient tank always remains within the optimum pH range. This means that having once set the correct starting pH no further correction is necessary.
In this way CANNA makes one of the most complex cultivation systems considerably easier for the grower. It’s not for nothing that the majority of growers in the UK, a country where this cultivation method is extremely popular, use CANNA Aqua.












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Yeah I checked it all out but they don't have any specific info on ebb&flood + coco. I feel all my initial concerns are answered except the drainage/net pot application issue.

Are you hand watering individuals? ....what's your growing method?
 
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