The 12-12 From Seed Thread

scotia1982

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Its lovely m8 hard to describe smells quite piney fresh but tastes quite similar to the cotton candy a grew last xmas. Would defo run again still got a few pips left ;-)
 

mantiszn

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Sounds yum
I got a couple laying around too ;)

So thinking about trying the GHE
All the schedules I see run on EC readings, do they have a ml/L guide too?
also do you need any cal/mag supplements if you in coco?


Its lovely m8 hard to describe smells quite piney fresh but tastes quite similar to the cotton candy a grew last xmas. Would defo run again still got a few pips left ;-)
 

scotia1982

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Yeah m8 when a ordered from gro-tec they sent a feeding chart in m/l good thing is can use in hydro coco & soil. The micro contains cal& mag a nd i found if there was a deficiency jst to up it by a couple of ml's to sort it out.

Al defo run the strain again at somepoint jst not in the near future
 

Farscaper

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Sounds yum
I got a couple laying around too ;)

So thinking about trying the GHE
All the schedules I see run on EC readings, do they have a ml/L guide too?
also do you need any cal/mag supplements if you in coco?
your talkn about general hydroponics flora right? I use it and it alone. I do dwc but i have heard many speak of its use with coco. If you are interested in it allow me to suggest researching the "lucas formula" its a ml/gallon mix ratio... It gets a little tricky with large recirculating systems when using the add back program but if its a drain to wste system it.so easy monkeys can figure it out... I cN go into greater detail if you like, but the basic idea is 2x amount of bloom to micro.. NO GROW. You dont need it because.all grow really has is N... There.is more than enough in the micro and bloom... It is also the cheapest chem nutes i can fine... Like 15 bucks per a 1 liter bottle.

Tds @ 0.5 conversion = ppm
G-M-B
0-4-8 = 473 ppm
0-5-10 = 592 ppm
0-8-16 = 947 ppm
0-6-12 = 800 ppm (this one is apeox... I only have a trunchteon meter and its tds readlut is via flashing lights)

Basically pretty simple i have read... Depending on ur coco brand/quality that you may need to supplement with Ca/Mg if the coco robes the plant of Ca... But i cant say foe sure.

Hope this helps!
 

Farscaper

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Yeah m8 when a ordered from gro-tec they sent a feeding chart in m/l good thing is can use in hydro coco & soil. The micro contains cal& mag a nd i found if there was a deficiency jst to up it by a couple of ml's to sort it out.

Al defo run the strain again at somepoint jst not in the near future
I never thought about boosting micro to fill in the def. Thats killer shit... I will write that down and try it next time
 

KidneyStoner420

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What do you guys usse for bloom nutes? I simply use FF's Tiger Bloom right now. I'm thinking of picking up some Kool Bloom powder for the last few weeks of flower.
Anyone use it?
 

majek

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Hey everyone!! It's been a loooooong time since I've posted, had some hard times and moved to a new city (Denver), but I finally got the materials I need to start growing again.

Here's some pics of 2 blueberry x og kush ladies 7 weeks into flower, 12/12 from seed of course :) I'm using a 250w HPS and Advanced Nutrients 4-part formula (grow, micro, bloom, bud candy).

About 2 more weeks and they should be ready, had to tie the branches with string they were getting too heavy, lol :leaf: I'll take some better pics later when I get a new battery for my camera >_<

Let me know what you think!

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Farscaper

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What do you guys usse for bloom nutes? I simply use FF's Tiger Bloom right now. I'm thinking of picking up some Kool Bloom powder for the last few weeks of flower.
Anyone use it?
i use GH Flora throughout the whole grow... i just increase the EC until its up to 800 to 900ppm @ .5 con... (Lucas Formula) Works for me in DWC. Never tried Kool Bloom... but as i understand it your best use is to toss it in with just a couple feedings around half way through flower or a lil after. I believe that its purpose/ function is to shock the plant into producing more resin to protect itself... but i will let someone with actual experience go further with explaining it.
 

Farscaper

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man you plant looks fkin amazing for 250watts!!??

This is about 800watts of LEDs, 7 plants, 1 is ahead of the others, and a couple are quite a bit behind... but everything is 12/12!

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Deliciousness!
So my question is, how do you know how many lumens your LED lights put out... I was checking out lights the other day and T5 have a lumen rating and HPS and MH have lumen ratings, but i couldnt find anything on LED.... do you just estimate coverage with wattage or something? Was just curious :fire: always looking for a way to increase light !!!!
 

Endur0xX

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It's not about the lumens, it's more about watts per sq/ft , with LEDs I hear that you want at least 36watts per sq/ft, ... here I got about 40. I would like to add some more light when I get some extra cash.

We need Lumens to see, but plants simply needs the right spectrum to grow, ... my best LEDs dont have a lot of Lumens ... I don't really know how to explain it but basically, if you are shopping for an LED, don't even bother looking at the lumens, look for quality/warranty/price/spectrums. I buy my LEDs from ferodistributors.com
 

Endur0xX

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before I made the switch to 100% LEDs, I was using 2x400watters (hps/mh) in combo with LEDs and grew some wicked buds (my avatar was one of em!) But I think I will do better with 100% LEDs using less power ... and more experience too though! I do want to add an extra 200W in this room and bring it up to 50watts per sq/ft .
 

Farscaper

Member
before I made the switch to 100% LEDs, I was using 2x400watters (hps/mh) in combo with LEDs and grew some wicked buds (my avatar was one of em!) But I think I will do better with 100% LEDs using less power ... and more experience too though! I do want to add an extra 200W in this room and bring it up to 50watts per sq/ft .
Im gonna assume that since your now running the LED that they have proven greater growth watt for watt compared to HPS... im running a single 400 HPS in a air cooled hood... i just switch to it this last grow from an open batwing.... Do you have to deal with heat issues as much comparing a 400w hps to 400w of LED? The tent i run is 24x48 inch so the coverage of my single 400 is less than optimal... i had been looking at adding T5's to the corners for added light, but not sure what im gonna upgrade this next time.... im def interested in LED if it is worth the expense.... my biggest worry is always heat though.
 

Endur0xX

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I don't know that I could have been growing this summer with my previous setup, it's one of the reasons why I went with LEDs. The main reason was fire hazard though, I own my house and I got a little paranoiac about that... I am away from home for days every once in a while and it feels so much better now, I can be at peace when away from home.

Up until April, it had been a hit and miss with LEDs for me, but I was also an inexperienced grower, but I knew I could get some good smoke out of them too. So I took the plunge about 2 months ago and bought a 540Watts FERO led light to replace my 2 400W, the rest of the setup is more or less the same. I got everything ready and I left home for a couple weeks with my woman taking care of the plants, when I came back, MAN! was I ever sold on my new setup, I had never seen my room so green!

One modification I had to do is my air intake now draws air from upstairs in the house instead of from outside. Outside would be great right now but 2 months ago it was getting too cold, and another thing is from using the air from outside with my mh/hps, I couldnt keep the air flowing at night, so my humidity would always spike at night, now the fan is on 24/7, I have better control over the environment. The lights still get fairly hot in the way that you wouldnt want a big LED unit in a small room without good venting, but the plants could accidentally grow almost up to the light without much damage.

I think it covers everything!!
 

del66666

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day 24

Skunk 1

I thought the patchy yellowing was magnesium deficiency and added some epsom salts to the feed yesterday and also dropped the TNT back down to 4ml/ltr due to the yellow tips.......and raised the lights, though there may be some heat stress on the top leaves.

Any advice would be appreciated.
coco i presume.........tnt should be fine at 5ml per litre .........5.5 ph...........always add 1 teaspoon epsom per gallon towards end of veg and through about half the flower cycle....
 

UKHomeGrow

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Yeah coco mate, Ive switched them both onto the HESI COCO now, going to up it to 5ml/ ltr on the next feed........I added the epsom salts on Thursday, no change yet.
 
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