The AltarNational Garden

Hmm... maybe... I've got dolomitic lime in the soil and have been hitting it with cal/mg+ organic pretty often when watering (was correcting for high ph in tap water), so there should be enough Mg in general. But maybe that plant is higher in demand in that department than the rest and needs more. I dunno. I'm gonna try this tea brew with the EWC top dressed and see if she shows signs of improvement. If not I'll try giving her extra Mg. Thanks for the input, I appreciate it!
 
Altar's garden - but personally, especially if i was concerned about already having slower releasing Mg already in the soil, i would foliar feed the epsom salts. This would also bypass any Ca lockout to my understanding.

I am in no way a guru though - this is just what I did, in conjunction with a supplement to the water (I didn't put any in the soil when i started).

I would also add the disclaimer that I am just guessing really, especially if you are already giving a calmag supplement. I have never experienced Ca lockout of Mg so I have no idea whether that suggestion is credible.
 
That's not a bad idea, foliar feeding to get the mg in... I still have a little time, just flipped. I'll have to get to the store tomorrow and buy some epsom...
 
SnotBoogie said:
I would also add the disclaimer that I am just guessing really, especially if you are already giving a calmag supplement. I have never experienced Ca lockout of Mg so I have no idea whether that suggestion is credible.
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Heh, no worries... thanks for the input... can't hurt to give her a dose of epsom foliar spray and see what happens...
 
Sup boys 'n girls... just wanted to share that I'm getting set up for oil again now... I just splurged on a new portable pen vape... it is the micro vaped, and I got the glass globe attachment too. This looks like the best oil pen available on the market right now outside of the big boys like the persei. Can't wait to try it. I also got a 190 micron 5gal bag coming to do a dry ice extract. My plan is to extract a shitload of keif and then use ethanol or iso to extract oils from there for my pen and my concentrate bowl/soldering iron setup. :)
 
AltarNation said:
Sup boys 'n girls... just wanted to share that I'm getting set up for oil again now... I just splurged on a new portable pen vape... it is the micro vaped, and I got the glass globe attachment too. This looks like the best oil pen available on the market right now outside of the big boys like the persei. Can't wait to try it. I also got a 190 micron 5gal bag coming to do a dry ice extract. My plan is to extract a shitload of keif and then use ethanol or iso to extract oils from there for my pen and my concentrate bowl/soldering iron setup. :)
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shouldn't need to with some practice in making dry ice hash. you do it right and you will get all high grade, then extract the rest for cooking.

IME the best yields come from dry ice but the shittiest quality. so far as far as the best of both worlds go, acetone is my fallback.
 
polyarcturus said:
shouldn't need to with some practice in making dry ice hash. you do it right and you will get all high grade, then extract the rest for cooking.

IME the best yields come from dry ice but the shittiest quality. so far as far as the best of both worlds go, acetone is my fallback.
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Well my goal is to end up at a pure melt that can go in the pen... pen can take anything that liquifies when heated basically... are you saying I can extract full melt with dry ice extraction as long as I cut it early enough? Then what, just heat it up and it will go liquid? (That being my understanding of the term "full melt", lol) Or do you still have to dissolve it in something liquid to get the form to change to oil or what?

Most important thing is ending up with a nice amber oil that can go in a pen, with minimal effort, lol.

Considering doing the dry ice extraction then doing a bho run with a fuck load of keif as well, but was hoping to figure out a way to avoid it... really wanted to just get some everclear to extract the keif but it's illegal in all the states around me...

Acetone eh... I'll look into it...
 
So wait, were you saying do acetone xtraction from square one, or use it on the kief after the dry ice method? Seems like it could be a good alternative to the hard-to-source 190proof ethanol, to extract after the dry ice. Wouldn't take nearly as much as it would to wash a bunch of bud, I'd imagine. I'd like to minimize the amount of that shit I'd have to let off-gas... can't be good for anyone/thing, lol. :O
 
Wish I could just walk to my local dispensary and buy some oil, LOL. :shakefist: they'd probably have the damn vaporizer that's in the mail too!! :shakefist:
 
BTW I gotta say, for those who are wondering, Sannies' Kolossus is a solid strain. I was worried that the high wouldn't be enjoyable or the flavor wouldn't be great, perhaps sacrificed to achieve such big buds... but overall I'm really happy to have four more kolossus seeds tucked away. I think they will be put to good use in the future.

The smell and taste are very interesting... like the inside of a hippie shop... it's a myriad of familiarity in various tints. There is a nice blended tone at first, sort of fruity, floral, and a hint of pine... but there is also a subtle creeping spice, almost cinammon, creeping up from below which mixes with the other scents to remind me a little of Christmas or a certain familiar incense upon which I can't put my finger...

The high is totally decent, but not the most 'interesting' thing I've had... hard to contrast it against anything else sativa right now as all I have is indicas otherwise but I would say that it is a decent level of uppy and stimulating, but with minimal anxiety/paranoia/trippy brain stuffs. It's a nice comfortable high that makes me feel pretty good but doesn't necessarily trip me way out like I like from my sativas, heh. It serves it's purpose as a 'utilitarian high' for me right now, though, as all the stoney indicas had me pretty damn unproductive, heh. Not to mention I am prone to anxiety/paranoia so it's better that my daily smokes not inspire it.

Just wanted to fill in some more details on my experience with this strain...
 
AltarNation said:
So wait, were you saying do acetone xtraction from square one, or use it on the kief after the dry ice method? Seems like it could be a good alternative to the hard-to-source 190proof ethanol, to extract after the dry ice. Wouldn't take nearly as much as it would to wash a bunch of bud, I'd imagine. I'd like to minimize the amount of that shit I'd have to let off-gas... can't be good for anyone/thing, lol. :O
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acetone from start yes.

hell yeah watch the vapors. they are worse than butane, but the quality is there so i suffer it.

acetone is safe. i used the kleanstrip shit from lowes after questioning another person, cause i seriously did not believe the shit was clean. but it was, stuff came out great.
 
AltarNation said:
Well my goal is to end up at a pure melt that can go in the pen... pen can take anything that liquifies when heated basically... are you saying I can extract full melt with dry ice extraction as long as I cut it early enough? Then what, just heat it up and it will go liquid? (That being my understanding of the term "full melt", lol) Or do you still have to dissolve it in something liquid to get the form to change to oil or what?

Most important thing is ending up with a nice amber oil that can go in a pen, with minimal effort, lol.

Considering doing the dry ice extraction then doing a bho run with a fuck load of keif as well, but was hoping to figure out a way to avoid it... really wanted to just get some everclear to extract the keif but it's illegal in all the states around me...

Acetone eh... I'll look into it...
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no, you can get "full melt" or more specifically tricombs and stalk only(if you heat them this will cause them to burst thus converting the structure into an oil it is not needed unless you got plant materiel in you extract, a solvent dissolves the trichome.)

the key with high quality dry ice hash is this, good starting material, not completely dry, mid way would be best, allow the ice and martial to sit before stating. as little movement as possible, shake for less than 30 secs, i shke for 5, collect, shake for 5 more collect. about 3-4 then you start to see some shit.

if you got the temps right, it will come out better, also you can shake through a screen then have another one elevated far enough off the bucket so as you shake the ice does not hit the other screen then that one, so the hash will fall through and you can refine even further.
 
polyarcturus said:
no, you can get "full melt" or more specifically tricombs and stalk only(if you heat them this will cause them to burst thus converting the structure into an oil it is not needed unless you got plant materiel in you extract, a solvent dissolves the trichome.)

the key with high quality dry ice hash is this, good starting material, not completely dry, mid way would be best, allow the ice and martial to sit before stating. as little movement as possible, shake for less than 30 secs, i shke for 5, collect, shake for 5 more collect. about 3-4 then you start to see some shit.

if you got the temps right, it will come out better, also you can shake through a screen then have another one elevated far enough off the bucket so as you shake the ice does not hit the other screen then that one, so the hash will fall through and you can refine even further.
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Thanks for this post! Wish I would have asked before I did my first run lol!...
Next one will be better for sure thanks!
 
polyarcturus said:
no, you can get "full melt" or more specifically tricombs and stalk only(if you heat them this will cause them to burst thus converting the structure into an oil it is not needed unless you got plant materiel in you extract, a solvent dissolves the trichome.)

the key with high quality dry ice hash is this, good starting material, not completely dry, mid way would be best, allow the ice and martial to sit before stating. as little movement as possible, shake for less than 30 secs, i shke for 5, collect, shake for 5 more collect. about 3-4 then you start to see some shit.

if you got the temps right, it will come out better, also you can shake through a screen then have another one elevated far enough off the bucket so as you shake the ice does not hit the other screen then that one, so the hash will fall through and you can refine even further.
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Thanks for the post Poly, good info! I will have my bag beginning of next week, then I'll go pick up some ice and see what I can do...

Question, regarding the above in bold, not sure I'm understanding exactly what you're sayin... where is this second screen going exactly? You mean like another layer of bag added, or are you talkin bout like some wider gauge window screen?

I also might try doing some acetone, I'll see if I can find the same kind ou got over at lowe's. Kleanstrip.. gotcha. What's your procedure for the acetone washing on buds/trim? How broken up, how long a soak, et cetera?
 
il have to take a pic of what i mean about the bags.


okay you got your bucket,filled , your 160 bag over top, then another bag on top of that smaller micron, but only pulled about half way down on the bucket over the other bag. so as you shake the resin falls through the first screen in to the area between he 2 bags through the second screen and on to the table.

the key if you get what im saying with this 2 bag method is to have the second bag close enough that the falling resin does not stick to the sides yet far enough from the first screen(when i say screen talking about the mest bottom of the bag) that the ice does not bash into it and launch the resin to the sides.

bout 3-4" is the space i put between the bottom screens of the bags.


so when you shake only the finest will come out, and whats between the bags will be not as high quality but still good.



acetone is just like butane except you cant pressureize, well you can, but that involve more work and money than need to preform the process.

you want cured material, thats pretty dry.
you want to wash the material as little contact time as possible(acetone is cheap, but let me remind you this is an outside thing)
coffee filter or cheese cloth. i recommend the latter.
and about the same size as butane, not finely ground but chopped up a little.

hope that helps!
 
Hey poly I'm going to be posting up some pics of the haze's and g13.

So keep your eyes open and wait until you see them :D
 
giggles26 said:
Hey poly I'm going to be posting up some pics of the haze's and g13.

So keep your eyes open and wait until you see them :D
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cant wait ive been paying attention i see the strain has been worthwhile i am glad to hear it!

cant wait as what i have seen from mine thus far are amazing.
 
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