The Art of The Auto

crazytrain14 said:

whats up everyone

chopped my dinafem roadrunner lastnight. finished on day 48.

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Was that 48 days from germ?

zip = one oz

Hi all

Its been a while since I have posted on this topic. Been growing la Diva auto strain(delicious seeds) and have had great success(getting over 2 ounces dry weight of each plant)

Started a third batch a few days ago and my seedlings are having problems. Its a hydro setup, did give the resovoir a quick clean before starting again but it looks like nutrient burn?? PH is fine. Could it be I have not washed all old nutrient away?
Do you think the seedlings will pull through? The roots are growing and look ok and its just plain water at the moment

the first one is probably fucked. The second (larger of the two) probably not. Keep it on plain water for a minute. The problem comes into play with the short veg period with autos. If they do pull through they could wind up being tragically small due to being stunted as seedlings.

Endorium said:

Started a third batch a few days ago and my seedlings are having problems. Its a hydro setup, did give the resovoir a quick clean before starting again but it looks like nutrient burn?? PH is fine. Could it be I have not washed all old nutrient away?
Do you think the seedlings will pull through? The roots are growing and look ok and its just plain water at the moment

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I know you said the pH is fine, but just out of curiosity what is it? And I see no reason why either plant wont make it if taken care of just right. I have seen A LOT worse, those don't look that bad. They almost seem as if they got some moisture or water on them and got burned from the light. How close is the light? HPS or MH no doubt? Rockwool tends to have a higher pH of around 7 or something I think (dont quote me). And in a hydro setup...looks like bubbleponics....those things will catch right back up and take off faster than a soil plant will most times. Most autos tend to have a shorter flower period, not veg, veg can be roughly the same as a photo plant at times hence the big confusion of people saying they are worthless. i seen autos veg as long as 7 weeks before flowering, but flowering is where the time is usually cut in half. most autos finish in 3-6 weeks flowering while most photo plants are going to take 8 or more.

Ha auto heads hows trix, I have 2 super cali haze fem from short stuff seeds, they are 60 days old and have pre flowers but not flowering yet. I need them to flower because space is going to be tight. What can I do? I dont want to change the light cycle if I give them a high P nute will this help things along. Any wisdom you guys have I would realy be greatful.

irish farmer said:

Ha auto heads hows trix, I have 2 super cali haze fem from short stuff seeds, they are 60 days old and have pre flowers but not flowering yet. I need them to flower because space is going to be tight. What can I do? I dont want to change the light cycle if I give them a high P nute will this help things along. Any wisdom you guys have I would realy be greatful.

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If these girls are 60 days old and have not flowered yet they are not going to under their current light schedule. Switch them to 12/12 and leave them there for the rest of their grow cycle...if you switch back to 18/6 they will revert back to veg as they are not a stable auto strain...I learned this the hard way!!!!

If you check the description, the super autos from Short Stuff have an avg life span of 120 days so you're only half way there. They are designed to grow under any light schedule. I'd leave it be for another week then switch to 12-12 if you don't seen noticeable improvement. They are also goingt to get big man. almost as big as a photo period plant. Thats what they're designed to do.

Hoss summed it up well. they are one of the new "super auto" strains that are breed to grow bigger and live longer. If you don't have noticeable buds starting to form in the next 2-3 weeks, switch to 12/12 and leave it there.

Thanks joe blow for the adive.
Using a mixture of LED and CFL. It has been giving amazing results with the La Diva strain. Extremely dense buds
Lights are about 4 - 5 inches away. Just re-tested PH and its 6.5
Annoying as grown these a few times in this setup without a problem. Will leave them another week. If they dont pick up I will start again. The roots are doing well and growing fast (a good sign I guess) so hopefully they will shoot up soon.

Endorium said:

Thanks joe blow for the adive.
Using a mixture of LED and CFL. It has been giving amazing results with the La Diva strain. Extremely dense buds
Lights are about 4 - 5 inches away. Just re-tested PH and its 6.5
Annoying as grown these a few times in this setup without a problem. Will leave them another week. If they dont pick up I will start again. The roots are doing well and growing fast (a good sign I guess) so hopefully they will shoot up soon.

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No problem. Thats a good sign that the roots are growing too, but if you are running in a hydro setup and using the rockwool I would guess your problem could have started with the pH. When those little guys are in the rockwool the pH needs to be between 5.5 and 6.1 roughly. I would guess the high pH strained them a little and maybe caused a slight deficiency of Mg, Z, or Fe (trace elements, not a huge deal) because of it, but once they hit the res they should be good.

Thought I would post a few photos of my Double Diesel's from "Sag" since they are budding now. Got 4 different pheno's out of 5 beans. 2 of which have gotten quite large and branched a lot. One is tall, lanky, and thin with minimal branching. One has very thick short hairs with dense bud sites that almost look frosty. The other one has a massive amount of hairs that are very long. All of which looked the same up until budding besides the tall lanky one I nicknamed "runt" from the start.

Total of 40 Days Old / 10 Days into Flower

why are dr joint´s and lowlife seeds sold out everywhere?

Question guys. Im using biobizz all mix soil and biobizz grow and bloom and molasses. The leaves are starting to get yellow. All the leaves.

There is about 30 days left to chop and i was thinking of adding some epsom salt to the next feed. Do you think it might help?

love this threat!!!
first of all i would like to thank everyone who has been posting all the usefull information.
I have grown some LR2, Speed Devill and 60 Day Wonder plants recently and they all turned up great. These where the first auto plants i grew and i can easily say i am in love with the auto thing. I harvested all my plants at 70 days and have used the Canna line of nutrients (Bio Vega, Bio Flores, Rizotonic, Boost)i used a mixture of 60% organic soil and 40% perlite. I fed them with Super Thrive and Organic Molases once every 2 weeks. And i sprayed the plants with bio bizz leaf coat once a week and Halo once every 2 weeks. I had a shitty set up in the middle of my room with a 600 WHPS light and very little ventilation from 2 windows i left open during the day. Its such a cool thing that these plants have very short life cycles and they are very easy to take care of : )
After looking at all these wonderfull pictures i have decided to grow some more auto weed and i would like to ask you 2 questions before i begin buying nutrients.
1. Is it true that auto strains dont need vegetative nutrients?
been recently told that auto strains grown in soil dont really need vegetative nutrient and should be just fed with flowering nutrints and boost additives.
2. I can get a discount on all Advanced Nutrients products, so i am planing to use their line of nutrients for my next grow. My question is which ones should i get ( i know there is a lot of different combinations that can be used depending on money that can be spent and level of experience, but any suggestions would help)

sory for bad English : )

irishmc said:

Question guys. Im using biobizz all mix soil and biobizz grow and bloom and molasses. The leaves are starting to get yellow. All the leaves.

There is about 30 days left to chop and i was thinking of adding some epsom salt to the next feed. Do you think it might help?

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Could be a Mg deficiency but hard to tell with no pics.... I started using Jacks Classic Dynamic Duo and have not had a problem since....
http://www.jacksclassic.com/dynamic_duo.html

Hello, fellow auto lovers.. Ever since I grew my first auto (Himalyan Blue Diesel), I've been in love with them. I have some more seeds, Lowboldt,Afghan Kush Ryder,Smurfberry, and Double Diesel Ryder, but I'm waitng til the end of April to pop 'em.. I'm an outdoor grower at heart and I can't wait to see what these babies will do with natural light.

Which nutes would be better for my BHD, Auto assassin, and Onyx grow, Flora Nova Bloom, Fox Farm Big Bloom, or Biothrive?

Just planted a sugar mango rider and a smurfberry