The Atheist Experience

Hepheastus420 said:

Yeah I was blown away to when I found this out, lol. I'm waiting for them to discover more info, .

(aimed towards general viewers, not towards you dude>) I'm not saying this is evidence of god, I'm just saying don't automatically count out possibilities of things that just sound crazy.

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Right! I would go with the best evidence. These finding have not yet been peer reviewed and confirmed, just like the new nutrino's moving faster than light finding. Some of the news I've read about the nutrino's have phycisist's saying they believe it's an error in the procces. Great examples of science at work.

mindphuk said:

Actually this is incorrect. It is only very improbable due to the large number of particles required to simultaneously pop into existence but it can happen and in an infinite universe with infinite time, it WILL happen.

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Thanks for the correction, MP. Kind of like a quantum 'Ultimate 747' scenario? I can see an inanimate object popping into existence this way, even something with seemingly conscious design like a car or watch, but I was referring to conscious creatures. Even in a infinite universe with infinite time, is it possible for this to occur to form a living creature, with not only a a brain large enough to be sentient, but one with enough fully formed synaptic connections to actually BE conscious?

Hepheastus420 said:

Well yes both of us are correct. There's an infinite amount of carbon copies that apply to our laws of physics and other laws of physics.

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If there are carbon copies why can we not pop into existence in a far away galaxy and be gods or aliens to them? And If we could they could too and would know better.

mindphuk said:

Actually this is incorrect. It is only very improbable due to the large number of particles required to simultaneously pop into existence but it can happen and in an infinite universe with infinite time, it WILL happen.

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A physicists walks into a bar, sits down and orders two drinks. He sips one, and offers one to the empty stool next to him.
"Why the second drink?" asks the bartender.
The physicists replies "Quantum mechanics says it's possible for the matter above this stool to spontaneously form into a beautiful woman, and if that happens I want to offer her a drink so that she might fall in love with me."
The bartender motions to the rest of the patrons "There are plenty of women right here, why not ask one of them to have a drink and they might fall in love with you."
"Yeah right", replies the physicists, "What's the odds of that happening?"

Heisenberg went for a drive and got stopped by a traffic cop. The cop asked, "Do you know how fast you were going?" Heisenberg replied, "No, but I know where I am."

Then the money for the ticket spontaneously appeared in his hand and he though. What are the odds?

Ferrari's new 458 Italia has a satnav screen designed by Heisenberg. You can use it to track your location, or you can set it up as a digital speedo. cn

Two atoms were walking across a road when one of them said, "I think I lost an electron!" "Really!" the other replied, "Are you sure?" "Yes, I 'm absolutely positive."

A neutron walked into a bar and asked, "How much for a drink?" The bartender replied, "For you, no charge."

mexiblunt said:

If there are carbon copies why can we not pop into existence in a far away galaxy and be gods or aliens to them? And If we could they could too and would know better.

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No offense but I'm not really following your logic. <just had to say that before respond and just sound crazy.

If we were able to pop into existence somewhere then our carbon copies would be able to also. Now since we haven't found any other species (that us regular people know of) of aliens (yes I know there's other organisms that have been found, but I'm talking about carbon copies of humans or the stereotypical aliens) we can't say that one of their species can pop in and out of existence in other galaxies.

Ahh I'm so stoned, tired, and confused.
So let's say there's only two species in the world species A and species B. There's infinite carbon copies of both species A and species B.

Now then species A is us and species B is some other species we (hypothetically) found. We can't pop in and out of existence, so we wouldn't be able to that. But species B can pop in and out of existence into another galaxy. We would need to have the ability to pop into another galaxy in order to do that.
Honestly I don't even know what I'm talking about now, lol.


An exact carbon copy of myself wouldn't be able to come into contact with me because I can't come into contact with him.

I just didn't/don't see where carbon copies come from there being different laws of physics in different areas of the universe. I kinda thought the opposite actually.

cannabineer said:

Ferrari's new 458 Italia has a satnav screen designed by Heisenberg. You can use it to track your location, or you can set it up as a digital speedo. cn

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Heisenberg didn't like driving cars. Every time he looked at the speedometer he got lost.

mexiblunt said:

I just didn't/don't see where carbon copies come from there being different laws of physics in different areas of the universe. I kinda thought the opposite actually.

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Those two would both be possible together or by themselves. Like if there aren't any different laws of physics in the universe then we would still have carbon copies if the universe was infinite. Also if the universe wasn't infinite then we still could have different laws of physics in other parts of the universe.

As far as I know they don't have a huge impact on each other. At least not big enough of a impact to cause one of those possibilities to not exist.

heres some ted videos i watched today. thought id share since you're talkin about space and quantum stuff

http://www.ted.com/talks/brian_cox_on_cern_s_supercollider.html
http://www.ted.com/talks/richard_dawkins_on_our_queer_universe.html
http://www.ted.com/talks/patricia_burchat_leads_a_search_for_dark_energy.html
http://www.ted.com/talks/brian_greene_on_string_theory.html
this ones about synthetic life http://www.ted.com/talks/craig_venter_unveils_synthetic_life.html
this stuff is going to end up making really cool shit. they can make any shape out of strands of dna. http://www.ted.com/talks/paul_rothemund_details_dna_folding.html

for those who dont know about ted, if you click on 'talks' on the top of the page, that will take you to all the videos. theyve got tons of good ones

Luger187 said:

heres some ted videos i watched today. thought id share since you're talkin about space and quantum stuff

http://www.ted.com/talks/brian_cox_on_cern_s_supercollider.html
http://www.ted.com/talks/richard_dawkins_on_our_queer_universe.html
http://www.ted.com/talks/patricia_burchat_leads_a_search_for_dark_energy.html
http://www.ted.com/talks/brian_greene_on_string_theory.html
this ones about synthetic life http://www.ted.com/talks/craig_venter_unveils_synthetic_life.html
this stuff is going to end up making really cool shit. they can make any shape out of strands of dna. http://www.ted.com/talks/paul_rothemund_details_dna_folding.html

for those who dont know about ted, if you click on 'talks' on the top of the page, that will take you to all the videos. theyve got tons of good ones

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Thanks for listing these, Luger. I've been watching these TED videos for years, but there's some here I haven't seen...

tyler.durden said:

Thanks for listing these, Luger. I've been watching these TED videos for years, but there's some here I haven't seen...

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no problemo. i really like the dna folding one

heres one about spectroscopy and alien life http://www.ted.com/talks/garik_israelian_what_s_inside_a_star.html

complexity and history of the universe. hep, you should watch this http://www.ted.com/talks/david_christian_big_history.html

olylifter420 said:

man heis, you are the coolest... im glad you are soo cool!

you are the picabuche on here spewing your bullshit rhetoric on people who dont care about it...


tyler is such a douche as well... bunch bias freaks

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Bias to reality?

beef, they told you to put me on ignore... whats up with that?

reality is different for every individual. what makes yours or heis's reality better or different then mine or anyone elses'?

olylifter420 said:

beef, they told you to put me on ignore... whats up with that?

reality is different for every individual. what makes yours or heis's reality better or different then mine or anyone elses'?

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Reality is reality. Individual perceptions might differ but there can only be one version that is actually correct. And you know me oly, I will never put you on ignore.

BTW, I did answer that post that you asked me to some time ago in another thread. Did you ever see that?

New watcher here thanks a bunch

NO, i have not been able to get to it... ive been having some family stress man, my aunt is in her last days of life after fighting ovarian and uterine cancer that spread all over and then this asshole at a pc shop gave away my files to some dirt bag piece of shit asshole and now im in the process of getting it investigated as a theft crime... i got my own and client information on there, so im stressing pretty bad.. then i got like fucking 100 pages to read for american literature,, good thing i got some grapefruit killa killa kill kill smoke goodness that is God sent... other then that, its been normal...

Yes, but what does reality mean? A person suffering from some sort of mental health illness will most certainly have a different definition for reality, thus a different perception of acting differently then most.

there can only be one version that is actually correct.

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that can be false.. i was reading an interesting article my professor sent about psychology. In this study, researchers found that most studies done in the US do not or cannot apply to the rest of world and vice versa, making them somewhat bias to the demographic. This gets me back to reality and how an individual perceives it.. Mentioning the study, I think that would support my claims about reality being very different for each individual person.?

mindphuk said:

Reality is reality. Individual perceptions might differ but there can only be one version that is actually correct. And you know me oly, I will never put you on ignore.

BTW, I did answer that post that you asked me to some time ago in another thread. Did you ever see that?

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