The Benefits of Using a Grinder

Yep that's why you save it. You're right it downgrades it but when you save it up. It is upgraded. So yes it all evens out. But you can make hash with keif too. But overall it doesn't make your weed last longer

Thanks for the discussion fellas.. I'm gonna try it with the next batch, see what kind of time I save

I been reading this whole BS to find out how to make hash from keif or do u jus press it will it hold together.Cn anyone chime in on pressing keif (not bubble hash or anything like that) JUST WANT TO SMOKE MY KIEF THE MOST EFFEICIENT WAY POSSIBLE.

CannaChameleon said:

From secondary school physics (if i remember correctly) - reactions (including that of burning) happen faster when the matter has a larger surface area. A grinder maximizes the surface area by cutting up the bud and fluffing it out aswell, minimizing wasted material which is not burned. You also keep all the loose trichs contained within the grinder for use later, whereas with the finger method you loose stuff on your fingers, on the scissors, table etc.
I cant go without a grinder nowadays, nothing wrong with being lazy heaveykush!

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Right on, Using a grinder is much more efficient. When you get that stick icky shit you cant always break it up fine enough to burn evenly or even burn thoroughly at all with your fingys. Grinders > Fingers all day.

drcartman said:

Yep that's why you save it. You're right it downgrades it but when you save it up. It is upgraded. So yes it all evens out. But you can make hash with keif too. But overall it doesn't make your weed last longer

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No it does NOT downgrade your weed, rubbing your oily little fingers all over the delicate buds can though. The whole process serves to save that extra pollen in the bottom that you would otherwise lose to your fingers or other tools. Thats how I see it at least...

Grinder is the way to go. Everyone is talking about the keif, but by breaking up your buds with your fingers, all of those trichs will be broken and squished on your fingers. Now I'm not saying that I use a grinder every time, but in an ideal situation I would go with the grinder. No waste!

tip top toker said:

So you've removed the trichomes from the flower, and then just add it back in again afterwards? Certainly adding a whole bunch of them to a joint will get you higher, but in order to have that amount you would have removed it from other joints, it all evens out. It all evens out.

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Removing kief from your bud then sprinkling it back on later only "evens out" if absolutely ZERO trichromes are lost or damaged in the process.

The problem is that this isn't true.

In breaking up the trichromes into "kief" some will get oxidized and you will have chemical loss there. When grinding some kief will remain stuck in your grinder where you can't easily scrape it out, and it will be permanently lost when (if) you clean the grinder. Some kief grains will float into the air and/or get spilled when opening your grinder up or scraping.

Now maybe these forms of loss will be small, but they won't be zero, so my suggestion is, unless you are deliberately trying to concentrate kief to create a form of hash, there is no good reason to remove the trichromes from your bud.

Back on the original question, grinders do three things for you:

-They ensure a UNIFORM FINE GRIND.
-They're generally physically easier to use than chopping up the bud with scissors or the like, particularly with hard/dense bud.
-They may catch kief that could otherwise be lost when chopping manually.

Of these three things, I think the first is the most important.

If you're going to use a vaporizer, many of them simply won't function well unless the herb is finely ground. Its harder to do that with scissors than a good grinder, and it can be next to impossible with just fingers. Even if you're smoking a joint or bowl, the herb will burn more evenly, and stay lit better if its evenly and properly ground. Appropriately ground herb is also physically easier to roll and pack.

i just picked up a 4 piece grinder and am eager to take my first hit of pure kief in a couple weeks of collecting it. ive only used a grinder once or twice and i dont think ill go back after having one.

Grinders trap keif in the corners. I use a big glass cookie jar you can fit your hand into. Break it up inside the jar. that way all the kief can be picked up with your finger, then scrap your finger with a knife. it works great for shake. Just shake the jar and all the keif will stick to the sides. Wipe with your finger then scrap your finger into the bowl.

abrownmn said:

No it does NOT downgrade your weed, rubbing your oily little fingers all over the delicate buds can though. The whole process serves to save that extra pollen in the bottom that you would otherwise lose to your fingers or other tools. Thats how I see it at least...

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Yes it DOES lower the quality of the weed when you pound the shit out of it ! ....im not sure what ur smokin' but it does take some of the weeds power away


benefit of using a grinder?...everything burns evenly you dont waste as much weed and of course KEIF !

If you have compressed weed, I can see the benefit of a grinder. But for the bud I grow (and I assume everyone out there grows) there is no way a grinder will work. The buds are so damn sticky, they clog and stop the grinder right off the bat.
I can take a fresh cured nugget and gently twirl it between my thumb and forefinger, and it just falls apart into individual calyxes. That is what I pack the bowl with. I keep my daily supply of bud in a Kief box, and separate (break it down) it in the box. The box catches the kief in a drawer. I can even get a compressed nug to fall apart like that, it just takes a bit more effort.

Sticky icky wont clog a grinder. I have never seen or experienced that and I got some stickyyyyyyyyy many times

i use grinder mainly for trichome collection. Brush it all out into my bowl after. I find shot glass and scissors is great for collecting trichs too.

i have noticed that grinding up weed i end up smoking more because it burns faster then when i break it up with my fingers and pack a bowl. i still like my grinder because it burns real nice and even cause i mostly smoke by my self so i just load a fat rip every 2 hours or so

hell ya i love the kief also!!!!!!! also a grinder saves time its so much quicker and easier and there is no waste if your gettin dank all the time def get a grinder and check out all the kief you collect its so tasty when its kief from diff nugs that you have grinded up over time..

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increased surface area and consistency of texture create a better hit; as I see it.

drcartman said:

Sticky icky wont clog a grinder. I have never seen or experienced that and I got some stickyyyyyyyyy many times

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You sir, have never had the pleasure of good weed then


To combat this problem, I use an electric grinder.

I smoke weed from a bong, nothing else. I dont have time to constantly break up my weed by hand, nor can you break weed up by hand to a consistency efficient for a bong.

I get around 4 grams at a time and load it into my grinder. I push the button and 2 seconds(literally) later, I have fine(but not powdery by any means)bud ready to smoke. I dump that out on my tray, which all of you should have, and it stays there waiting to be packed into my bowl at any given moment.

When searching for a good electric grinder, dont be fooled, there are ones out there.
The kind you DO NOT WANT looks like this Notice it is VERY similar to a flashlight. This product is GARBAGE.

Now if you want a proper electric grinder, with enough power to obliterate 4 grams of the stickiest stuff youve got into a fine smokeable product within 2 seconds, then you need something more like this.(Aparrently there are no grinders like that that Im seeing online... My grinder looks more like this coffee grinder... .

The only time my gridner has EVER been clogged, was because the weed was wet never because it was simply sticky.

Exactly. And who are you to say I don't get good meds. Bet I get bomber shit then you

I apologize, I did not mean to come off as offensive. There is bud that is that sticky.

This is what I think Jack Harer meant:

When you grow your own weed, and do it well, considering genetics, you usually come out with a potent product.This product will be covered from head to toe with trichromes, and you as a grower handled it properly. Such as, only holding it by the stem, taking much care not to overly shake,jostle,compress or in any way touch your bud until it is smoked. You dryed and cured it correctly, so it isnt too wet, but it definitely isnt dry. When you have source material like this, I guarantee it will stick together in your average pawn shop grinder, and will give you a fit.

The bud Im speaking of is sticky enough to stick to your hand, and then you can press that onto something relatively heavy, like a Directv Remote, and pick it up with the bud. The stickiness is enough to adhere a directtv remote to your hand, but not sticky enough to stick together and clog a grinder? Im sorry, I just dont understand.