endogarden
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Church OG, Octopus, Grim Dawg, and Woody Kush all appear to be represented by a single image of the same nug. Wonder which one it is?
The Clubs, They Lie
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Dan Kone
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wow. it takes some real stupidity to make that ad. That's pretty bad. How hard is it to just take a picture of a different nug?I saw this ad for a local dispensary in the May 25 issue of Kush magazine. It perfectly illustrates what I've been saying, so I had to cut it out and have my neighbor scan it for me.
(Image has been cropped to hide the club's name. I'm not a complete asshole.)
Can you spot the funny?
panhead
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What an ignorant and pointless thread,somebody saw an advertisememt with multiple oversights and starts dreaming up all kind of shit .
The rumors that pass around,then get accepted as fact.then repeated as fact on this site never cease to amaze me,and all for the reason of just having something to post a thread about.
The OP of this thread is clueless,as are most club patrons,its not some simple ass task to just change the strain of a med on a whim all because its a slow mover this week.
When a distributer/vendor sells his meds to a club the meds dont magickly appear on the shelf for sale,ass loads of paper work has to be completed before anything is sold.
All meds are weighed,then cataloged along with the name of the strain as well as the vendors identification along with their card number,then a paper reciept is given to the vendor,now the meds can be sold.
The paper trail as well as computer files would all need to be changed , the club would also need to keep dozens of different sets of books in order to pull off a name change and not create a situation where the clubs day to day operations were put in serious jeopardy.
All this instead of simply taking the strain off the market until it becomes popular again in a few days,there is so much money being made just by following the rules that no club in their right mind would put so much effort into such an elaborte scam that has no reason to start with.
If your going to call foul atleast have the decency to come with real evidence, all i see is a few small time buyers speculating and accusing just so they have something to talk about.
For what its worth i own a large percentage of a club, as well as a delievery service for shut in's & the disabled.
The rumors that pass around,then get accepted as fact.then repeated as fact on this site never cease to amaze me,and all for the reason of just having something to post a thread about.
The OP of this thread is clueless,as are most club patrons,its not some simple ass task to just change the strain of a med on a whim all because its a slow mover this week.
When a distributer/vendor sells his meds to a club the meds dont magickly appear on the shelf for sale,ass loads of paper work has to be completed before anything is sold.
All meds are weighed,then cataloged along with the name of the strain as well as the vendors identification along with their card number,then a paper reciept is given to the vendor,now the meds can be sold.
The paper trail as well as computer files would all need to be changed , the club would also need to keep dozens of different sets of books in order to pull off a name change and not create a situation where the clubs day to day operations were put in serious jeopardy.
All this instead of simply taking the strain off the market until it becomes popular again in a few days,there is so much money being made just by following the rules that no club in their right mind would put so much effort into such an elaborte scam that has no reason to start with.
If your going to call foul atleast have the decency to come with real evidence, all i see is a few small time buyers speculating and accusing just so they have something to talk about.
For what its worth i own a large percentage of a club, as well as a delievery service for shut in's & the disabled.
Dan Kone
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I've seen that happen many many times. I've seen it happen with my own buds. Not a rumor, I'm positive this happens on a regular basis.
Ummm, no. A few clubs do it that way, but not all.
Not very many clubs track their meds on a computer. From what I've seen, only dispensaries using specialized dispensary POS software do this. That's not very many clubs. Most clubs use normal cash registers. POS software leaves clubs open to potential trouble from IRS auditing. Not all clubs want that detailed of a record of what they buy/sell. There are many reasons for this.
The reason is that it works. I've seen it work. I've seen a strain of mine that sat there for a month get a name change and sell out in a few days.
You know that is impossible to prove. It's not like you can start taking pictures of product in a dispensary. But I've seen proof first hand, more than once, and multiple clubs. Believe me or don't, that's up to you, but I know what I've seen first hand.
I think you have the club you work at confused with all dispensaries. I am 100% positive this happens and happens frequently.
d.s.m.
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It looks like I've somehow managed to hurt another complete stranger's feelings with this thread. I never planned on pissing anyone off, but I seem to keep making new enemies.
How's that quote go? "methinks doth protests too much"?
Look at the date of the picture, and look at the date I started this thread. Maybe you're reading it from last page to first?
The OP of this thread is actually pretty well acquainted with the mmj business. And if you're saying that it's no simple task to print up some new labels, then you're really insulting our intelligence here. Come on, man.
Horseshit. You record and report only as many transactions as you feel you need to, in case they ever ask to take a look at your books. This is fine, and I could give a shit less, in fact it's better for everyone that way. But in this thread, we know better, so save that shit and sell it to the tax man.
Again, horseshit. It's not elaborate, and it takes no effort at all to call sour diesel og kush, and have people believe it.
I've seen it with my own eyes. No speculation, just buds being straight up sold as another strain. I really wouldn't even care if you people weren't getting so obvious and obnoxious about it.
Well that certainly explains your hurt feelings, now doesn't it..
How's that quote go? "methinks doth protests too much"?
endogarden
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Someone just got schoolt. Just because you work at/own some of a legitimate club, doesn't make posters complaints and/or speculations/accusations incorrect, it just makes them incorrect if they were talking about YOUR associated club, which I don't think they were....
I think criticism can only be good, it causes people to re-evaluate situations and gain more knowledge. Don't hate, propagate.
I think criticism can only be good, it causes people to re-evaluate situations and gain more knowledge. Don't hate, propagate.
Dan Kone
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That's what it sounds like to me. Seems like this thread hit a little to close to home for someone.
Fadeleaf Farms
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Such a good point! I recently hit up one of my regular clubs, lets just say its in the bay and one of the oldest and most well repd clubs in CA. On the menu all at once was "All Star Romulan" for $60 an 1/8, "Romulan" for $55 an 1/8th and "Romulan Minis" for $25 an 1/8. Just my luck, I'm actually growing some Romulan at the moment (almost done!) so I had to at least take a good look at all of em.
All looked totally different but all did sorta have the trademark Romulan smell. I ended up buying the "All Star" stuff just so I can save a few nugs to see how my first grow stacks up against some $400 a zip club shit lol. I got it home and gave it a good through smokin, and well... its amazing... (as expected lol) but its also much sweeter tasting than I remember Romulan being the last few times I've bought it. I'm thinking it might be either a weird cross (Theres some mystery as far as romulan genetics I hear) or maybe its actually space queen or some other romulan relative.
My point is... yeah I think the clubs do kinda lie sometimes about what things are... sometimes its intentional and sometimes its not (they only have what the vendor says to go on usually), but the real thing I've learned is you gotta dive in and actually use your senses to decide whats what and also whats good and what somethings worth. Those Romulan mini's were most likely from the same crop as the $55 Romulan, but at less than half the price just cuz they were the mini nugs from the crop. I find its usually pretty easy to get a sweet deal on some fire if I use my brain and senses and ignore silly names and fads.
Dan Kone
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thump easy
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yes they do i southgate i have personaly seen the changing of names sometyms n in longbeach to two clubs but some of the shit just gets grown someone seed or hemies n they grow n their is no name but just daink then i understand but sometymes it dont come out looking the way it should so they rename it airy shit all kinds of shit YOUR DEALING WITH WEED n for them to just open the club they had to tweek it so what makes u think they aint gona tweek the name jajajaja
Porky B
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thump easy
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im sorry pork b im a tru drop out im still geting this computer thing down bear with me please ull learn to love me.
Katatawnic
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I still haven't even entered a dispensary yet. San Bernardino County won't allow them, and I'm unable to drive further than my own little town; and even then only on my "better" days. I started growing because I can't afford MMJ, so the only reason I'd have to walk into a dispensary would be to take in the sights/smells, or perhaps get some clones or seeds... though I haven't had any problem obtaining those without a dispensary yet. Hell, my son is bringing me clones from a strain I really liked later this week! (He's always bringing nugs of something really good from his town; and in his town it is all homegrown with care & love. "Top shelf," as the clubs say, but I mean truly top shelf quality. Immaculate.) He told the grower that I'm a 100% personal medical user, don't sell and don't share with anyone but family (I don't really have any friends that are into pot), and therefore his genetics and customers would be safe with me. He's very protective of his plants, but agreed to give me some clones anyway, for free, because he knows and trusts me son. (And this is among some of the best MJ that I've had, ever.)
I've been given bud and hash from dispensaries by a friend of my hubby as recently as a few months ago, as well as bought some club MMJ via friends who had cards and were able to travel several years ago... they were not any better in taste, smell, or quality than what I've been growing. Not "better" enough for me to notice any difference, including and especially pertaining to pain and insomnia. Certainly not "better" enough for me to even consider trying to come up with the money it would take for me to buy it. Back when street dealing was my only option, what I got was at least as good as what I've had from the dispensaries; often much better IMNSHO. Those buds just didn't come packaged in a pill bottle with a label on it.
Then I hear about (and have seen on TV documentaries about MMJ) people coming in and asking for advice as to which strain to use for this or that kind of pain/ailment, and the employees are talking as if they have medical authority... and of course it's always the most expensive items on the menu they'll tell you will work best for your kind of pain. I don't believe half the shit doctors say about drugs (due to personal experience and that of others), so why would I put trust in some guy who is nothing more than a salesman? Yes, strains differ in taste, smell, potency, and more or less effectiveness than other strains for differing ailments (i.e., pain & insomnia vs. pain while trying to stay awake), but these guys talk like they know the science of it all.
One of the biggest deals made over the start of the clubs was to provide affordable MMJ to sick people... yet it's at least as expensive as black market MMJ. Dispensaries weren't supposed to be about getting rich. They called it "Compassionate Care" for a reason. I'm not against making a profit, but IMNSHO the clubs (in general, at least) don't seem to be any better to me than Big Pharma.
Suffice it to say, though I used to wish there were dispensaries nearby, I don't give a rat's ass anymore. All I have to pay for my MMJ is a slightly raised electric bill (maybe $10 monthly tops), about $50 annually for coco coir, and about $30 annually for nutrients... about $200 a year! In exchange for that, I have all the smoke, vapor, edibles, capsules, and massage oil I need and then some. And though new strains interest me, I don't need them; I only get them when I have "extra" money... or when my son texts me and says to make room for five or six new ladies in my grow room.
I've been given bud and hash from dispensaries by a friend of my hubby as recently as a few months ago, as well as bought some club MMJ via friends who had cards and were able to travel several years ago... they were not any better in taste, smell, or quality than what I've been growing. Not "better" enough for me to notice any difference, including and especially pertaining to pain and insomnia. Certainly not "better" enough for me to even consider trying to come up with the money it would take for me to buy it. Back when street dealing was my only option, what I got was at least as good as what I've had from the dispensaries; often much better IMNSHO. Those buds just didn't come packaged in a pill bottle with a label on it.
Then I hear about (and have seen on TV documentaries about MMJ) people coming in and asking for advice as to which strain to use for this or that kind of pain/ailment, and the employees are talking as if they have medical authority... and of course it's always the most expensive items on the menu they'll tell you will work best for your kind of pain. I don't believe half the shit doctors say about drugs (due to personal experience and that of others), so why would I put trust in some guy who is nothing more than a salesman? Yes, strains differ in taste, smell, potency, and more or less effectiveness than other strains for differing ailments (i.e., pain & insomnia vs. pain while trying to stay awake), but these guys talk like they know the science of it all.
One of the biggest deals made over the start of the clubs was to provide affordable MMJ to sick people... yet it's at least as expensive as black market MMJ. Dispensaries weren't supposed to be about getting rich. They called it "Compassionate Care" for a reason. I'm not against making a profit, but IMNSHO the clubs (in general, at least) don't seem to be any better to me than Big Pharma.
Suffice it to say, though I used to wish there were dispensaries nearby, I don't give a rat's ass anymore. All I have to pay for my MMJ is a slightly raised electric bill (maybe $10 monthly tops), about $50 annually for coco coir, and about $30 annually for nutrients... about $200 a year! In exchange for that, I have all the smoke, vapor, edibles, capsules, and massage oil I need and then some. And though new strains interest me, I don't need them; I only get them when I have "extra" money... or when my son texts me and says to make room for five or six new ladies in my grow room.
thump easy
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^^^^^^ wow oils for massage i gota make that nevor herd of that i give a great back rub n foot too. im look on you tube.
Katatawnic
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Just look up the cooking oil threads here in the "Cooking with Cannabis" forum, if you haven't made canna oil before. It's the exact same process, except it's good to use oils like avocado, joboba, coconut, sweet almond, etc. Actually, mixing up the oils that are often used for body lotions and massage oils can be fun... I still try out different combinations. 
Oh, and I make oil the crock pot / slow cooker way. Takes longer, but it's a LOT less work.
Oh, and I make oil the crock pot / slow cooker way. Takes longer, but it's a LOT less work.
endogarden
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uyakbay
Active Member
Why we have a private collective. After 35 years being around, our growers have been with us for 35 years. Tight group, and the medicine is constant. We are always looking for good patients who want privacy, with donations from 35-40 for everything we grow. Our Sour Diesel is one of our specialty. We are not into this for money, that is what gets me about the dispensaries, it is all about the mighty dollar. They are very commercial. All our grows are organic. Our goal is to get the donation to our members below 175. I wonder how low a dispensary can go? They have over head we do not. You walk into a great shop with all the bells and whistles, you are paying a price for it. I see friends who are not part of our group donating 10.00 more for similar medicine, why would anyone do it. My GOD all the names, how many OGS are out there? I have seen the same OG renamed 10 different ways.
jpnspec
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lol, the all star gave it away!
I know exactly what club you're talking about.