The Coming Of Cheesus

Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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vapedup said:
I wouldn't top if I was u, u said u were gonna lst? That's the best way to go, people think when u top, u get more colas, this is false. U just chopped a finger off, I know some will disaggree, and it IS a matter of opinion, but his is a fact, u top, u lose a cola, its about light, and ligt reflection to get good buds all around. u could have as many colas as u want, with the right light, NO TOPPING! :)
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I'm debating on the lst at this point. shes so squat and bushy not many long branches to tie down. probably just top for two main colas.

Yes if you top you lose A cola but you gain TWO to FOUR because of the redistribution of hormones etc. With my sub par lighting (T5's and cfl) its probably better to just top for two trim the lower third that won't get alot of light and try for large dense main buds. but i see where your coming from bro.
 
Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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DSCN0985.jpgDSCN0987.jpgDSCN0986.jpgDSCN0984.jpgSo I decided to top her for two instead of four. Continue veg until shes at least a foot. Lots of time to veg for my time frame on this grow. Just to see how well she takes to cloning I took the top dipped it in some clonex and put it under the dome.
Put some pics of the roots up next time, Voodoo juice working wonders.

Temp: 75-79
RH: Think its broken :(
Res Temp: 64
PH: 5.7 (oddly hasn't moved in days, unusual from the ph swings i had before. Meter is working fine so...)
PPM: 313 dropping about twenty or thirty points a day I think.
 
vapedup

vapedup

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Tru, I don't think the cfl's will get much light penetration, but when u do go with HID don't cut ur plant, its alive rather u believe so or not, imagine if I cut ur top off! Lol! I got so many colas on my jack, never cut, just simple LSThas like 6. Or 7
 
Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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vapedup said:
Tru, I don't think the cfl's will get much light penetration, but when u do go with HID don't cut ur plant, its alive rather u believe so or not, imagine if I cut ur top off! Lol! I got so many colas on my jack, never cut, just simple LSThas like 6. Or 7
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Youve got a point. I definitely want to try a proper lst for once. Bought a 600 watter just gotta wait for a proper room to hook it up in.
 
Niko Bellick

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drgreentm said:
beautiful plant niko great job so far, gotta love that vibrant green:)
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Yeah she has a nice color for sure. Can't wait to catch the smells in the next cpl months. Color came back immediately after upping the ppm. Don't know how much its helping but im using a 2700k cfl on the side for a mixed spectrum approach.
 
3eyes

3eyes

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Niko Bellick said:
Okay you three seem to know about dual arc. Does it require anything special ballast wise or is dual arc just the type of bulb that I would buy?
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The bulbs i was using are not dual arc their dual spectrum they have almost equal parts of blue and red spectrum but i'm changing things up a little this time i just bought 2 phillips son T pia green power 600w lamps for flowering supposed to be the best on the market specifically developed for horticultural uses and is said to have good penetration through the canopy, well there's only 1 way to find out so watch this space.........
 
vapedup

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The bulbs i was using are not dual arc their dual spectrum they have almost equal parts of blue and red spectrum but i'm changing things up a little this time i just bought 2 phillips son T pia green power 600w lamps for flowering supposed to be the best on the market specifically developed for horticultural uses and is said to have good penetration through the canopy, well there's only 1 way to find out so watch this space.........[/QUOTE]
Where did u get the phillips bulbs from? And the what was the price? I think these are the best bulbs on the market as well
 
Niko Bellick

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3eyes said:
The bulbs i was using are not dual arc their dual spectrum they have almost equal parts of blue and red spectrum but i'm changing things up a little this time i just bought 2 phillips son T pia green power 600w lamps for flowering supposed to be the best on the market specifically developed for horticultural uses and is said to have good penetration through the canopy, well there's only 1 way to find out so watch this space.........
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ohhh dual SPECTRUM. So again lol its just a type of bulb that dual spectrum is? no special ballast. Woah sounds sweet whered you get the new lights at?
 
vapedup

vapedup

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but that's just a 400w mh and a 600w hps in one tube, the one I'm talkin about is a hps with more blue in the spectrum as well, like 30% more than other dual spec bulbs, so they say
 
3eyes

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I got them from my local hydro store they we're £40 each but i get discount so had them for £35 each
 
Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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3eyes said:
I got them from my local hydro store they we're £40 each but i get discount so had them for £35 each
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Now are you using these dual arc bulbs all the way through the grow or just for flower?

Damn now its between Ceramic metal halide and dual arc after doing alil research.
 
vapedup

vapedup

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Niko, check out a dual SPECTRUM buld, its like a dual arc but not, its a HPS that has a rasied BLUE spectrum in it, id rather have a 1000w of one of those than. A 1000w (600hps, 400wmh) dual spectrum bulb, just my preference, I'm gonna get one on my next round
 
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