The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out

One of the many things that people are overlooking is that there is a sizable federal agency that seems perfectly happy executing orders that closely mimic nazi concentration camps and immigration policies (short of holocaust anyway, well, at least for now).

Not a single child would be mistreated if there weren't federal employees willing to follow orders. Orders that clearly bring trauma and emotional pain to children. They even mock them.

So when you smugly think there is no way the military would back trump, remember there are always people willing to follow orders rather than face the consequences of objecting.

ICE officers have the same protections soldiers do. They can refuse to follow an order they believe to be illegal or immoral.

It seems they chose not to use those protections.

greg nr said:

One of the many things that people are overlooking is that there is a sizable federal agency that seems perfectly happy executing orders that closely mimic nazi concentration camps and immigration policies (short of holocaust anyway, well, at least for now).

Not a single child would be mistreated if there weren't federal employees willing to follow orders. Orders that clearly bring trauma and emotional pain to children. They even mock them.

So when you smugly think there is no way the military would back trump, remember there are always people willing to follow orders rather than face the consequences of objecting.

ICE officers have the same protections soldiers do. They can refuse to follow an order they believe to be illegal or immoral.

It seems they chose not to use those protections.

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Human nature, read and weep and why good, honest, responsible government is crucial.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
The Milgram experiment on obedience to authority figures was a series of social psychology experiments conducted by Yale University psychologist Stanley Milgram. They measured the willingness of study participants, men from a diverse range of occupations with varying levels of education, to obey an authority figure who instructed them to perform acts conflicting with their personal conscience. Participants were led to believe that they were assisting an unrelated experiment, in which they had to administer electric shocks to a "learner." These fake electric shocks gradually increased to levels that would have been fatal had they been real.[2]

The experiment found, unexpectedly, that a very high proportion of men would fully obey the instructions, albeit reluctantly. Milgram first described his research in a 1963 article in the Journal of Abnormal and Social Psychology[1] and later discussed his findings in greater depth in his 1974 book, Obedience to Authority: An Experimental View.[3]

The experiments began in July 1961, in the basement of Linsly-Chittenden Hall at Yale University,[4] three months after the start of the trial of German Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann in Jerusalem. Milgram devised his psychological study to answer the popular contemporary question: "Could it be that Eichmann and his million accomplices in the Holocaust were just following orders? Could we call them all accomplices?"[5] The experiment was repeated many times around the globe, with fairly consistent results.
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What took him so long? That's right he's rolling over on Donald! Such an upstanding citizen to have incharge of the finances of a major political party. Between characters like this and Donald's increasing legal expenses, I don't think the GOP will have any money left in November. I wonder what they will find when they lift that particular rock up, what's gonna squirm in the heat of sunlight.
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Michael Cohen resigns from RNC committee post, sources say
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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-cohen-resigns-rnc-committee-post/story?id=56033406

Michael Cohen, President Trump’s longtime confidant and former personal attorney, has resigned from his post as deputy finance chair of the Republican National Committee's Finance Committee, sources close to the RNC told ABC News.
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greg nr said:

One of the many things that people are overlooking is that there is a sizable federal agency that seems perfectly happy executing orders that closely mimic nazi concentration camps and immigration policies (short of holocaust anyway, well, at least for now).

Not a single child would be mistreated if there weren't federal employees willing to follow orders. Orders that clearly bring trauma and emotional pain to children. They even mock them.

So when you smugly think there is no way the military would back trump, remember there are always people willing to follow orders rather than face the consequences of objecting.

ICE officers have the same protections soldiers do. They can refuse to follow an order they believe to be illegal or immoral.

It seems they chose not to use those protections.

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And since we know that police departments don't even interview a candidate for the job if his IQ is too high, I assume that they want idiots that will blindly follow orders. It's safe to assume they probably do the same at the federal level for the same reason.

Jake Tapper: Trump surrendered for the first time
CNN's Jake Tapper breaks down President Donald Trump's decision to back down from his administration's practice of separating immigrant families at the US-Mexico border.

DIY-HP-LED said:

Jake Tapper: Trump surrendered for the first time

CNN's Jake Tapper breaks down President Donald Trump's decision to back down from his administration's practice of separating immigrant families at the US-Mexico border.

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"Anyone with a heart feels very strongly about it"

It was your fucking idea Trump, you dick.

I bet Miller was/is shitting himself eating lunch today, his idea to separate children from their parents was probably the worst advice Trump's gotten so far and Trump loves to hate people he feels intentionally or unintentionally wronged him.

And with Trump's list of fuck ups so far for it to be the worst advice...damn that's special.

Two notable things about trumps order: 1) it's a pause, not a permanent action, and 2), any children currently in jail will stay there. One of the issues the next administration will have is that ICE kept no records of whose children were taken, or even what the children's names and parents names are.

How is a 2 year old going to be able to tell investigators who they are, let alone who their parents are? They will need a dna registry just to try to reassemble families. In far too many cases, the separations will be permanent, and the children will grow up orphans in the cold custody of a jail.

greg nr said:

Two notable things about trumps order: 1) it's a pause, not a permanent action, and 2), any children currently in jail will stay there. One of the issues the next administration will have is that ICE kept no records of whose children were taken, or even what the children's names and parents names are.

How is a 2 year old going to be able to tell investigators who they are, let alone who their parents are? They will need a dna registry just to try to reassemble families. In far too many cases, the separations will be permanent, and the children will grow up orphans in the cold custody of a jail.

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they will be fostered or adopted eventually. and in the long run, they will get to stay in america. the youngest ones will fare better than the ones that will remember.

donald trump is piece of shit and so are his low-life supporters.

time to take out the WHITE TRASH again... 55% of republicans support this behavior. who raised these assholes !!!!! nazis?

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who raised these assholes !!!!! nazis?

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There's a Time cover that Trump can frame and hang in his office. It will be made into a devastating election poster to use against the republicans in the midterms.

One other effect of this image is that it's gonna make a lot of good folks cry and so it should. Just remember the child in this picture did not return to the comforting arms of her mother, but ended up in a cage, where she probably still is. She's probably still crying too and will for a long time to come.

greg nr said:

Two notable things about trumps order: 1) it's a pause, not a permanent action, and 2), any children currently in jail will stay there. One of the issues the next administration will have is that ICE kept no records of whose children were taken, or even what the children's names and parents names are.

How is a 2 year old going to be able to tell investigators who they are, let alone who their parents are? They will need a dna registry just to try to reassemble families. In far too many cases, the separations will be permanent, and the children will grow up orphans in the cold custody of a jail.

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You'll end up with the international red cross, the UN and other humanitarian NGOs demanding access to the children, America what have you become?

Trump reluctantly signed a weasel worded piece of paper under enormous social pressure with no good will or intent behind it. I'd put as much faith in it as in any other Trump contract, none, good faith, contracts and promises are not possible with this person any more than they were with Hitler.

The evil that men do can out live them and this is an example. Infants and toddlers need to be held and loved, it is essential to their social and emotional development and you don't get a second chance. These are wounds inflicted on children that won't go away, permanent damage has been done already.

I feel a great crime has been committed here and someone must pay a steep price for this unnecessary human tragedy.

when you look at fascist regimes and see the police and army doing things we know are just wrong, like rounding up jewish kids, knowing they're going to die, and beating reporters, taking children and all the other shit that's just wrong, you ask yourself why, don't they know this is wrong? but they are caught up in the ideology of that one person who tells them he will make it right and it is literally controlling the masses through the illiterate. We used to be amused by all these 'Bubbas', well, never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. because in their mind - he's just doing what he said he'd do. they don't know what it's like to be an immigrant because they never were - their parents were the immigrants.

Joe: This Was A Decision President Donald Trump And Jeff Sessions Made | Morning Joe | MSNBC
After an enormous public outcry, President Donald Trump on Wednesday signed an executive order to end the separation of families at the U.S. border yet the order doesn't address the more than 2,300 children separated from their families. The panel discusses.

GOP strategist Steve Schmidt DENOUNCES Party, WILL Vote for Democrats
Republican strategist Steve Schmidt, one of the GOP's loudest critics of President Trump, renounced the party early Wednesday and announced that he will begin voting for Democrats.

Schmidt slammed Trump in a Twitter thread, saying he was leaving the party that once ended slavery.

“29 years and nine months ago I registered to vote and became a member of The Republican Party which was founded in 1854 to oppose slavery and stand for the dignity of human life,” Schmidt tweeted.

“Today I renounce my membership in the Republican Party. It is fully the party of Trump,” he added.

Trump's Executive Order To Undo An Executive Failure
Donald Trump did the impossible. In that, he said it was impossible to end his own policy of cruelly separating families at the border until, for political reasons, he was forced to.

So we have an institutional policy of taking children and babies away from their parents, anonomizing them, and awarding no-bid contracts to unknown companies to jail them until they can be transitioned through adoption agencies (for profit) like the one owned by betsy devos brother.

And a third of the country is ok with that. Happy about it even. Deplorables. Every one.


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Bethany Adoption Agency's Senior Vice President for Child and Family Services is... Brian DeVos. https://www.facebook.com/bethanyfans/posts/10152916365171960 …

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Currently, Michigan's Bethany Adoption Agency has 81 children who have been forcibly separated from their parents. https://www.wzzm13.com/article/news/local/michigan/bethany-christian-services-providing-foster-homes-for-81-children-due-to-border-crisis/69-565745151 …

In 2013, Betsy DeVos donated $300,000 to Bethany after the agency claimed religious exemption https://www.wzzm13.com/article/news/local/michigan/bethany-christian-services-providing-foster-homes-for-81-children-due-to-border-crisis/69-565745151 …

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Bethany Adoption Agency's Senior Vice President for Child and Family Services is... Brian DeVos.

They took the time to plan ahead to line the pockets of contributors and associates (likely with kickbacks to donald ducks as well), but intentionally had no plan to keep track of who the kids belong to....

Businesses Received Federal Contracts to Care for Migrant Children
Source: Wall Street Journal

In the months before the Trump administration began its “zero-tolerance” policy that resulted in the separation of families at the Mexican border, the government awarded a flurry of contracts and grants to private companies and nonprofits to help run facilities for migrant children around the country.

Read more: https://www.wsj.com/articles/nonprofits-other-businesses-getting-millions-in-federal-contracts-to-care-for-migrant-children-1529596377?tesla=y&mod=article_inline

womp womp....

Corey Lewandowski dropped by speakers bureau
Source: CNN

Former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski has been dropped by his speakers bureau after dismissing the story of a 10-year-old girl with Down syndrome who was reportedly separated from her mother after crossing the border illegally, CNN has learned.

Leading Authorities, Inc., one of Washington DC's top speakers bureaus, severed ties with Lewandowski on Wednesday, a source familiar with the matter said. His name no longer appears on the bureau's website.

Speakers bureaus like LAI handle speaking gigs for notable political and media personalities, which can be a lucrative business. Speakers can net five- or even six-figure checks for one engagement.

Lewandowski has drawn widespread criticism for remarks he made on Fox News on Tuesday. When former senior Democratic National Committee adviser Zac Petkanas talked about "a 10-year-old girl with Down syndrome" who had been "taken from her mother and put in a cage," Lewandowski dismissed the anecdote, saying, "Womp womp."

Read more: http://money.cnn.com/2018/06/21/media/corey-lewandowski-speakers-bureau/index.html

Well it's the first day of summer and Donald is still around, if your society and country was functioning anywhere near normal Donald would be just a bad memory and convicted felon severing time by now. I just didn't figure on members of congress betraying their oaths to the constitution, country and constituents so flagrantly and completely. The GOP is completely owned by a radical cult like minority of Trump worshipers and it's do Donald's bidding or die. It's only between their primaries and election day they can assert themselves and go against Trump. After election day there might be a few who will be more independent from Trump and a little bit pissed about being unemployed after january.

The public needs to administer a little "shock and awe" to Trump and the GOP, get Donald planning that one way trip to moscow before january. If ya were really lucky, or Mueller was clever, he could be spooked to run before the election, that should finish the GOP and Pence too. It would be humiliating, but the fastest way to get back on track as a country.