The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out

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DIY-HP-LED

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peabody2018 said:
So I’m the only one that gets that? Does that mean everyone else has to leave the country?
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Last time I checked he was POTUS of all the American people, commander and chief and was the puppet of a guy who has thousands of nukes pointed at you. He is also deeply flawed as a human being to the point where he is unfit for the office he treasonously conspired with a foreign adversary to cheat his way into.

The long and short is the guy is a real and present danger.
 
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peabody2018

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Last time I checked he was POTUS of all the American people, commander and chief and was the puppet of a guy who has thousands of nukes pointed at you. He is also deeply flawed as a human being to the point where he is unfit for the office he treasonously conspired with a foreign adversary to cheat his way into.

The long and short is the guy is a real and present danger.
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Oh, an answer to a question nobody asked!
 
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DIY-HP-LED said:
Looks like the Dems figure Trump might make a move on Rosenstein/Mueller soon, we will see where Sessions stands. Dunno why they think this or what they know, but they think something might happen during the congressional break. Donald ain't having any luck getting a lawyer in a town full of them, looks like he's screwing up his defence too. It speaks volumes when not even a lawyer wants anything to do with him, that's low!
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Rachel maddow is highlighting the tillis/coons memo along with a letter from 9 dems on the senate intelligence committee asking the next 5 doj officials in line after rosenstein to pledge not to interfere with muehler.

Congress is on break and won't be back for a week or two. Trump can't find a legal team and is losing his mind that muehler is going to get him. He is apparently talking to anyone he can reach on the phone asking if he can get away with firing muehler.

The game, as they say , is afoot. Or is it afoul?

there was never really any question whether trump would fire muehler. the only real question is what, if any, traps does muehler have set if he does.

He might not have anything except a bluff and a few states that will take up charges. But the bulk of his case depends on the deals he has cut with witnesses, and those are federal charges and agreements. The states may have very little to charge if the feds step out of it.

Trump can have any existing indictments, secret or otherwise, dismissed.

I really hope muehler has a secret court order preventing his firing. He possibly could get that since the person dismissing him is the target of an investigation and indictments are iminent. Thus, firing him would be obstruction of justice.

It's a reach. There are a hundred reasons that wouldn't hold up under appeal. It's thin broth to be sure.
 
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greg nr said:
Rachel maddow is highlighting the tillis/coons memo along with a letter from 9 dems on the senate intelligence committee asking the next 5 doj officials in line after rosenstein to pledge not to interfere with muehler.

Congress is on break and won't be back for a week or two. Trump can't find a legal team and is losing his mind that muehler is going to get him. He is apparently talking to anyone he can reach on the phone asking if he can get away with firing muehler.

The game, as they say , is afoot. Or is it afoul?

there was never really any question whether trump would fire muehler. the only real question is what, if any, traps does muehler have set if he does.

He might not have anything except a bluff and a few states that will take up charges. But the bulk of his case depends on the deals he has cut with witnesses, and those are federal charges and agreements. The states may have very little to charge if the feds step out of it.

Trump can have any existing indictments, secret or otherwise, dismissed.

I really hope muehler has a secret court order preventing his firing. He possibly could get that since the person dismissing him is the target of an investigation and indictments are imminent. Thus, firing him would be obstruction of justice. If he fires Jeff or Rosenstein, they will be before congress the next day.

It's a reach. There are a hundred reasons that wouldn't hold up under appeal. It's thin broth to be sure.
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I figure Donald will make his move soon, if Sessions objects or refuses to fire Rosenstein, it means he cut a deal with Mueller. I believe congress is still technically in session so he can't make a recess appointment. Like I said, I figure Mitch wants him to walk into a trap, so he can do him before the midterms, might force Mueller to act.

Mueller has the best legal help and advice in the nation, everything has been planned out to account for this probable outcome, we will soon see, it won't be long now.

If they shut down the investigation all bets are off cause I think the lid would come off American society too.
 
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greg nr

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DIY-HP-LED said:
I figure Donald will make his move soon, if Sessions objects or refuses to fire Rosenstein, it means he cut a deal with Mueller. I believe congress is still technically in session so he can't make a recess appointment. Like I said, I figure Mitch wants him to walk into a trap, so he can do him before the midterms, might force Mueller to act.

Mueller has the best legal help and advice in the nation, everything has been planned out to account for this probable outcome, we will soon see, it won't be long now.
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First, he doesn't need to fire rosenstein. He can simply fire muehler. He, and he alone, determines executive branch policy and he can change existing doj rules at any time. As long as there is no over riding legislation, he is free to run the executive branch. Since the special prosecutor law expired (the gop blocked renewal), muehler operates as a special counsel, which exists under doj rules. Rules that the potus has the power to alter any time he wants.

Secondly, he doesn't need a recess appointment. Under the federal vacancies act of (I think) 1999, he can move any existing cabinet level director into the position of us ag for 150 days without confirmation. Bang. Done.

If he gets away wit either replacing sessions or firing muehler, the threat to him, his family, and his business (as well as to the gop and nra) is largely over. It just goes away. Nothing to see here, no collusion; prove it.
 
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greg nr said:
First, he doesn't need to fire rosenstein. He can simply fire muehler. He, and he alone, determines executive branch policy and he can change existing doj rules at any time. As long as there is no over riding legislation, he is free to run the executive branch. Since the special prosecutor law expired (the gop blocked renewal), muehler operates as a special counsel, which exists under doj rules. Rules that the potus has the power to alter any time he wants.

Secondly, he doesn't need a recess appointment. Under the federal vacancies act of (I think) 1999, he can move any existing cabinet level director into the position of us ag for 150 days without confirmation. Bang. Done.

If he gets away wit either replacing sessions or firing muehler, the threat to him, his family, and his business (as well as to the gop and nra) is largely over. It just goes away. Nothing to see here, no collusion; prove it.
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He's got the power to wipe away the regulations governing the justice department and fire anybody in the executive branch, if he were competent enough. The levers of power are only effective if ya know how to use them. It's up to Mitch and Paul, it always has been, they keep him in power and so far are in the thrall of the base. If as I think, they are setting a trap for him, then they will impeach when he acts and causes a crises. They can't sweep this one under the rug, treason by the POTUS and russian interference in the election are way to big for that, the GOP would crack wide open.

Right now he can't even find a lawyer, but 42% approve of the job he's doing!
Even after being a fugitive in moscow for a year and going on national TV to call his fans suckers, he'd still have a 20% popularity.
 
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we have to find a way to make trump voters pay for their decision. make them pay an extra 10% on income tax or something. better yet, offer them a one-way ticket to Guyana... fuck those losers that still support this god damn mad-man !!!!!
 
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Sour Wreck said:
we have to find a way to make trump voters pay for their decision. make them pay an extra 10% on income tax or something. better yet, offer them a one-way ticket to Guyana... fuck those losers that still support this god damn mad-man !!!!!
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Being that fucking stupid is punishment enough, life must be hard for them and it's probably not the first time they've been conned and fucked over. The trouble is, this time they took the rest of us with them into stupidville and we'll be lucky to come out in one piece or even alive!
 
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Robert Mueller Pities The Fool
Some believe the special counsel's 'A team' has concerns about Trump's inability to assemble 'a team' to defend him.
 
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peabody2018

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Sour Wreck said:
we have to find a way to make trump voters pay for their decision. make them pay an extra 10% on income tax or something. better yet, offer them a one-way ticket to Guyana... fuck those losers that still support this god damn mad-man !!!!!
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Tax voters if they disagree with you? You are a Facist
 
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