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ganjaluvr

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Was a bit brite this day to get good pics I guess I woke up early

Is anyone following this story?
My man, those bitches are going to be MONSTERS! Jeeezus.. look at the size of that top preflower in that one pic! Jeez. I'm going to have to think about doing an outdoor grow next year. Think its too this year, already missed the planting window. I'm for sure going to do an outdoor grow next season... its hard to outgrow a plant that's grown outside in its natural environment. You can come close with indoor grows.. but when it comes to having just rediculous sized monster buds.. outdoors is unbeatable.

Keep up the good work buddy.. I'll be checking up on this one for sure.

peace..
 

TCurtiss

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I lost my lab this year in Feb and as I come across these pics it both makes me sad and happy he was such a great dog.
I miss ya boy
Good lookin dog, my bro has one just like him

Lots of energy

I am sure he is in a better place now
 

subcool

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This is the story of Jack the Ripper and it is a fine example of what can happen along the way during a breeding project. I have always wanted to have Jacks Cleaner in seed form. I have been prompted to Self her using STS but I don’t believe in that type of breeding I feel a male plays a vital role in breeding projects. About 6 years ago I used a Blueberry to outcross the Jacks Cleaner to. Bushy Old Grower used some of these seeds to create the famous lifesaver. Two years ago I used the Jacks Cleaner x Blueberry to back cross the Jacks Cleaner to and created Jacks Cleaner back cross. Lost yet? I’ll try and untangle this mess as we continue on this journey.
Even though the JC bx kicks ass, has won awards and is used in breeding projects it was not what I was looking for. Also about that time I ran Vic’s Space Queen and found it to be some of the best weed I ever smoked. We also found an amazing Space Queen male that Jill used to create Jillybean and we used to create Spacejill. It was not an easy decision but we decided after working with Space Dude he was a much better choice for a parent to outcross Jacks Cleaner to and re started completely over passing on the Jacks Cleaner back cross and Jacks Cleaner Blueberry to other members of TGA.
 

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subcool

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This is the story of Jack the Ripper and it is a fine example of what can happen along the way during a breeding project. I have always wanted to have Jacks Cleaner in seed form. I have been prompted to Self her using STS but I don’t believe in that type of breeding I feel a male plays a vital role in breeding projects. About 6 years ago I used a Blueberry to outcross the Jacks Cleaner to. Bushy Old Grower used some of these seeds to create the famous lifesaver. Two years ago I used the Jacks Cleaner x Blueberry to back cross the Jacks Cleaner to and created Jacks Cleaner back cross. Lost yet? I’ll try and untangle this mess as we continue on this journey.
Even though the JC bx kicks ass, has won awards and is used in breeding projects it was not what I was looking for. Also about that time I ran Vic’s Space Queen and found it to be some of the best weed I ever smoked. We also found an amazing Space Queen male that Jill used to create Jillybean and we used to create Spacejill. It was not an easy decision but we decided after working with Space Dude he was a much better choice for a parent to outcross Jacks Cleaner to and re started completely over passing on the Jacks Cleaner back cross and Jacks Cleaner Blueberry to other members of TGA.
 

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subcool

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We used our standard breeding methods and completed the project on schedule and promptly started a test run of these new seeds. One weird trait of this new hybrid is twin seedlings. Many growers have reported duel sprouts form one seed but it’s normal for one not to survive when this occurs. All the seeds were started using rapid rooters with no pre soaking. I like to be as rough as possible and I never pamper test runs, once seedlings came up and developed nice roots I transplanted them into 1 gallon containers and placed under a 400 watt Metal halide light. Once the plants matured the males were taken to a separate area and the best possible females were tagged and the rest tossed. We ended up with 3 females we felt met or selection criteria. The plants were topped and trained and vegged for about 45 days and reached a size of 24” with multiple growing heads.
Once in bud the plants quickly started swelling with buds and by day 25 copious amounts of resin had become visible. Once in bud things got interesting when we had visible resin at just 2 weeks of budding and by week 3 we had a nice build up of trichomes and the first hints of the Lemon smell I was looking for.
 

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subcool

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One of the female plants stretched so much I had to bend her severely to keep her close to equal to the rest of the crop. Even the lower buds drip with resin and I am happy to report the mango lemon smell I was looking for I nailed it dead center. Normally I top all plants in our garden but with test plants it takes up less room if I leave them un topped and as I usually am moving them about a lot taking pictures and such it just makes them more manageable.

You can see in the picture the plants developed nicely grown in only my own super soil and in a 5 gallon pot fed only water the entire run to test her natural ability to produce without being pushed you can see the results speak for themselves.
 

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subcool

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Maturing much faster than JC was another hopeful goal and at 50 days I’d say we nailed that trait as well. All three females are alike with the exception of the height of the one female. To avoid numerical confusion we gave each female a name. Lemango became the tall one that looked more Space Queen dominant. Soylent Green was apparently the largest of the three as far as cola size and the plant most resembling Jacks Cleaner with her predictable resin leaf curl was given the name Pink lemonade. This is the plant that became the star during multiple sessions in front of my lens.

The trichome production is off the chart and she has the classic raised head on a tall stalk that’s so classic of JC. I feel this represents the total sum of what I’ve learned and collected doing this my entire adult life. To be able to pass on traits I have seen attributed to the mother plant and then to actually create a Phenotype with the same qualities and maybe even some improvements is truly humbling. The plant has Pink resin ok? I mean would you be happy or what? Now I have a gene pool to work with and continue the Cubing of the original Jacks Cleaner f1 to produce a more stable line but variety is the spice of life among tokers and each of the females we found is a legendary keeper in itself. I enjoy each plants smoke equally but there are subtle differences that make it nice to choose from according to my needs.
 

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subcool

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I think the best news about this strain is there available now. We have a lot of cool things from tasty to pretty to sativas to crazy combos of berry and lemon but I’m taking this to the pot snobs party. Lets have a look at the end results, Lemango was more Space Queen dominant and has a nice citrus and Fruit taste as her name implies. Soylent Green did indeed yield the most coming in at just over 2 ounces of cured dried bud. She has a nice Lemon Berry taste that is my favorite in a joint having a much smoother draw than the parent JC. Finally Pink Lemonade is the most potent and most like JC. Incredible expansion as all the resin melts away on the bud and your lungs simply explode and your head follows shortly after, it only takes 3 bong hits to make me smile like a Cheshire cat.

Jack the Ripper is available at
www.tgagenetics.com

If I have repeated this info I am sorry its hard to keep up with all the text
 

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subcool

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Jack the Ripper
Jacks Cleaner P1 X Space Queen
High Times Top Ten list 2006
Featured in the Big Book of Buds 3 Page 86,87,88,89
Oregon harvest Cup 1st Place

Jack the Ripper is well named because it is absolutely killer weed. A true 8 week Sativa Haze the first thing growers notice is the incredible lemon smell and heavy resin production. It has been described by UK growers as the best 8 week haze ever produced.
This plant will produce triangle shaped spear buds that pretty much stopped active calyx growth early and produced copious amounts of resin instead, resin production was evident from day 12 in 12/12 but really started to fatten up the heads around day 50 or so.
I find it performs best unstopped with a long vegetive period. The high is very creeper at first you may think that its not so strong but then whammo...it hits you hard and there's no turning back then...you will be deep in thought and meditative for quite some time...the duration and intensity is strong and thought provoking.
1. Phenotypes - Two main phenotypes both with a Lemon Haze smell and short growth one tends to be more a pine smell.
2. Height-Look for the Short Pheno/ Colas swell late
3. Yield-Medium-Heavy / Moderate trim work
4. Indoor/ Outdoor
5. Best way to grow- Untopped and vegged to a full bush.
6. Harvest Window_8-9 weeks
7. Sativa/ Indica 70/30
8. Hybrid-Pluton X Purple Haze X Lambsbread X NL X Jack Herer X Romulan X Cindy99BCGA
9. High type-Intense, trippy, visual, phase shifting, increased heart rate, heavy crash increased appetite, pain relief, paranoia
10. Taste Like: Lemon mango pine hash with a heavy haze influence




Well, actually let's start with "skosh"
1985 SSSC (Nevil's)
NL#5 X Pluton
Back crossed into the original NL#5 mom.
NL#5/Pluton X Purple Haze
Backed into the NL#5 mom
 

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subcool

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From SpeakersRfun

I first want to start off by saying WOW, anyone who harvests this pheno will know for sure it's the Soylent pheno once they start to trim her, your eyes burn like wild from the very strong pine and lemon cleaner smell. I'm telling you honestly and not shatting you one bit my eyes watered and my nose burnt the whole time trimming this trimming nightmare, sticky icky.... This will not be a huge yielder as I made seed from this run but it is the frostiest plant I've grown, and believe you me I've grown some champs in that department (pineapple skunk, OG champagne Kush, MK Ultra & Heck Vortex to name a few). This plant produced very thin screwdriver handle thickness buds that pretty much stopped active calyx growth early and produced copious amounts of resin instead, resin production was evident from day 12 in 12/12 but really started to fatten up the heads around day 50 or so. Unlike my funky pheno of Vortex the resin glands stood much shorter on this JTR which made it look like it was blanketed in white cloudy resin heads very early, the Vortex all though a resin factory has long glands and without any magnification harvest can be visually distinguished with the help of the wide separation of the large glandular heads, this due to the longer glandular stock. This pheno of JTR is incredible in the fact that there doesn’t seem to be a visually active gland head, yet the whole stalk and the head are one mass of resin(sorry folks no macro’s this time my Nikkor 90mm is being repaired), and due to its closer proximity made it not only look blanketed but was a trick to try and trim at a decent rate. Trimming would have been a breeze as the buds grew very little leaf and what leaf it did grow where single segment leafs... essentially resin leafsickles, but they where sticky and very greasy when cutting causing multiple stoppages due to scissor gumming and the inevitable goo smoke as we continue trimming .

Drying in the closet it smells very strong of pine cleaner and once again too long in there with just one plant hanging and your nose burns and eyes water. Calyxs are huge without seed and the beans look to be of fair size, yet I may have quite a few immature beans it seems I will reap many a good one in the bunch also. This is a G-13XJTR cross... not on purpose, but I didn't spray the G-13 and MK Ultra down enough after I used the Male G-13 like a man-*****, and seeded a few plants within blowing distance of stray G-spunk, she was a victim.

Once dry it takes on a spicy haze overtone with the cleaner smell underneath, if you break off a nug and give it a good squeeze it once again smells to high heaven of Pine cleaner. Once in the jar a few days the hazy smell really settles in, with a woody smell almost, the strong cleaner smell is still very present when a bud is cut or squeezed but seems to be subdued after curing a while.

Smoke is very dry and expansive, very hard to hold a good toke down, in it goes and it wants out sort of thing. The taste is very woody almost like cedar and pine but a dry type of taste, reminds me of when I was in high school and got haze and tai, old school taste. I really like the smoke from this because I wasn’t looking for an overpowering taste like the smell, and I was sort of worried I would be bombarded by a cleaner taste but I got a nice surprise with what it tastes like dry.

Now for the most important part, buzz, well apart from it being almost instantaneous there were no huge surprises, I have some Spacequeen, Dannyboy, and Vortex and all have killer head but JTR was a little different than the rest after a 5 min settling in period. It seemed to slam me in behind my eyes and almost warp my peripheral vision, so a no drive on this type of herb, herb. I had ringing in my ears something I haven’t had in a while from herb, kind of a white noise type phenom. Overall I would say the taste and buzz go very well together, you know some herb has a fruity smell and when smoked has a earthy or musty taste, well the JTR stayed very true to an almost Hazy type smell and stone. In my opinion a great smoke, with a little more veg time and not seeded this could be a real knockout, JTR Soylent is now replacing my Lemango pheno due to space and I don’t feel bad about loosing the yield, she makes up for it in personal stankity dank dank head, Peace and keep well.

world class

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Hi...thanks SHSG, Peesh and Banana man is that mr b on AN?

To answer yer question I'll try to desribe my smoking experience with the ripper...through out the day I smoke somewhat mild but consistent usually taking a puff here a puff there and usually not getting overwhelmingly hi...however later this afternoon I wanted to get testy with the Jack and take more than a mild 1-2 hit dose and I believe I took about 5+ cool hits I really don't remember as it was an experience... that lasted quite some time...the hi is very strong in the head almost feeling it inside yer head physically and makes an over the top pain killer because it is so thought provoking and will put you in a different realm of thinking and definately make you forget about pain...some paranoyia but very pleasant at the same time...makes a good cheery day smoke if taken in light doses...very flavorful, very fruity all phenos smell like 1 fruit or another...the hi is very creeper....at first you make think this aint that strong but then whammo...it hits you hard and there's no turning back then...you will be deep in thought and meditative for quite some time...the duration and intensity is strong and thought provoking....definately at the APEX of great genetics hats off to breeder...Subcool, and Miss Jill & TGA family and associates....world class kick ass super grass.....

I hope this answers yer question SHSG...peace and thanks fer stoppin by...

Peesh

hey sub guess what ? i have got a tradmark jtr looks bigger than the big yielding cut from pistils and is textbook jtr how you describe it ..... it is as big as my pineapple as a single header , the other pheno is the spaz pheno grows flat tops with pointy up leaves ..... the first one looks like it wants to grow a long full bud its got all the resin a man could wish for and more .....
there is a photo in bmans thread sonic seed mini tour .......

i will run the jtr in my main room after the kali shnapple 2 ...... so there will be 49 of your daughters soaking up 9 x 600wt lights in a 8ft x 8ft stage......
they always get big in that room 5 to 8 kegs...... ill get some amazing ripper shots then mate.......

just want to add guys i am no bum chum if i think some thing is crap i say so.....

in the pack of seeds sub gave me wich i bought at the last cup.... i have germed them all .. all had the smae overall smell that is discribed by sub. all flower about the time i was told , i had a good sellection to choose from one pack of seeds ........ this is the first strain i have bought thats does what it said on the packet, all seeds being a similer vertion of its self.......

cheers sub mate , i have done all the seeds from one pack and i couldnt of spent my money any better i swear to god .......

i should have listened to you when you told me not to by the super bud seeds from sensi as they were shit imo..

i got agent o and space queen in test next cant wait .....

hi guys,just thought id put up a couple of pics of my lovely jtr just before the chop and a cured bud shot.although this was my first grow i have been a toker for twenty years and have visited many producing countrys over the years,morroco,jamacia,thailand etc,i wont bore you with travel adventures here i just want to make the point ive smoked alot of great herb over the years and the jtr ranks as one of my top smokes ever!!this pheno was very hazy,reminded me a bit in smell as amnesia haze which i regulaly sample in th dam,there was also a dank fruit undertone to the haze,just amazing!!the buds were so sticky and crystallised even after a cure and when grinded were more like little hash balls then dry weed,the effect,wow,like a haze but heavier and more potent,nice one to sub for the breeding and major props to the creator.take it easy,karma purple
 

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when your saying it's done in 8weeks ,and another mention of 50days ,are we talk'n amber trich's ~ or milky/cloudy ..or clear and just dank bud

spectacular pics by the way !

This is my new favorite thread on the net

I heard some breeders like DJ have in the past donated trays of clones to the dispensaries in cali ,do you ? or have you ? I've got friends in cali ! Hell,I drive down there for a few cuts of that girl !

I want the pheno you have !:weed:

they are all beautiful!
 

subcool

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My JTR cutting has been distributed world wide :)
I found her started 6 seeds so its not really a treasure hunt :)

How I harvest is spelled out in my diy Amber Alert :)

Sub
 

subcool

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Nikon D-50
Nikon D-80
Sigma 50 MM Macro
Sigma 105 MM Macro
Nikon AF-s DX 18-200 ED VR 2
Sigma APO DG 70-200 1;2.8 2 Macro HSM
Nikon HB -26 70-300 1;4-5.6
Nikon Wide angle Fish Eye lens
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