The Dawgs Organic/WaterFarm Grow

gk skunky said:

Just for sake of being correct it's either Lactobacillus OR Lactobacille. Which are anaerobic gram positive organisms. Which can only be beneficial AT ALL in a soil grow. Too much oxygen prevalent in a hydroponic type system where hand watered or not. Lactobacillus is more beneficial in a true organic soil type media with other detrivores present.

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Sorry for thr typo,

i would disagree with you, because like i said earlier, it works well in many diffrent settings with diffrent purposes.
for my turtle aquarium, helps clean algae off turtles shell and also promotes healthy aquatic plants. Huge diffrence since i started using it. I cant stress how my tank has become less stinkier and much cleaner with lacto, alot easier to manage.

works well for bunny, chickens and dog diets. since ive been using it i noticed more healthy habbits and from my wifes experience she says the coat of both my dogs shed alot less and is more shinnier.

ive been using it in my aerogarden for the past 2 weeks in conjunction with synthetics and organics and also use in between res change before i feed and have been noticing healthy new fish tail roots with rapid green growth.

i do remeemebr that my last run using this aero garden, it would slime up in the res in less then a week and would have to clean every res change.

Ive yet to clean res since ive been using lacto.

one last note, with my past hydro grows, i would always notice algae grow on top of the cubes, my aerogarden cubes dont have a dot of algae, i believe this can be connected to lacto foilar spray.

So wth these personal observations, lacto does work well with hydro, not just soil.

Lactobacilli can also be used to restore particular physiological balance such as in the vaginal eco-system.[SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][7][/SUP][SUP][8][/SUP] Their role is (1) to physically protect the vaginal epithelium by building a thick layer separating the epithelium from pathogens, (2) to physiologically keep the balance of the vaginal ecosystem in maintaining the pH at ~4.5, and (3) generating hydrogen peroxide against pathogens. Lactobacilli are highly tolerant to low pH and can easily maintain low pH and protect the vaginal eco-system from Gram-negative and Gram-positive bacteria

Sign Me Up!!!!!!!!I Love Anything That Protects My Pussy!!!!

Well hells yeah. Maybe I just got some bad lacto, I always figured it was due to all the air I was pumping in, that it was just to oxygenated. Might have to give it another whirl.

Well Look At What I Found.Yep Im Deficent Across The Board Which Means Im Under Feeding My Lady,Check Out Her Veins,I Have Green,Purple And Yellow Veins Plus Check Out Her Leaf Structure And Color Again Signs Of Different Defiencies Or Lack Of Food.So Once Again This Am I Did A Res Change And Bumped Her Feeding Schedule To Mid-Veg Acording To NOTG Feeding Chart.


Now My Res Looks Worse Than It Actually Is Well To Me Anyway.Ive Noticed That The Smell Has Changed The Longer I Run The Organics Plus My Res Doesnt Foam Up As Much Either.Im Contribute This To My System Being Flushed Out Of Syntheics.


Now Check Out My Pudding Brown Roots.Peace and Im A Back Door Man

that first picture looks like what happened when I tried adding Nitrozime to the res (kelp) and I was out, but it does look like its clearing up on your end? Good luck brother D hope you are doing well!

Scotch089 said:

that first picture looks like what happened when I tried adding Nitrozime to the res (kelp) and I was out, but it does look like its clearing up on your end? Good luck brother D hope you are doing well!

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I can vouch for Nitrozime, but I'm 100% RTW and probably use different nutrients. Downsides to it are the high price, small bottle, and funky smell. Don't think I'd use it in a recirculating system because of the smell.

A local dispensery grower I know here swears by the stuff, and supposedly you can make a highly effective foliar spray with small amounts of it. I add it at about 2 tsp per 5 gallons in my gravity feeder, and right after adding the Super B+ at half-strength.

i have fell in love with the stuff!! Stack-stack-stack-stack.... I only foliar with the shit now (with Bioag Ful-Power, and Protekt) but I got slimed back when I first tried it out.

I have read in a few different places that 5:2 is a good mix with fulvic and have stuck with that. My shop owner was the guy that turned me onto it actually...

Cytokinins FTW!!!

Im Currently Doing A 24hr Flush With Herculean Harvest.Then I Will Bump Up My Nutes To Late Veg.Im Noticing That My Lady Will Perk Up For A Couple Of Days After My Res Change Then She Starts Looking Pale And Losing Color Again.I Have Noticed The Stems On The New Growth Are Less Purple So Im Heading In The Right Direction.Now My Roots Look Horrible And My Res Is Getting A Funky Smell To It That Im Not Liking.However Their Is New Root Growth And That Brown Stuff Isnt Slimy And Well Im Really In A Holding Patteren On What To Do Next.

Yep Ive Pulled The Plug On My Organic Grow.The Reasons 1 Is Im Not Using The Right Nutes For My Application And 2 Once The Sales Rep From Necutar Of The Gods Found Out That I Grew With Leds He Stopped Returning My Phone Calls Fucking Prick.When I Relayed This Information To My Local Grow Shop Who Refered Me To Him I Found Out The Kid Behind The Counter Had The Same Experience With This Prick.Anyway Ive Switch Over To My Flora Nova Nute Program Trying To Save This Extreamly Deficient Biotch.Now I Will Say That Herculean Harvest And Demeters Destiny Work Well In Conjunction With The Flora Nova And My Ewc Tea.Thats What Im Using In My 4x4 And Thats What I Will Finish This Grow Off With.Brother Hyroot Was Kind Enough To Share Another Organic Company So After I Finish This Run I Will Check Out Their Organic Hydro/Line.

Ok Check Out This Fugly Azz Plant.1 Reason This Nute Program Failed Is Way Too Much Fulvic Acid Coating My Roots Not Allowing For Proper Nute Uptake.I Belive The reason I Experienced Some Growth At res Change Was Because I Would Rinse my Roots Looking For New Growth And Withing 24 Hours My Roots Would Be Coated Again From Top To Bottom.

The Dawg said:

Yep Ive Pulled The Plug On My Organic Grow.The Reasons 1 Is Im Not Using The Right Nutes For My Application And 2 Once The Sales Rep From Necutar Of The Gods Found Out That I Grew With Leds He Stopped Returning My Phone Calls Fucking Prick.When I Relayed This Information To My Local Grow Shop Who Refered Me To Him I Found Out The Kid Behind The Counter Had The Same Experience With This Prick.Anyway Ive Switch Over To My Flora Nova Nute Program Trying To Save This Extreamly Deficient Biotch.Now I Will Say That Herculean Harvest And Demeters Destiny Work Well In Conjunction With The Flora Nova And My Ewc Tea.Thats What Im Using In My 4x4 And Thats What I Will Finish This Grow Off With.Brother Hyroot Was Kind Enough To Share Another Organic Company So After I Finish This Run I Will Check Out Their Organic Hydro/Line.

Ok Check Out This Fugly Azz Plant.1 Reason This Nute Program Failed Is Way Too Much Fulvic Acid Coating My Roots Not Allowing For Proper Nute Uptake.I Belive The reason I Experienced Some Growth At res Change Was Because I Would Rinse my Roots Looking For New Growth And Withing 24 Hours My Roots Would Be Coated Again From Top To Bottom.
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damn homie, sorry to hear the bad service, its sad to see led growers be treated like this, oppression will always haunt the minority

also sorry to hear abiut the sick ladies,
beauty abiut hydro is u can always make up for lost veg time, simply by adding more veg time and fixing the problem lol

Whatt will u ever do with the nectar bottle nutes?

People suck sometimes. That's an example how shady some companies really are..

Kyle kushmans veganic line is out now. Its vegamatrix. He grows soil. I'd imagine it will work in hydro.

try adding coconut water to the resi. 1:10 ratio with water. Run that by itself for a few days. The enzymes in there should get the roots growing again. It will break down old or dead too. Its hydro safe. Does not ferment

foreverflyhi said:

damn homie, sorry to hear the bad service, its sad to see led growers be treated like this, oppression will always haunt the minority

also sorry to hear abiut the sick ladies,
beauty abiut hydro is u can always make up for lost veg time, simply by adding more veg time and fixing the problem lol

Whatt will u ever do with the nectar bottle nutes?

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I Will Give What I Not Using To The Kid At The Store.He Loves Them Just Thinks The Sales Rep Is A Douche.To Be Honest Im Liking The HH And DD As Calcium and Mag Suppliments As Well As Other Micro Nutrients These Products Bring To The Table Plus They Are Working In My 4x4 With My Flora Nova Nutes.You Know I Do Run High Res Temps,Im Thinking That May Have Had An Effect On How well These Nutes Reacted In My Res(69-76 Temps)Maybe I Need To Run A Chiller But That Not Going To Happen.

hyroot said:

People suck sometimes. That's an example how shady some companies really are..

Kyle kushmans veganic line is out now. Its vegamatrix. He grows soil. I'd imagine it will work in hydro.

try adding coconut water to the resi. 1:10 ratio with water. Run that by itself for a few days. The enzymes in there should get the roots growing again. It will break down old or dead too. Its hydro safe. Does not ferment

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Just Checked And I Just Pull The Brown Snotty Roots Off However Theirs New Growth Comming From The Netpot So WTF Im Proceding Ahead Cant Fuck It Up Any Worse.Brother Hyroot Where Do I Get This Coconut Water?? In The Meantime I Do Have A Fresh Batch Of Tea Comming Out Tonight.So Im Calling The Slime Fighters And Jim Dandy To The Rescue Go Jim Dandy Go

Any market that sells coconuts. In my area Albertsons, ralphs, WalMart, sprouts, whole foods, Bristol farms all have them. With fresh coconut water I did a 1/4 cup per 5 gal of water. Or you can buy bottled coconut water anywhere. That's 1:10 - 1:15 ratio.

you can throw frozen 2 liters or 1 liters in the resi to bring temps down. Swap them out 2-3 times a day.

hyroot said:

Any market that sells coconuts. In my area Albertsons, ralphs, WalMart, sprouts, whole foods, Bristol farms all have them. With fresh coconut water I did a 1/4 cup per 5 gal of water. Or you can buy bottled coconut water anywhere. That's 1:10 - 1:15 ratio.

you can throw frozen 2 liters or 1 liters in the resi to bring temps down. Swap them out 2-3 times a day.

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Right On Brother Was Just Checking Making Sure It Wasnt A Organic Market Item.No No Frozen Water Bottles That The Reason For The Ewc Tea Bro.It Allows Me To Run Higher Than Normal Res Temps With No Problems.To Honest I Thought I Would Get Slimed Cause I Was Getting A Foul Smell 24 Hrs After Res Change.However In My Defense I Did Run 15ml H2o2 Per Gallon For 24 Hrs.Tonight I Will Do A Coconut Water Flush Followed By A Extream Tea Treatment.Peace And Who'd Ya Gona Call The Slime Busters I Anit Afraid Of No Slime

You Know My Res Smelled Like A Frogg Pissed In It

The Dawg said:

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You Know My Res Smelled Like A Frogg Pissed In It

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Frany is at it again. So vengeful lol..


http://www.greners.com/search?q=vegamatrix

hyroot said:

Frany is at it again. So vengeful lol..


http://www.greners.com/search?q=vegamatrix

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Kyle's got to be kidding with those #'s of bottles for a "complete" lineup................fuck bottles anyway, I've got water at home for free

PSUAGRO. said:

Kyle's got to be kidding with those #'s of bottles for a "complete" lineup................fuck bottles anyway, I've got water at home for free

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. If I did hydro or straight coco I would probably use it. Kyle has some great looking plants on instagram


each bottle is for
grow
bloom
kelp
enzymes
amino acids (kelp has that already)
cal mag (kelp has calcium )

hyroot said:

. If I did hydro or straight coco I would probably use it.


each bottle is for
grow
bloom
kelp
enzymes
amino acids (kelp has that already)
cal mag

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Yeah all ^^ ingredients can be bought for cheap as you know.........did you see what their asking for the while lineup? It's BS and way overpriced == this is before we even know the dilution rates!

PSUAGRO. said:

Yeah all ^^ ingredients can be bought for cheap as you know.........did you see what their asking for the while lineup? It's BS and way overpriced == this is before we even know the dilution rates!

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same price as botanicare, canna, fox farm.

there's earthdragonfly which is cheaper too.

he posted on Ig to buy it at greners and said its 98% organic.

hyroot said:

same price as botanicare, canna, fox farm.

there's earthdragonfly which is cheaper too.

he posted on Ig to buy it at greners and said its 98% organic.

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All crap too...........canna is great for coco though ........98% organic makes no sense coming from ALL plant/rock based sources?