The Fish Thread

mcpurple

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ya i would not go out in that type of conditions, i only have lakes and rivers around me so i am all good if it is cold, but not if it is pouring down rain or snowing. i actually went fishing in some pretty heavy rain the other day with all my rain gear on, but the rain made it not to fun
 

mcpurple

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i went to Galice oregon yesterday to go see Raine Falls, they are mor of huge rapids, it is over a class 5 and you have to have special permits to raft them. they are huge and loud in person. it is a 2 mile hike in and then 2 miles back. i went with my girl and her girl friend and took my pit as well. i only had my cam phone but it took some good pics i think saw some cool stuff and it was very quite and no people but us around, not many go down theri in the winter. at certain times of the year the salmon are jumping up the falls to go spawn and it is a cool site just got to be aware of Bears feeding. i did about 30 mins of fishing only cuz we had to head back before it gets dark. it gets dark here at 5 now witch sucks. soon i am going out theri early morning and fishing all day. it felt like home out theri, no noise other people, no drama, and so fucking peaceful. i even smoked some weed out theri. i had some video of the falls but i cant send them with my phone i thought id share some of the pics i got with my phone. the river is the Rogue river and is a very nice river, if any one ever comes to oregon this place is a must if you like nature
 

smokermore

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i catch ALOT of stripers and hybrids here in east texas. I do best with the Little Goerge lure. My friend caught i think it was over 60 lb blue channel cat on a jugline. The thing look like a fucking baby seal or something
 

Brick Top

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i catch ALOT of stripers and hybrids here in east texas. I do best with the Little Goerge lure. My friend caught i think it was over 60 lb blue channel cat on a jugline. The thing look like a fucking baby seal or something
That's like the lake I live on ... stripers are the thing for sure .. though large mouth bass are plentiful too .. and the cats get very large. The largest blue catfish I know of caught on the lake I live on is 92.28 pounds.
 

smokermore

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its creepy to think those big fish actually "exist" when your swiming in the lake lol. But im the type of person that loves to fish, but i dont like to touch them lol! i gotta have gloves xD
 

Brick Top

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its creepy to think those big fish actually "exist" when your swiming in the lake lol. But im the type of person that loves to fish, but i dont like to touch them lol! i gotta have gloves xD
The biggest fish of any type that I know of that was caught in the lake I live on was a 203 pound alligator gar. Now that would creep me out.
 

Brick Top

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those are some huge fish, and ya gar are pretty burl
The lake I live on is actually a 50,000 acre reservoir and there are not supposed to be alligator gar in it. The Army Corps of Engineers who oversee the lake says there are no alligator gar in the lake, just long nose gar They supposedly are not in my area of the southeast, but the one I mentioned earlier was caught here and one day while fishing with an ex-neighbor he hooked one. His boat was 8 feet wide and there was at least two to three feet of fish sticking out on each side of the boat when the fish swam under the boat. That ain't no minnow.

The Army Corps of Engineers also swears there are no cottonmouth moccasins in the lake either, but I have had them on my dock and I have also had the thrill of swimming with them too .... and I know for sure that is precisely what they were. Those two inaccurate claims on the part of the Army Corps of Engineers tend to make me not have all that much faith in what they claim exists in and around the lake.

There is something of legend that goes with the lake. In the early 60's a small private aircraft piloted my a Navy officer crashed near the dam, where the depth is roughly 100 feet to 110 feet. The Navy sent divers down for the body and to bring up the wreckage so it might be determined how the aircraft crashed.

As the legend goes the Navy divers came up horrified because there was supposedly extremely large, and seemingly aggressive, blue catfish around the wreckage. They claimed it was the body that had by then been underwater for some time by then that attracted them.

I refuse to believe that trained Navy divers would be horrified of blue catfish, even large ones, but that is the story that has been told for decades and since a 92 pound 28 ounce blue was caught in the lake I suppose it is possible that there are ones even larger.

Other than the cottonmouths the one thing that does freak me a bit are the snapping turtles. I have seen them larger than a hubcap from an old Cadillac and one that size could easily lop off a few toes or a hunk of foot and in the murky southern impoundment water most times you cannot see the bottom so if you bump something with your foot while walking along the bottom you do tend to jerk it up and away rather quickly, just in case.

Something that freaked me once, that has remained a total mystery to me, was once while swimming I swam into something and rather than me pushing it with the force of my swimming it not only stopped me dead in my tracks but it easily shoved me backwards. Likely it was a large cat but whatever it was it did not leave me with a warm fuzzy feeling. It felt like I swam into a scuba diving cow.

Sometimes I really miss the clear northern lakes where you can see everything around you as see to a fairly deep depth.
 

mcpurple

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dam your lake sounds like a fucking scary one for sure. i wonder why the army corps would lie about it all.
i would not go swimming in that lake at all id be scared shit less, i dont even realy like swimming in large bodies of water where you cant see down. the scariest thing we have in lakes around oregon is either dead bodies, or an alligator, gators are not supposed to be here but one was found at a lake called applgate lake it was only like 5 ft, and they think some one released theri pet once it got to big.
 

Brick Top

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dam your lake sounds like a fucking scary one for sure. i wonder why the army corps would lie about it all.
i would not go swimming in that lake at all id be scared shit less, i dont even realy like swimming in large bodies of water where you cant see down. the scariest thing we have in lakes around oregon is either dead bodies, or an alligator, gators are not supposed to be here but one was found at a lake called applgate lake it was only like 5 ft, and they think some one released theri pet once it got to big.

When I was young I would vacation at friend's and relatives lake homes in Michigan, one in the U.P. and a couple in norther Wisc and was used to clear water and being able to see what was around. When I purchased my home here I loved the lake because of the size and the beauty but it did freak me a bit not being able to see much, if anything. On a totally calm day when there hasn't been any storms you might be able to see down about a foot to a foot and a half. When its rough you can't see down six inched. If we have a big storm, or like a hurricane, the water will be the color of coffee with milk or cream in it and you can't see below the surface at all. I have pretty much gotten used to it but now and then something will happen that causes your heart to race a bit.

I'm not so sure that Corps actually lies as much as it relies on information that might not be totally accurate an that can change. Two fairly large rivers feed most of the water into the lake and there are near countless small rivers and creeks that also feed it and things can work their way into the lake and they may be things that were never there before or maybe just in numbers that were so small that they had not been spotted or reported.

Its sort of like a lake a few counties south of me where several alligators were spotted, and caught, this year. No one who has lived in the areas for their entire life could remember them ever being there before, but way back in time they did live in the area. Since becoming protected and their numbers having grown they are reclaiming bodies of water that many decades ago, or even farther back in time, they did live in. When you add the growth and expansion in my area where farms with ponds loaded with cottonmouths having been turned into housing developments the snakes do not seem to like their new neighbors so the will relocate and likely that is at least in part what has driven them here.

The Corps also really doesn't care about the people who live on the lake, they are a bother to them. My neighbor, the one who caught the alligator gar longer than his 8 foot wide boat is wide, once saw a snake in his boat and it went down into the bilge area. He called the Corps for advice of how to get rid of the snake. The Corps guy asked him if he had a small dog. My neighbor said he did. The Corps guy said, put the dog in the boat and when the snake comes out to bite the dog shoot the snake .. and then he hung up on my neighbor. They do not give a damn and I'm sure they get tired of being asked a zillion how to and what is here questions and just give a flippant answer or tell the person what they think the person wants to hear. I told my neighbor to soak some rags in ammonia and toss them in and use a garden sprayer to spray ammonia into the bilge area and the snake left. It was a harmless blacksnake that had been hanging around my neighbors covered slip going for the eggs and baby birds in the nests bird always build under the roofs of covered slips here.

If a Corps guy is meeting with a prospective buyer and the Realtor, to ask about a dock permit or something, and if the prospective purchaser asks about dangerous things I'm sure the Corps guy doesn't want to upset the Realtor and blow their possible deal by telling the prospective buyer that we're knee deep in copperheads and they might find a cottonmouth curled up on a boat seat or sunning on their dock ... so they just day ... no worries ... everything's cool and the gang.

But when it comes to fishing the lake is great. There have been a number of Bass Masters Tournaments held here since I moved here, including the year end one. When I was part owner of one of the marina's on the lake, the one where all the big tournaments went out of, we'd have all the big name pro bass fishermen crawling all over the place. Some were pretty cool but a handful were real jerks. This goes back to the late 90's and early 2000's so likely many of them have retired or maybe are in some seniors thing or whatever, but I NEVER looked forward to a big tournament coming in.

I can't remember the fisherman's name now but he had pre-fished the lake previous to a Bass Master's Tournament and found a great location where he had to go under a low bridge to get to. By the time the tournament came we had some large storms northwest of us and the lake was filling up fast. I have seen the lake rise by five feet overnight, three times in one week, and lesser amounts many times.

When he went to fish his secret spot he could not get under the low bridge. He removed his engine cover, windshield and trolling motor and removed the drain plug and let the boat settle down in the water a bit and was then able to get under the bridge. He was able to do that two days but not the third but the fish he caught on the first two days alone gave him the win.

Striper fishing is really good and there are crappie so large that you would think they were raised in a nuclear power plant's cooling ponds or something. When the lake was first flooded and then stocked a number of northern game fish were stocked but the soft silt bottom was not good for the eggs of types that need rocky or sandy bottoms and the eggs died. Walleye have managed to hang on, but not in large numbers, but now and then you'll catch one and normally it's a pretty good sized one. There are several hybrid types of fish in the lake too.

It's a pretty decent place if you don't need clear water. 50,000 acres of water with about 825 miles of shoreline gives you a lot of room to play and fish.
 

GreatwhiteNorth

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it sure is a rapala. i think it was a sinking minnow.
and no he had his adipose fin witch means it is wild, all hatchery fish get thei adipose fin clipped
It looks like he's got damaged/deformed pectoral and ventral fins.
You didn't catch him near a nuke power plant did you? :lol:
 

mcpurple

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well he could be a hatchery fish then, all i know how to tell the difference is if the adipose fin is gone or not.
and no power plants around here, but the pond he came out of is very close to the waste management facility
 

GreatwhiteNorth

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Here's a cool fishing story thats right next to home for me.

Deer hunt comes with monster halibut catch for ex-Fairbanksan
by Tim Mowry / tmowry@newsminer.com Fairbanks Daily News Miner
Nov 24, 2010 | 4991 views | 3 | | 16 | |


Photo courtesy of Andy Workman Andy Workman, left, boat captain Garrit Hintz, center, and Jason Bergman stand with the giant halibut Workman and Bergman caught on Nov. 19 out of Port Lions near Kodiak Island. The weight of the fish, which measured 89 3/4 inches, was estimated at 405 pounds based on its length. The men were deer hunting when they decided to try their luck for halibut.

FAIRBANKS — Andy Workman and five friends went deer hunting on Kodiak Island last week and came home Tuesday with as much halibut meat as they did deer meat.​

But it wasn’t because the deer hunting was poor.​

Workman, who grew up in Fairbanks and lives in Wasilla, caught a halibut that length-weight charts estimate at approximately 405 pounds. He caught the fish, which measured 89 3/4 inches, on Nov. 19 out of Port Lions near Kodiak.​

“Our intention was just to go deer hunting,” said the 40-year-old Workman, who graduated from North Pole High and attended the University of Alaska Fairbanks before moving to Wasilla 10 years ago.​

Accompanying Workman on the trip were Jason Bergman of Wasilla; Jason Chalstrom of Fairbanks; Rich Henderson of Wasilla; Jesse Hoffman of Wasilla; and Brett McLean of Wasilla. All six men work for Slayden Plumbing and Heating Co., which has offices in Fairbanks and Wasilla. They were fishing out of Kodiak Paradise Lodge in Port Lions with charter captain Garrit Hintz.​

Though nobody ever got an official weight on the fish, it is believed to be the biggest halibut ever caught by a sport fisherman in Kodiak.​

“I’ve never heard of a 400-pound halibut caught here before,” Donn Tracy, sport fish area manager for the Department of Fish and Game in Kodiak, said. “That’s a huge halibut.”​

Jack Tragis of Fairbanks holds the record for the largest sport fish-caught halibut in Alaska with a 459-pounder caught in Unalaska Bay in 1996, the only place in Alaska where a 400-plus pound halibut has been caught by a sport fisherman.​

The biggest fish ever caught by a sport fisherman in Valdez is 363 pounds and the largest sport fish-caught halibut in Homer is believed to be 376 pounds.​

Tracy said the length-weight chart used to estimate the fish’s weight “is a pretty good indicator of weight.”​

“It probably would have pegged the weight of that fish within 20 pounds or less,” he said.​

The deer hunting on the day he caught the fish was slow, which prompted Workman to suggest to Hintz that they try a little halibut fishing.​

“We were in a bay and we weren’t seeing anything,” explained Workman, who has hunted and fished in the area for several years. “We had a slack tide coming in and nothing was happening so I said, ‘Let’s go throw some lines in.’​

“I’d fished out there quite a bit,” he said. “We usually try to go out there and get some (ling) cod and halibut to bring back with us. Usually we only get 40 pounders at this time of year.”​

The water was 360 feet deep and there was a strong rip tide in the area they were fishing in, which meant they only had about a 45-minute window to fish in, Workman said. They had been fishing for about a half hour and had boated two smaller halibut — one about 80 pounds and the other about 35 — when the big one hit.​

“The tide was ripping too much and we were almost ready to pull up and leave,” Workman said. “I hooked it and it didn’t feel like a whole lot on the end of the hook at first. I could feel it wriggling a little bit.”​

After about 15 minutes later, though, Workman could tell he had hooked a big fish.​

“It was taking a guy to help hold the pole to keep it from hitting the side of the boat,” Workman said. “I caught it in 360 feet of water and it spooled me right back to the backing line, which was probably 450 feet of line.”​

It took Workman about 45 minutes of pumping and reeling to get the fish to the surface.​

“We got him to the top and we tried to hit it with a harpoon but the harpoon didn’t go through the thick skin and then he went all the way to the bottom again,” Workman said.​

That’s when Workman handed the rod to Bergman, who spent the next 45 minutes reeling the fish to the surface again. This time, they were able to successfully harpoon it. It took all seven men aboard to get the fish onto the boat.​

“Once we had it laying on the side of the boat everybody was pretty surprised,” Workman said. “It was huge. It was like a monster beneath the sea.”​

The fish measured 89 3/4 inches, which according to the Department of Fish and Game’s length-weight chart put the fish somewhere in the neighborhood of 405 pounds. They never were able to weigh it on a scale.​

Coincidentally, it was the same hole that another Slayden employee, Dan Beckley of North Pole, caught a 338-pound halibut on Aug. 31.​

The fact that Workman caught the fish this late in the year is a surprise, Tracy said.​

“Halibut migrate into deeper water in the winter months,” he said, noting that the commercial fishery closes in mid-November to protect halibut in the spawning cycle. “Generally when you get into late November it’s tough to find halibut.”​

The deer hunting on Kodiak was OK but it wasn’t great due to lack of snow that allowed the deer to remain at higher elevations, Workman said.​

Even so, with the three halibut they caught and nine deer they shot, each man brought home more than 100 pounds of meat, about half of which was halibut and half of which was deer, Workman said.​

“We brought back about 630 pounds all together,” he said. “Alaska Airlines loved us.”
Read more: Fairbanks Daily News-Miner - Deer hunt comes with monster halibut catch for ex Fairbanksan
 

mcpurple

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great story, and man what a trip, go deer hunting only to come home with a bunch of halibut and deer.
lucky man he is
 

mistaphuck

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The lake I live on is actually a 50,000 acre reservoir and there are not supposed to be alligator gar in it. The Army Corps of Engineers who oversee the lake says there are no alligator gar in the lake, just long nose gar They supposedly are not in my area of the southeast, but the one I mentioned earlier was caught here and one day while fishing with an ex-neighbor he hooked one. His boat was 8 feet wide and there was at least two to three feet of fish sticking out on each side of the boat when the fish swam under the boat. That ain't no minnow.

The Army Corps of Engineers also swears there are no cottonmouth moccasins in the lake either, but I have had them on my dock and I have also had the thrill of swimming with them too .... and I know for sure that is precisely what they were. Those two inaccurate claims on the part of the Army Corps of Engineers tend to make me not have all that much faith in what they claim exists in and around the lake.

There is something of legend that goes with the lake. In the early 60's a small private aircraft piloted my a Navy officer crashed near the dam, where the depth is roughly 100 feet to 110 feet. The Navy sent divers down for the body and to bring up the wreckage so it might be determined how the aircraft crashed.

As the legend goes the Navy divers came up horrified because there was supposedly extremely large, and seemingly aggressive, blue catfish around the wreckage. They claimed it was the body that had by then been underwater for some time by then that attracted them.

I refuse to believe that trained Navy divers would be horrified of blue catfish, even large ones, but that is the story that has been told for decades and since a 92 pound 28 ounce blue was caught in the lake I suppose it is possible that there are ones even larger.

Other than the cottonmouths the one thing that does freak me a bit are the snapping turtles. I have seen them larger than a hubcap from an old Cadillac and one that size could easily lop off a few toes or a hunk of foot and in the murky southern impoundment water most times you cannot see the bottom so if you bump something with your foot while walking along the bottom you do tend to jerk it up and away rather quickly, just in case.

Something that freaked me once, that has remained a total mystery to me, was once while swimming I swam into something and rather than me pushing it with the force of my swimming it not only stopped me dead in my tracks but it easily shoved me backwards. Likely it was a large cat but whatever it was it did not leave me with a warm fuzzy feeling. It felt like I swam into a scuba diving cow.

Sometimes I really miss the clear northern lakes where you can see everything around you as see to a fairly deep depth.
all of that is another reason I love alaska..
 
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