The Four Biggest Right Wing Lies About Income Inequality

UncleBuck · Jul 13, 2015

desert dude said:
I wish more wealthy people would do a hitch in the service.

I think See4 might benefit from it, for example. Buck too, though he is probably too old and fat for it now.

they'd never let me in with the amount of drugs i've done.

desert dude · Jul 13, 2015

I have a suggestion to reduce income inequality: Put a 99% tax on speaking fees of politicians and ex politicians.

ChesusRice · Jul 13, 2015

desert dude said:
I find it funny that you lefties spout that "the Army is a socialist organization" meme, and none of you would touch it with a ten foot pole despite all being socialists. Tell me what is socialist about it?

I recommend military service to every young guy. My oldest son, and my youngest adopted son both joined the Army. My youngest is still in. It is a great adventure, with some risks I will admit. I just read a Yahoo story about the French Foreign Legion. If I was 18, I would seriously consider doing that solely for the adventure of it.

I'm a Vet. I tell my daughter a stupid choice is to join the military if you have better options

ttystikk · Jul 13, 2015

Padawanbater2 said:
Refer to post #11. It's a lot more than people being lazy or not taking personal responsibility and it would benefit you to acknowledge that. We live in a system where everyone can't win, no matter how hard everyone tries, there will always be those that fail, even though they tried just as hard as the ones that succeeded. Instead of condemning them as lazy/stupid/or whatever else to demonize them, imo we should work on improving the system that allows hard working people to fail.

Or worse, actively prevents them from succeeding, even when it benefits everyone!

desert dude · Jul 13, 2015

ChesusRice said:
I'm a Vet. I tell my daughter a stupid choice is to join the military if you have better options

Some people complain when they're hung with a new rope. Whiners and slackers have a bad experience where ever they are.

UncleBuck · Jul 13, 2015

desert dude said:
I have a suggestion to reduce income inequality: Put a 99% tax on speaking fees of politicians and ex politicians.

why are you so upset that the free market puts such a high price and value on hillary clinton's wisdom?

maybe if you were inspiring like her, instead of just another stooge in the KKK march, your public speech would be worth something too.

ttystikk · Jul 13, 2015

Wavels said:
You cite Reich, and then belabor my reference to Heritage? Reich has no political bias?

'Nuff said!

Substance?
Nope...just dismiss Heritage...see so easy!
Reich is consistently incorrect as is his ideological brother, the woefully inaccurate and consistently misguided ideologue Paul Krugman.

Point to one instance. Go on, I dare ya.

Fogdog · Jul 13, 2015

desert dude said:
Some people complain when they're hung with a new rope. Whiners and slackers have a bad experience where ever they are.

What Paris Hilton and Desert Dude have in common:

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ttystikk · Jul 13, 2015

Fogdog said:
What Paris Hilton and Desert Dude have in common:

There might be more to the actively preventing people from succeeding angle than first appears... what do you think?

ttystikk · Jul 13, 2015

Fogdog said:
In his case, I'd call it severely retarded if that wasn't the politically incorrect way to describe it. Brain dead might be OK. Can't tell if he's immune or one of the zombies.

I must have replied to the wrong post. I wasn't talking about the other poster, I was responding to your discussion about how the economy works for- and against- people.

see4 · Jul 13, 2015

desert dude said:
I have no interest in pinning you down or doing intel on you to figure out who you are. Likewise, I won't be threatening to murder you and your family while you sleep. I am neither an internet tough guy, nor a violent guy in real life; I am a grown up.

The stench of your self-reverence fills the room when I read your posts. I met guys like you in college. Dan Quayle is a guy like you. One of Quayle's professors described him as the most vapid person he had ever met. I read that description decades ago and still remember it. You're probably not as vapid as Dan, but that still leaves a lot of room for improvement. See, I complimented you: You're not as vapid as Dan Quayle.

Yes, it is a stereotypical jab. Stereotypes arise because they describe common characteristics. You seem to fit the one I used. You don't sound like somebody I would enjoy playing billiards with, and I am sure that is of no concern to you.

Two of my accounting professors said that I was by far the most capable student they had taught in years. I was a good listener, and questioned a lot, I created discussion, people generally liked being around me. They still do. Your analysis of me is wildly inaccurate, unsurprisingly.

It actually does concern me that you don't wish to play pool with me. I'm quite good... well I take that back. I was 15 years ago, but I can assure you I won't scratch the felt. Besides, I'm sure you'd love playing pool with me because I'd buy all the drinks. Because I don't mind doing things for other people. Doing things for other people is common in progressive thinkers, not as common in neo-conservatives like yourself.

see4 · Jul 13, 2015

desert dude said:
I wish more wealthy people would do a hitch in the service.

I think See4 might benefit from it, for example. Buck too, though he is probably too old and fat for it now.

I spent 4 years in the Air Force as a Flight Paramedic. I was stationed at Wright Patterson AFB in Ohio.
But you would have known that if you weren't busy making unfounded wild accusations about me.

How about you? Or you just all bark and no bite?

UncleBuck · Jul 13, 2015

see4 said:
I spent 4 years in the Air Force as a Flight Paramedic. I was stationed at Wright Patterson AFB in Ohio.
But you would have known that if you weren't busy making unfounded wild accusations about me.

How about you? Or you just all bark and no bite?

desert rat just went for the paycheck and the welfare, because he was utterly worthless in any capacity other than bullet catcher.

ChesusRice · Jul 13, 2015

desert dude said:
Some people complain when they're hung with a new rope. Whiners and slackers have a bad experience where ever they are.

I can't tell you how many times my refueling at seas experience has come in handy in my civilian life

londonfog · Jul 13, 2015

see4 said:
I spent 4 years in the Air Force as a Flight Paramedic. I was stationed at Wright Patterson AFB in Ohio.
But you would have known that if you weren't busy making unfounded wild accusations about me.

How about you? Or you just all bark and no bite?

88th

Fogdog · Jul 13, 2015

ttystikk said:
I must have replied to the wrong post. I wasn't talking about the other poster, I was responding to your discussion about how the economy works for- and against- people.

Ha pretty funny. I was wondering how high you were when you wrote that. So let's try it again

ttystikk said:
There might be more to the actively preventing people from succeeding angle than first appears... what do you think?

What's holding the bottom 30% of the people in the US back? I think there are a lot of reasons but most stem from the situation they grew up with. I don't think malicious suppression is the cause -- at least not in the US.

Some of what is holding back progress can be found in this thread. The idea that a person is the only one that can right their situation is perverted into the conclusion that there is nothing society can do so we should cut funding of programs that help. @spandy ridiculed the idea of tuition-free junior college for recent high school grads in Oregon, for example. So, Dave Ramsey's reasons for poverty being limited to only three is an oversimplification and a comfortable one for the religious right to cite. This reasoning was rife in the Reagan administration and we lost a generation or two to the hopelessness of poverty because of it.

After that, it gets fragmented into personal situations. Poor family situation, no role models growing up, trauma from abuse or violence, incarceration, the fear of losing family or ridicule from family if becoming mainstream (prevalent in reservations), nobody to help with a particular class like math, language, early pregnancy, the list goes on. Some people manage to get out of the situation but most don't. I don't have an answer but it's offensive when people say the poor are to blame for their situation.

ttystikk · Jul 13, 2015

Part of the web of lies around income inequality is the pernicious one that if you're poor in America, it's your own fault.

This can be seen as a trap in its own right; many will believe it.

NoDrama · Jul 13, 2015

Padawanbater2 said:
Americans don’t have enough money to get the economy out of first gear.

Great post paddywhacker. I agree with everything, except this part.
Everyone makes plenty of money, that isn't the problem. And the author eludes to this when they refer to 'real wages'. so to give a primer: The problem is that our money has lost so much purchasing power. Our money loses some of this power when the government deficit spends. Deficit spending increases the overall pool of money and you not only are taxed for this spending directly, but indirectly too by the ever lessened purchasing power of your dollar caused by an ever exponentially expanding pool of money. The people of the world are at the very end of this cycle that eventually makes all paper/representative money worthless and then nations perish.

spandy said:
20 Things the Rich Do Every Day

So what do the rich do every day that the poor don’t do?

1. 70% of wealthy eat less than 300 junk food calories per day. 97% of poor people eat more than 300 junk food calories per day. 23% of wealthy gamble. 52% of poor people gamble.

2. 80% of wealthy are focused on accomplishing some single goal. Only 12% of the poor do this.

3. 76% of wealthy exercise aerobically four days a week. 23% of poor do this.

4. 63% of wealthy listen to audio books during commute to work vs. 5% of poor people.

5. 81% of wealthy maintain a to-do list vs. 19% of poor.

6. 63% of wealthy parents make their children read two or more non-fiction books a month vs. 3% of poor.

7. 70% of wealthy parents make their children volunteer 10 hours or more a month vs. 3% of poor.

8. 80% of wealthy make Happy Birthday calls vs. 11% of poor.

9. 67% of wealthy write down their goals vs. 17% of poor.

10. 88% of wealthy read 30 minutes or more each day for education or career reasons vs. 2% of poor.

11. 6% of wealthy say what’s on their mind vs. 69% of poor.

12. 79% of wealthy network five hours or more each month vs. 16% of poor.

13. 67% of wealthy watch one hour or less of TV every day vs. 23% of poor.

14. 6% of wealthy watch reality TV vs. 78% of poor.

15. 44% of wealthy wake up three hours before work starts vs. 3% of poor.

16. 74% of wealthy teach good daily success habits to their children vs. 1% of poor.

17. 84% of wealthy believe good habits create opportunity luck vs. 4% of poor.

18. 76% of wealthy believe bad habits create detrimental luck vs. 9% of poor.

19. 86% of wealthy believe in lifelong educational self-improvement vs. 5% of poor.

20. 86% of wealthy love to read vs. 26% of poor.

This really rang true for me.
I do a great deal of these things each and every day. 17 out of 20 anyway.
I want everyone to know one thing though. Many of you may that think having a bunch of money makes your life complete. It doesn't.

UncleBuck · Jul 13, 2015

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UncleBuck · Jul 13, 2015

NoDrama said:
Everyone makes plenty of money, that isn't the problem. The problem is that our money has lost so much purchasing power.

real weekly earnings for americans are up under obama and inflation is in check. the dollar's purchasing power is stronger now than when obama took office. your theory is for shit and not based in reality whatsoever.

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