The Freedom To Be Fat..Does Government Have The Right To "Outlaw" Unhealthy Foods?

burgertime2010 · Nov 17, 2013

Doer said:
Ah. So you do get the point. The laws don't work. Death sticks are only out of fashion, because they are death sticks.

Sugars deathsticks? A long stretch there.

Laws are more complicated than just function, in a way they represent our core, us as a country. The data shows a danger greater than mere sugar. If it be the will of the people to feed on sugar-water and have kids that pay the real price then at least the pricetag of the future was evident to someone.

burgertime2010 · Nov 17, 2013

Rob Roy said:
Liberty is logic.

I haven't offered you anything, but if I did it would be with respect for your ability to accept or deny the offer. Your "offers" are uni-lateral and backed by force or the threat of it.

There is no threat anywhere here. Liberty and logic are distinctions that are for most easily visible. Grow a spine and realize force for what it actually is.

Rob Roy · Nov 17, 2013

burgertime2010 said:
There is no threat anywhere here. Liberty and logic are distinctions that are for most easily visible. Grow a spine and realize force for what it actually is.

Okay what is force?

burgertime2010 · Nov 17, 2013

You really ought to look it up, while you are at it threat, logic, and liberty would work better for you if defined.

Rob Roy · Nov 17, 2013

burgertime2010 said:
You really ought to look it up, while you are at it threat, logic, and liberty would work better for you if defined.

Sometimes when people can't answer the questions they change the subject. That could be because they are unable to be consistent and hold to and define their core principles or they simply have flexible principles, which would make them hypocritical. Have a nice day.

Also, when you insult people you reveal alot about who you are.

burgertime2010 · Nov 17, 2013

Rob Roy said:
Sometimes when people can't answer the questions they change the subject. That could be because they are unable to be consistent and hold to and define their core principles or they simply have flexible principles, which would make them hypocritical. Have an nice day.

Nice try dildo.

schuylaar · Nov 17, 2013

Rob Roy said:
Sometimes when people can't answer the questions they change the subject. That could be because they are unable to be consistent and hold to and define their core principles or they simply have flexible principles, which would make them hypocritical. Have a nice day.

Also, when you insult people you reveal alot about who you are.

seriously?..your posts are insulting 9/10 times = 90% of the time

nitro harley · Nov 17, 2013

schuylaar said:
seriously?..your posts are insulting 9/10 times = 90% of the time

What do you think the percentage would be for Buck?..

Rob Roy · Nov 17, 2013

schuylaar said:
seriously?..your posts are insulting 9/10 times = 90% of the time

Citation needed.

I generally don't insult, and endeavor never to insult a person unless insulted by them first. My core philosophy is important to me. What is your core philosophy based on?

burgertime2010 · Nov 17, 2013

No citation needed....just look at any response to me.

Rob Roy · Nov 17, 2013

burgertime2010 said:
No citation needed....just look at any response to me.

Well, if I've insulted you, I apologize. Now, how about answering my question about what your core philosophy is?

Are you the kind of person that thinks it's okay to run others lives or the kind that doesn't?

burgertime2010 · Nov 17, 2013

My objective is to address issues that cause major problems. It is nothing to do with control. Sacrifice is never allowed apparently and liberty hangs in the balance every time a well intended suggestion is proposed.

Doer · Nov 17, 2013

Rob Roy said:
Okay what is force?

It is mass x velocity. It is the power to get you out of the way.

Rob Roy · Nov 17, 2013

burgertime2010 said:
My objective is to address issues that cause major problems. It is nothing to do with control. Sacrifice is never allowed apparently and liberty hangs in the balance every time a well intended suggestion is proposed.

Does telling others what they must do or you will harm them address or cause problems?

Rob Roy · Nov 17, 2013

Doer said:
It is mass x velocity. It is the power to get you out of the way.

Is the use of it against a peaceful person justified? How and where is the end of it if you think it is justified?

Sometimes it is good to mix explosive moves with rest/pause training, but I digress.

Doer · Nov 17, 2013

What Justified? It works and is necessary so it is justified in the code of Justice.

Canna Sylvan · Nov 17, 2013

burgertime2010 said:
My objective is to address issues that cause major problems. It is nothing to do with control. Sacrifice is never allowed apparently and liberty hangs in the balance every time a well intended suggestion is proposed.

That sounds like religion. Unless we feel suffering how can we know grace?

Rob Roy · Nov 17, 2013

Doer said:
What Justified? It works and is necessary so it is justified in the code of Justice.

Then you've just admitted that the playbook of government and the mafia (or insert your own brand of bad guy here) are essentially based on the same thing, the end result only is measured without regard to how it is delivered or gotten.

When you justify something based on it bringing the desireable outcome to you without regard for the means of bringing it about, you are going off half cocked when you view the equation. The means of how a result are gotten, are important, no? Perhaps with your half cocked ideas you could use more blue pills?

schuylaar · Nov 17, 2013

Rob Roy said:
Well, if I've insulted you, I apologize. Now, how about answering my question about what your core philosophy is?

Are you the kind of person that thinks it's okay to run others lives or the kind that doesn't?

RR nobody's trying to run your life..do you think it a good thing that?:

1. credit card companies (ie;banks) can ride roughshod over the unsuspecting consumer with "fees"
2. banks riding roughshod over the unsuspecting "student banker"
2. banks riding roughshod over the 1st time buyer (that clearly don't qualify for traditional financing) with "non-stated adjustables with a 6-point spread"

insurance companies are gluttonous pigs..i've already seen blue cross of florida encouraging you to choose through their website..bypassing other competitors scam..and you don't think the consumer needs protection for these bottom feeders?

meh..you got your own troubles..rob ford..that shit puts anything the us is dealing almost sane :lol:

Doer · Nov 17, 2013

Rob Roy said:
Then you've just admitted that the playbook of government and the mafia (or insert your own brand of bad guy here) are essentially based on the same thing, the end result is only is measured without regard to how it is delivered or gotten.

When you justify something based on it bringing the desireable outcome to you without regard for the means of bringing it about, you are going off half cocked when you view the equation. The means of how a result are gotten, are important, no? Perhaps with your half cocked ideas you could use more blue pills?

I have said this is a Federated Mafia on several occasions. What's with the cowardly insults today?

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