Hey klx, thx for showing us your way of growing!
Im having the problem, that the roots are turning brown and overall not looking great and some plants are dying... i made a couple of mistakes this time...
1st mistake.
the clones were too long inside the cloner, so that all the roots grew together and by seperating the roots i had to rip off some roots. and by that, there are definitely some ripped off, dead roots inbetween the healthy roots. but since im using h2o2 there shouldnt be a problem with that right? all the bad bacterias would get killed anyway...
2nd mistake
the pump was once not turned on for about 3-4 hours. i did not have any hanging leaves yet but i feel like the roots did take some damage...
3rd mistake?
How crucial do you think is it, that the stem does not come below the water level?
bcs mine go all the way down to the bottom of the tray so they get flooded aswell.
so now i try to find what causes my problem.
some roots are brown, some are almost like transparent, some look like they are crippled and some are white
and some roots above surface level and some stems start to get white mold.
did you never have mold on roots that are above the flooding surface level? i mean its always wet down there...
what would be really interesting is, what were the mistakes you made with this system?
G'day!
It is hard to know at your exact problem without knowing all the details of your grow room, environment and nutrients and additives but I can make a few guesses.
1st mistake.
the clones were too long inside the cloner, so that all the roots grew together and by seperating the roots i had to rip off some roots. and by that, there are definitely some ripped off, dead roots inbetween the healthy roots. but since im using h2o2 there shouldnt be a problem with that right? all the bad bacterias would get killed anyway...
What is the % of your H2O2? You really need to be using at least 30% or more for it to be effective and controlling pathogens. What strength are you using, how frequently and how much per application?
You will definitely shock and stall your plants if you let all the roots grow together in the cloner and damage them during transplant. In that scenario I would veg them a week or so in the flood trays to give them time to get over it before flowering them.
2nd mistake
the pump was once not turned on for about 3-4 hours. i did not have any hanging leaves yet but i feel like the roots did take some damage...
Hard to say without a picture. It should be ok because it stays quite humid under the lid of the tray as long as it has a good fit around the edges. If your leaves were not drooping it should be ok. I experimented a lot with different flood times and frequencies, especially during the first week. From memory 30on/30off worked well or even 30on/15off
3rd mistake?
How crucial do you think is it, that the stem does not come below the water level?
bcs mine go all the way down to the bottom of the tray so they get flooded aswell.
Should be ok. It is not optimum but it should be fins as long as you are religiously adding H2O2 and the floods are not too long. There should be plenty of oxygen in the nutrient as it floods.
so now i try to find what causes my problem.
some roots are brown, some are almost like transparent, some look like they are crippled and some are white
and some roots above surface level and some stems start to get white mold.
did you never have mold on roots that are above the flooding surface level? i mean its always wet down there...
what would be really interesting is, what were the mistakes you made with this system?
If any of your roots are slimy then you have pathogens and your H2O2 procedure is not right. Any kind of mold is not good and again suggests to me your H2O2 regimen is not dialled in. I never had mold on my roots or stems because I used H2O2 in the correct quantities and frequencies.
What mistakes did i make? I made all the mistakes because I figured out the system and learnt as I went. This thread was written when I basically had it on cruise control and had my methods down pat.
Good luck with your system!
KLX
