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Mohican

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Not sure - the Big Clone is fading pretty fast - losing all her water leaves. You can see I burned her tips also. I am afraid to water too much because the nights are getting cold and damp. However, the days are still hitting the 90s so I don't know if I should let her dry out. I want to keep her going as long as possible.

How is your outdoor AOS doing?
 

Mohican

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Those scissors have very sharp tips which get me every time I am holding some larf laden spindly twig with one had and cutting it with the other :)
 

Rrog

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Japan makes the worlds finest steel. They can make the best blades as the steel can be thinner and survive. I have a Japanese chef knife that's the nuts.
 

nugbuckets

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Not sure - the Big Clone is fading pretty fast - losing all her water leaves. You can see I burned her tips also. I am afraid to water too much because the nights are getting cold and damp. However, the days are still hitting the 90s so I don't know if I should let her dry out. I want to keep her going as long as possible.

How is your outdoor AOS doing?
i think just moderate water is fine.....i will be taking the A.O.S pretty soon here....they are my last to come in......they are pretty dank, and the cold temps really brought their colors out....they did not get as massive as they have indoors and in the greenie, i think their sativa side balked at the cool temps, and cloudy days.....but they will still make a few folks really happy.:-P
 

snowboarder396

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Japan makes the worlds finest steel. They can make the best blades as the steel can be thinner and survive. I have a Japanese chef knife that's the nuts.
They dont make the worlds finest steels, over time they've just become very good steelworkers and blacksmiths.
 

Rrog

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They dont make the worlds finest steels, over time they've just become very good steelworkers and blacksmiths.
This isn't the thread to argue this, however if you took some time to research this, you would find that US, German and Japanese steel are of different qualities. Japanese, German, then USA in terms of steel quality. The native Japanese Iron Ore has a different crystalline structure that makes it harder, allowing a steeper angle on the blade without distortion.
 

snowboarder396

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This isn't the thread to argue this, however if you took some time to research this, you would find that US, German and Japanese steel are of different qualities. Japanese, German, then USA in terms of steel quality. The native Japanese Iron Ore has a different crystalline structure that makes it harder, allowing a steeper angle on the blade without distortion.
Not trying to argue just making friendly statement :).. And yes quality of steel can be different depending where it is mined from. depending on the impurities within the steel and how refined it is made. ther hardness of the steel is also determined by annealing and how everythings made. the harder you make steel the the stronger it becomes yet at the same time the more brittle it becomes as well..the softer the steel the easier it is to sharpen, the harder it is the harder it is and the longer it takes to sharpen as well. I'm a steelworker/ welder and while I may not have expereince of an actual blacksmith I do know the processes and techniques used in steelworking that can strengthen and weaken steel.

again not trying argue, i'll have to look up what you mentioned, I love learning new things..
 

Rrog

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Nugs, if growing completely indoors do you / would you encourage senescence by some means other than allowing the soil to deplete somewhat? Do you feel there's any value to cooling the plants at night, applying ice to the containers or leaving them in complete darkness for the last few days?

I know this is debated and we discussed this a bit on this thread over the summer. Just looking for opinions as I get ready to finish up this round.

Thanks!
 

nugbuckets

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Nugs, if growing completely indoors do you / would you encourage senescence by some means other than allowing the soil to deplete somewhat? Do you feel there's any value to cooling the plants at night, applying ice to the containers or leaving them in complete darkness for the last few days?

I know this is debated and we discussed this a bit on this thread over the summer. Just looking for opinions as I get ready to finish up this round.

Thanks!
the best way to help a plant to finish properly and in a timely manner, is to time the fade....you want to begin seeing yellowing in the lowers around day 40-45 in most strains....i have used cold water before with mixed results.....one must be careful while flushing and lowering temps in the final weeks of flower. Saturated medium= saturated plant cells.....couple that with low temps, and you have the ideal environment for mold and mildew....that is why i believe it is critical to nail the fade, that way the watering schedule does not have to change, and the grower does not need to "flush" with extra h2o.....just water as usual, and watch her mature without any problems.....one of the most common reasons why a plant won't finish up, is over feeding....her medium becoming a sort of "life support"......
 

nugbuckets

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if i had a plant that missed her fade threshold, and refused to give up her green....that i really wanted to finish, i would flush her with room temp water, and let her drain completely, then i would place her under the lights, blast a fan on her to get her to respirate, and if possible lower the RH in the room to dry her back out as quickly as possible....i always lower the RH in the room anyways to 25-40 in the last two weeks to avoid any mold issues. speaking of mildew...i found a little on my Ace's today, so i moved them out of the greenie and into the shop, where i built them a fire, and turned on the dehum-d....they need to make it until Sat when trim help arrives....thank God for mobile plants!
 

budman678

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i def learned the overfeeding thing the hard way. i am going to go with the "less is more" idiom next time. nugs, thanks for educating all of us.

p.s.= if you need more trim help, you know how to get a hold of me?!
 

Rrog

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Thanks for the thoughts, Nugs. For the sake of completing my research, I'm going to try cooling the room, shutting off the Blumat auto-watering, and ice them at night. I'll be finishing my third run of Plush Berry and I'll have a base reference.

There were some mighty experienced dudes on another thread here at ROI that spoke very highly of this overall method, so using the AC was the last component missing from my trials. I may well never do it again, but who knows.

I've never had mold or mildew issues, I assume because I exchange the air in my tiny space with a larger area with a dehumidifier. Also, the AC running will take a lot of water from the air.

Again, thanks for the thoughts.
 
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