The most over rated strains

|B3RNY| said:

Copyright wouldn't apply to the strains, but this is wrong. Look it up, strains can be trademarked, as AK47 from Serious Seeds is trademarked... hence, no other breeders sell AK47, but can only sell hybrids of it or "Easyryder" (the AK47 X Lowryder cross.) Serious seeds are of the few breeders worthy of a trademark if you ask me.. along with Soma, Sub and Sensi. I, myself, like Greenhouse and Nirvana as well... everything I've grown has been great so far, even bagseeds come out quite 'dank' in the hands of a good grower (I'm not saying a good grower can turn a bunk strain into chronic but you get the picture.) Anyways, yea... AK47 really is trademarked, my pack was also the only strain I've ever had that came with a serial number, a guarantee and a phone call from Serious Seeds, hahaha.

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ok, then how can you explain white widow?? how many breeders sell a ww?? ah, pretty much half of them today offer a white widow.. it's so bad, the original breeder had to change the name from white widow to black widow..

The Chemist Brothers said:

funniest shit is, majority of my favorite tga strains were not bred by subcool, chernobyl and qrazy train were not bred by him, nor were jillybean and agent orange. so i guess hating on the guy for providing polyhybrids is what the cool kids are doing these days.

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that's too funny.. you say how the good strains from tga aren't even breed by sub, yet he's some genius in the same sentence for the most part..

and i don't know about being a cool kid as it seems 99% of the people around here suck sub's dick so hard it's not even funny.. ever seen the size of that weed nerd thread?? more lovers than haters of sub on this forum at least...

right tga is by far the most over rated half the people on this site are in love with sub. I got shit from a few dumbasses for saying subcools not great. he makes some good crosses but hes not a breeder he don't grow enough weed for good selections he showed his breeding room on the weed nerd and he just makes a few crosses with the same males which means hes got probally 4 or more female strains and spreads the pollen over them all and its a small room. he has over 20 strains from a small room. nothing like the warehouses shantibaba or any other good breeder has. subcools breeding room looks like a bedroom. guy needs to take some of that money yall fan boys keep giving him and buy a warehouse in spain or I think switzerland where breedings ok. even the calli connection owns shit in europe.

racerboy71 said:

that's too funny.. you say how the good strains from tga aren't even breed by sub, yet he's some genius in the same sentence for the most part..

and i don't know about being a cool kid as it seems 99% of the people around here suck sub's dick so hard it's not even funny.. ever seen the size of that weed nerd thread?? more lovers than haters of sub on this forum at least...

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|B3RNY| said:

Copyright wouldn't apply to the strains, but this is wrong. Look it up, strains can be trademarked, as AK47 from Serious Seeds is trademarked... hence, no other breeders sell AK47, but can only sell hybrids of it or "Easyryder" (the AK47 X Lowryder cross.) Serious seeds are of the few breeders worthy of a trademark if you ask me.. along with Soma, Sub and Sensi. I, myself, like Greenhouse and Nirvana as well... everything I've grown has been great so far, even bagseeds come out quite 'dank' in the hands of a good grower (I'm not saying a good grower can turn a bunk strain into chronic but you get the picture.) Anyways, yea... AK47 really is trademarked, my pack was also the only strain I've ever had that came with a serial number, a guarantee and a phone call from Serious Seeds, hahaha.

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I have to agree here, Simon from SS really knows his stuff and is very personable in real life. He is a true geneticist. Some of the others, Arjan from GH Seeds, come across as businessman, There's a load of Spanish Seed Co's here and they are quite dedicated (Eva Seeds, Genethiks etc) however, there seem to be too many new Seed Co's opening up selling the same strains and crosses which makes the majority of growers revert back to the original strains from Original Dutch Co's.

Also; I love the argument about who started the original Cheese !!

Its not copyright that prints out a serial number its good customer support. Its their to be able to lock down batch number to the T.
Some breeders put dates on their seeds others dont, some change their labels every now and then to remind people these are fresher.

hey... if ANYONE knows of a trippier or otherwise better strain than TGA's jack's cleaner 2 and that ISN'T named after murder which is an issue with me, deal with it, and that flowers close to the 9 week range, i'd love to hear all about it. is sannies' jack herer trippier? cool, that'll be my next sample.

i do agree that TGA does have a fanatical, almost cultish following, but as far as i'm concerned, his JC2 is the best bud i've ever smoked that wasn't grown outdoors in california and that i can put a name to. i smoked a really trippy bud a couple years ago that i'm positive was columbian gold, or at least a hybrid as it had the same grassy pine cone kind of odor purveyors of the "bag appeal myth" would dismiss (made me fucking happy just to taste it!) and that had a similar trippy buzz that was too much when i got talked into clearing a huge chamber and woofed, got nauseous with light spinning effects, and more than anything, had to get the fuck out of there because i couldn't take listening to the heavy metal from one of my hosts playing guitar hero.

anyone that would dare call JC2 schwag either doesn't like getting high, or is spoiled rotten smoking 17 week IBLs. i'm not a TGA fan because he's popular, he's my fave because JC2 gave me more trippy high than anything else i've smoked since the mid 80s and i really loved how touchy/feely it was like the yucky tasting, but totally fun high of diesel tasting onyx.

what's better than JC2 that i can do indoors that isn't a celebration of the abomination or murder, doesn't taste like the abomination of petroleum, doesn't smell like a dead skunk & that's easy to do indoors around 9 weeks? come on TGA haters... tell what i should try, and if it truly is better, then i'll have a new favorite breeder

I will admit to curiosity about Rare Dankness' Somali Taxi Ride. But I'm not a big fan of Pheno Treasure Hunt. cn

yeah... who has the time and space to test 100+ plants for one that's even better when a truly good strain should have awesome to awesomer plants. i was impressed with my joey weed C99s in that regard. i had tall phenos and shorties too, but the smoke was consistent enough that nothing seemed radically different to me. i guess just getting high without getting stoned is "good enough" for me, but some strains are definitely better than others

I'm sure nevilles haze is way trippier and stronger than jc2 and of course its not schwag he uses good seeds from good breeders for his crosses I'm sure you won't find two of the same phenos in a tga 10 pack though
aint you the guy who chops his plants way to early? you can't judge a strain if you don't grow it out all the way. theirs no way jacks cleaner is the best strain in the world how many strains have you personaly grown to completion?

hazey grapes said:

hey... if ANYONE knows of a trippier or otherwise better strain than TGA's jack's cleaner 2 and that ISN'T named after murder which is an issue with me, deal with it, and that flowers close to the 9 week range, i'd love to hear all about it. is sannies' jack herer trippier? cool, that'll be my next sample.

i do agree that TGA does have a fanatical, almost cultish following, but as far as i'm concerned, his JC2 is the best bud i've ever smoked that wasn't grown outdoors in california and that i can put a name to. i smoked a really trippy bud a couple years ago that i'm positive was columbian gold, or at least a hybrid as it had the same grassy pine cone kind of odor purveyors of the "bag appeal myth" would dismiss (made me fucking happy just to taste it!) and that had a similar trippy buzz that was too much when i got talked into clearing a huge chamber and woofed, got nauseous with light spinning effects, and more than anything, had to get the fuck out of there because i couldn't take listening to the heavy metal from one of my hosts playing guitar hero.

anyone that would dare call JC2 schwag either doesn't like getting high, or is spoiled rotten smoking 17 week IBLs. i'm not a TGA fan because he's popular, he's my fave because JC2 gave me more trippy high than anything else i've smoked since the mid 80s and i really loved how touchy/feely it was like the yucky tasting, but totally fun high of diesel tasting onyx.

what's better than JC2 that i can do indoors that isn't a celebration of the abomination or murder, doesn't taste like the abomination of petroleum, doesn't smell like a dead skunk & that's easy to do indoors around 9 weeks? come on TGA haters... tell what i should try, and if it truly is better, then i'll have a new favorite breeder

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serious seeds, mr. nice, sensi seeds, dutch passion, dj short, greenhouse probally barney's farm I know theirs a lot more I know it was legal in switzerland to produce marijuana seeds and thats where some the breeders warehouses are
and they aint looking for good, pretty good phenos their looking for awsome superb phenos only the best of the best of the best

hazey grapes said:

yeah... who has the time and space to test 100+ plants for one that's even better when a truly good strain should have awesome to awesomer plants. i was impressed with my joey weed C99s in that regard. i had tall phenos and shorties too, but the smoke was consistent enough that nothing seemed radically different to me. i guess just getting high without getting stoned is "good enough" for me, but some strains are definitely better than others

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bluntmassa1 said:

I'm sure nevilles haze is way trippier and stronger than jc2 and of course its not schwag he uses good seeds from good breeders for his crosses I'm sure you won't find two of the same phenos in a tga 10 pack though
aint you the guy who chops his plants way to early? you can't judge a strain if you don't grow it out all the way. theirs no way jacks cleaner is the best strain in the world how many strains have you personaly grown to completion?

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it depends on what strain honestly, i popped a 5 pack of ace of spades looking for a male, 2 plants are nearly identical, they are both mutating buds on the leaves, the smells are almost exactly the same, the height are the same, and they mature at the same rate, i have another pheno with the similar mutation of weird fan leaf growth and budfanleafs but it smells much better than the other 2(bcs dominant). i think i have a keeper from just 1 5 pack so.... i'm happy.

heres a vid, this tent is tiny, like 3'x3'x5', use it for seed making and testing new plants, another tent for stress testing.

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racerboy71 said:

that's too funny.. you say how the good strains from tga aren't even breed by sub, yet he's some genius in the same sentence for the most part..

and i don't know about being a cool kid as it seems 99% of the people around here suck sub's dick so hard it's not even funny.. ever seen the size of that weed nerd thread?? more lovers than haters of sub on this forum at least...

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I grew out two Jilly Bean plants and they sucked they grew legit and all except the jilly bean that looked best has no fucking scent to it. you growers know what I'm talking about. Right before harvest you touch the bud and your finger reeks of fresh bud well this one straight up smells like a fucking plastic cup..Looks beautiful but no odor lol.

i'm not saying jack's cleaner 2 is the best in the world by any stretch. i'm inclined to bet that my malawi golds are even better, but JC2 is a 9 week strain and not a 12+ like neville'$ haze (not an option ever) and other IBL leaning strains. it's the best practical strain i've grown, and i liked the high just as much as columbian gold. it's a very sensual touchy feely kind of buzz and i like that a lot, just as much as light & floaty gold.

i'm not out for "the most potent strain in the world" either. i'm not that hard to please. i just despise getting stoned with every fiber of my being since the day i got "ripped off" by about 3 grams of 2 different indicas for the $8 i had in my pocket that didn't get me high or inspire me to to the art i'd planned like gold did.

if a strain just gets me high, i'm happy enough. in fact, the more mellow natured 8 miles high is my 24/7 favorite maybe because it just has a mellow personality. IBLs aren't fun when you take that one toke more than you should and you get the dreaded room spinning dizzies.

so far, i've harvested early in both of my last 2 grows. in the last one, it was just because it looked like my gals were finished and the seeds looked mature, and this last grow, it was forced when all of my gals got polkadot hot spot burns the night i forgot to turn my fan on for a couple hours, but i'm happy enough there too as i got to try a bunch of different strains and learn sativa trans-love buds like crazy leaving other strains in the dust for fast THC production and sweet haze is a couple notches above common jacks, hazes & thais. but i just got high every day as long as the bud lasted, and that's good enough for me.

i don't have the same obsession for doing everything "by the numbers at maximum efficiency" as many of you. i just want to get high as soon as possible as much as possible. it makes life bearable. you know what... i'm going to blaze some brownleaf schwag right now, and i'll enjoy it more than the stickiest afghani anyone here thinks has bag appeal. it tastes crappy & is harsh, but it gets me where i wanna be.

BeaverHuntr said:

I grew out two Jilly Bean plants and they sucked they grew legit and all except the jilly bean that looked best has no fucking scent to it. you growers know what I'm talking about. Right before harvest you touch the bud and your finger reeks of fresh bud well this one straight up smells like a fucking plastic cup..Looks beautiful but no odor lol.

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how was it grown, just curious. jb was one of the better smelling plants i've grown, i don't keep it around since it can be herm prone.

@hazey how can yo claim your malawi gold is better than jc2? You have no completed grows only failed ones!
lol

Omgwtfbbq Indicaman said:

how was it grown, just curious. jb was one of the better smelling plants i've grown, i don't keep it around since it can be herm prone.

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It was grown indoors with Canna Coco and House and Garden Nutes.. I have a sealed environment with co2 & two 1000 HPS.. The plant grew like a champ it just is not producing any scent what so ever from the bud. It was grown along side Alien OG, OG Hazy, Jupiter OG, and Super Silver Haze... I guess it was a lame ass pheno.

hellraizer30 said:

@hazey how can yo claim your malawi gold is better than jc2? You have no completed grows only failed ones!
lol

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how can you take my words out of context and twist them like that? without playing your little troll game, i bet i said "i BET" or "i IMAGINE" that malawai gold is better because in theory, it's a pure IBL and an IBL is, uh... more IBL than an hybrid. do logical connections, even proper quotes elude you on a daily?

I think that comparing seed companies can somewhat difficult. I mean I have different expectations from different companies/different breeding practices.

I just grew out 3 strains from TGA for instance. Querkle, Apollo 13 BX and Plushberry. Each did as I expected going into growing them out. The Apollo is a backcross, I expected little pheno variation and got it. All the plants were pretty similar.
The Querkle and the Plushberry were more varied, as I expected.

I understood going into those strains that I wasn't buying F7 seeds or something. The idea of pheno hunting was fine with me going into the grow. I'm happy with the gear, I got a keeper of each strain and a great Querkle male.

hellraizer30 said:

@hazey how can yo claim your malawi gold is better than jc2? You have no completed grows only failed ones!
lol

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how can you take my words out of context and twist them like that? without playing your little troll game, i bet i said "i BET" or "i IMAGINE" that malawai gold is better because in theory, it's a pure IBL and an IBL is, uh... more IBL than an hybrid. do logical connections, even proper quotes elude you on a daily?

i can't make ANY claims about holy smokes' malawi other than "it looks promising" as i haven't experienced it forst hand yet and only have it's WELL KNOWN reputation as one of the top sativas in the world which you would too if you did a little more reading and a lot les finger pointing

Still living in the haze! Hazey