The Obama plan vs. the Ryan plan

JoSixChip

Member
please don't confuse them with numbers...

Ya, save 4.5 trillion dollars over ten years if you gut the military, Current budget deficit is only 1.6 trillion for a single year. At the end of ten years we'll only be a total of 25 trillion in debt. Your right, liberal logic always confuses me.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
You don't contribute, you shouldn't be allowed to vote, PERIOD. And yes that include the elderly, the retarded, the homeless, the illegal aliens and anybody else that isn't shouldering their share of the load.

Oh, and I am an active member of the TEA Party.


why am i not surprised?
 

MediMarij

Active Member
No one said GUT the military. If the US can't run an efficient Defense with a quarter Trillion dollar budget they need to hire some Business grads. I argue EVEN THIS IS TOO MUCH This is just going to make the future worst and more dangerous by revengeful sons and grandsons in higher population simply because the population is growing . I argue that there are terrorists in a ghetto near you, and not from the countries were in war with. Gang murders are terrorist acts aren't they? Change up the priorities of the "Defense CORPORATION" TO ACTUALLY(PHYSICALLY PROTECT US CITIZENS IN THE US).
 

JoSixChip

Member
No one said GUT the military. If the US can't run an efficient Defense with a quarter Trillion dollar budget they need to hire some Business grads. I argue EVEN THIS IS TOO MUCH This is just going to make the future worst and more dangerous by revengeful sons and grandsons in higher population simply because the population is growing . I argue that there are terrorists in a ghetto near you, and not from the countries were in war with. Gang murders are terrorist acts aren't they? Change up the priorities of the "Defense CORPORATION" TO ACTUALLY(PHYSICALLY PROTECT US CITIZENS IN THE US).
If your worried about vengeful sons and grandsons of highly populated 3rd work countries, let me leave you with this thought. One day we will actually come up with a workable alternative energy source and we will not need all that middle estern oil. What do you think those sons and grandsons are going to do when we stop sending trillions of dollars over there every year?
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
If your worried about vengeful sons and grandsons of highly populated 3rd work countries, let me leave you with this thought. One day we will actually come up with a workable alternative energy source and we will not need all that middle estern oil. What do you think those sons and grandsons are going to do when we stop sending trillions of dollars over there every year?
be happy that America is not intervering with them for oil
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
i was listening to ryan talk about his plan on npr today. he actually acquitted himself pretty well.

still wouldn't support it, but he did a good job explaining his wealth redistribution plan.
 

MediMarij

Active Member
If your worried about vengeful sons and grandsons of highly populated 3rd work countries, let me leave you with this thought. One day we will actually come up with a workable alternative energy source and we will not need all that middle estern oil. What do you think those sons and grandsons are going to do when we stop sending trillions of dollars over there every year?
I'm not scared, I don't judge people based on there origin/religion/tradition. The TeaBagger's are the most scared brainwashed political party in the world. WAR WAR WAR is all that's been taught and learned. Well that and anything fox news is broadcasting. I learn from statistics and analyzing data and then coming up with solutions. Your argument to this is "O you and your books" LOL
 

JoSixChip

Member
I'm not scared, I don't judge people base on there origin/religion/tradition. The TeaBagger's are the most scared brainwashed political part in the world. WAR WAR WAR is all that's been taught and learned. Well that and anything fox news is broadcasting. I learn from statistics and analyzing data and then coming up with solutions. Your argument to this is "O you and your books" LOL
A wise man once said something like "Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it". You have clearly lost any sense of history.

Oh, and don't think that insult to FOX news when't unnoticed, I'm crushed!
 

Balzac89

Undercover Mod
I like how the ryan plan just barely looks like it sneaks by what Obama planned to make it look better.
 

JoSixChip

Member
People hate Obama's proposal because it has Obama in it.
Ya, that's it. It has nothing to do with the massive expansion of government or the multi trillion dollar budgets or the divisive class and racial warfare he is waging in this country. And I'm sure it was not his injecting himself into the private sector by yanking proprty from stock holders and giving it to the unions or spending a trillion dollars under the guise of keeping unemployment under 8% to payoff his campaign contributors. Na, it's because the name obumber.
 

MediMarij

Active Member
A wise man once said something like "Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it". You have clearly lost any sense of history.

Oh, and don't think that insult to FOX news when't unnoticed, I'm crushed!
Exactly we should look at the history of empires over extending, going broke then collapsing.
 

Serapis

Well-Known Member
Actually, you forgot to cite the 218 that are still in the works.... ;)

but I would expect something like that...

actual promise kept and they are as follows: 134 promises kept, 370 not kept. According to Uncle Buck, 50% is failing so this must be REALLY bad, huh?
There was one interesting promise kept that I DID notice however that throws the whole thing in question:
 

Balzac89

Undercover Mod
Ya, that's it. It has nothing to do with the massive expansion of government or the multi trillion dollar budgets or the divisive class and racial warfare he is waging in this country. And I'm sure it was not his injecting himself into the private sector by yanking proprty from stock holders and giving it to the unions or spending a trillion dollars under the guise of keeping unemployment under 8% to payoff his campaign contributors. Na, it's because the name obumber.
I know you hate black people its not your fault
 

JoSixChip

Member
Exactly we should look at the history of empires over extending, going broke then collapsing.
Please look up the term empires and enlighten me how that applies to America. Unless you are suggesting that obumber is our single supreme ruler, then no explanation is needed.
 

MediMarij

Active Member
Ya, that's it. It has nothing to do with the massive expansion of government or the multi trillion dollar budgets or the divisive class and racial warfare he is waging in this country. And I'm sure it was not his injecting himself into the private sector by yanking proprty from stock holders and giving it to the unions or spending a trillion dollars under the guise of keeping unemployment under 8% to payoff his campaign contributors. Na, it's because the name obumber.
Teabagger the reason why government is so large is sipmly because the population has grown.

Census Pop. %±
1790 3,929,214
—
1800 5,236,631 33.3%
1810 7,239,881 38.3%
1820 9,638,453 33.1%
1830 12,866,020 33.5%
1840 17,069,453 32.7%
1850 23,191,876 35.9%
1860 31,443,321 35.6%
1870 38,558,371 22.6%
1880 49,371,340 28.0%
1890 62,979,766 27.6%
1900 76,212,168 21.0%
1910 92,228,496 21.0%
1920 106,021,537 15.0%
1930 123,202,624 16.2%
1940 132,164,569 7.3%
1950 151,325,798 14.5%
1960 179,323,175 18.5%
1970 203,211,926 13.3%
1980 226,545,805 11.5%
1990 248,709,873 9.8%
2000 281,421,906 13.2%
2010 308,745,538 9.7%

Until both parties realize this they will never come close to solving the problem. To make any comparisons to this president or that president. Regan this Regan that. Republicans were able to do this and that. Currently there are close to 309m US citizens. The most important issue at hand is unemployment. Unless the population decreases drastically or the corporation made zero profits layoffs should be illegal. The main reason why corps or local gov;s to this is to beef up bottom lines or to keep fat salaries and benefits(pub sect). That fact is they need to hire more people at lower wages. Gov shouldn't pay unemployment benefits but create jobs with that pay??? Is this to complicated?
 
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