The Official Canna Coco & Nutrients Thread

[HighSeeker]

Thanks for the reply Mr. Ganja.

a. I have been spraying my babies with Azamax to kill off some mites I inherited. Now that the mites are gone, I was hoping to give them something good on the leaves to make them happy
b. soil - Bio Terra organic soil mix
c. Rhizo as a foliar spray- don't know, just saw that someone mentioned they used it as a foliar.
d. good good...just water on the clones, no nutes. That has been my practice in the past, just wasn't sure with the Canna if their chart was recommending something different.
e. good good...no flushing till the end. Yes, if using some crap nutes the salt builds up quick. I'm hoping not to have that problem with the Canna Bio.
f. Nutes Im using to match the Bio chart are-Canna Bio Vega, Bio Rhizotonic, Cannazyme, Bio Flores and Bio Boost (which is everything on the Bio feeding schedule)

 

[SiccFarmer]

question if i have canna coco and a & b nutes will that get me thru everything? i have 2 CFL 1 is 2ft 24w other is 4ft 54w they r in veg stage maybe a month or less away from flowering? if needed i can provide pics...also i heard i could use less a or b in flowering stage is that right?? i forget which one but less a i think

 

[jberry]

Hey jberry thanks for doin this thread. Bcuz of you I've made the switch from dirt to coco, and I'm lovin it. The growth has been explosive. My girls have tripled in size in a weeks time and look great. I'm definatley seein the advantages of coco. The a and b is so simple, yet a little pricey though. I hit you up a couple weeks ago in this thread with the concern of 2 , 3 gallon pots and watering frequency. Anyways thanks to you I'm glad I made the switch. I need to hit you up with a couple more questions. First off I'm runnin some Blue Dream and Cheese. I clicked them to 12/12 at around 12 inches. Theyve exploded with growth, but are yellowing especially under the lights. Temps max low 80, humidity 60- 70%. Started calmag in the beginning at 5 mls per gallon. Last feeding increased to 8 mls on half of them. Noticed some rust spotting occuring today. Canna suggests that a starting ec of .2 is good. I have a well water starting ec of .6. This yellowing turning worse has been a reoccuring problem for me. Maybe I should get my water tested to see the calcium, iron, mag, etc content. I was thinking of hitting half of them with 10 mls of calmag and the other half with no calmag to start diagnosing this problem. Any input would really be appreciated.
One more thing, the way these dream are climbing I'm worried about their height. With canna coco do they slow down soon or do you hit them with something like bushmaster to halt them? Last time in dirt I vegged a little too long to get some good roots and ended up with my hoods on the ceiling.

maybe your lights are too close? are u using the same light for veg and flower?

otherwise i would try the cal/mag on hlaf as you sugggested, when you demand a lot of out of your plants and first switch to 12/12, it is common to get Mg defs. and the extra N and Fe could be helpful as well.

i dont use bushmaster or anything for the height... just dont veg them too big and i almost always top them.

 

[jberry]

no word on resusing canna TPP?

im expecting a callback today fyi

 

[jberry]

Thanks for the quick reply! Hopefully someone else will post with some foliar spray info.

HS

everyone wondering about foliars with the rhizo...

Rhizo is a great foliar that can be used until flowering starts... Here is the foliar directions for the Rhizo and Boost:

Approximately 2 ml/gal on the Rhizotonic, but can vary up or down based on the sensitivity of the plant to translaminer movement.

The hormones and some vitamins will be what is taken up and they work at very low levels. However, if needed you can go up but the high limit will be about half of the normal amount used for root feeding. This is a growers choice. I would not apply it in flower for many reasons as a foliar. You can adjust the pH but gently and make it come in around 7 or a little higher. You only have to be close. After about the second week past flower initiation I would not use it foliar anymore but you should use it from the beginning... Apply about 3 times per week or every other day.


Boost is a bit different; use it at the low rate, 8 ml/gal applied every other day. It has little EC and will not affect the plant to much. Also, only adjust the pH if it is way out of bounds but if between 5.2 and 7.9 don't worry about it. Apply from the point of photoperiod change (12/12) to about 1 week prior to harvest if possible.

Only wet the leaves very close to the lights coming on when room temps are cooler and there is sufficent time for the leaves to dry before dark. Avoid directly spraying flowers.

 

[jberry]

subscribed im using the bio canna range with pk and boost ..

got a question

this would be my first attempt at cloning which i didnt realli make a proper go at it. but i did take a few cuttings of my mates plants, used rooting hormoan and dumped them into the grow room. as expected they went to hell and back over the last 2 weeks but the look of things they are starting to grow new shoots. so my question is by using the rhizo wil this help the cuttings grow more roots and have a better root base ??

well it contains root stimulating hormones, so yes it should.

 

[jberry]

question if i have canna coco and a & b nutes will that get me thru everything? i have 2 CFL 1 is 2ft 24w other is 4ft 54w they r in veg stage maybe a month or less away from flowering? if needed i can provide pics...also i heard i could use less a or b in flowering stage is that right?? i forget which one but less a i think

yea you could use just the A/B but i would suggest adding the PK 13/14 at the proper time if you can afford it.

use the A/B in the equal amounts.

 

[[norcal]]

Jberry thanks for replying. Yes I use the same lights for veg, but veg time is always less than a week. Got hortilux bulbs. Got air cooled hoods up about 18 inches. Should be good. Just changed out almost everything. Upgraded to digital ballasts, new bulbs, canna coco and nutes, smart pots, even threw in a different strain to see "cheese". But I got the this def. again. So I separated into three areas, one got zero calmag, one got 5 mls, and one got 10 mls. Will try that for a few to see. I"ve been watering everyother day. Thats a chore with three different rez's to mix, ph and hand water. I went to the canna site and did some reading on the coco. Unfortunatley they seem to not recommend flood and drain or drip watering. think I'll set up a drip to get a break once in a while, but mainly run the wand. Diggin the canna so far. Growth with it has been killer.

 

[jberry]

be careful with the cal/mag. too much calcium will lockout Mg. and too much, too early could cause a gang of hurt...

i think 10ml per gal of cal/mag is going to be too high unless ur using RO water... it could be too high even if u are imo, but it might be okay tho, your call on that one.

i usually use 3ml per gallon myself.

 

[SiccFarmer]

yea you could use just the A/B but i would suggest adding the PK 13/14 at the proper time if you can afford it.

use the A/B in the equal amounts.

how much can i expect to yield (ballpark) from random reggie seeds? and your avg white widow? if u know...sorrry to bug you thx for speedy reply btw

 

[jberry]

that depends on how big u veg them and your growing skills and methods, ect, but ball park is 1-3+ ounces off a 1-3 foot tall plant is what i would expect.

if you grow a big 5-6 foot bush then you could yield 5 times that amount, so its pretty hard to answer that question without knowing what your doing.

you can get good results with almost any decent brand of nutrients.

 

[laceygirl]

I love love love Rhizotonic... Its been very good to me.. I have got seedlings to pop and be well on their way in 3 days with Rhizotonic... Its good stuff....

 

[rustybud]

well it contains root stimulating hormones, so yes it should.

sweet thanx for da reply + rep 4 u ..

 

[billybob88]

Alright I'm sick of the $450 a bottle for Boost. Does anyone know what I could make to replicate the boost, or is Canna just keeping it so super secret and wont tell anyone?

I know there is someone out there that can answer my question.

 

[SiccFarmer]

ok so here it goes i am using a 24w 2ft CFL T5 & a 4ft 54w T5 for veg i was thinking today its bout time to start flowering they are all approx. 1 1/2ft tall. with that said im using canna coco only no petrilite or anything just coco and canna A & B. I have no other nutes or boosts or n e of this amazing stuff you all talk about on here. will i be ok? i also found a 300w light in my room im not sure what kind it is? will this harm the plants? my thinking was more light better growth. i also have some supposed more reflective than mylar stuff that you can spray your plants and not have to worry about harming the reflective surface. im trying my best its obviously my first time heres some pics ALL comments welcome THX JBERRY for all our feedback please comment im interested to hear what you have to say.

 

[jberry]

Alright I'm sick of the $450 a bottle for Boost. Does anyone know what I could make to replicate the boost, or is Canna just keeping it so super secret and wont tell anyone?

I know there is someone out there that can answer my question.

its a super secret... i would just start using it as a foliar (foliars will work good and cost waay less) ...or u could just use it during the major growth spurts (weeks 2 and 3 of flower during the "stretch", and maybe again when you are using the PK 13/14)... or you could stop using it all together and it wont effect your yields much, if at all.

I had the idea of using H&G Bud XL instead of boost but it turns out that they arent really the same thing... ive heard a semi reliable rumor that some of the same extracts/ingredients that are in boost are also in Soul Synthetics Amino Aide, but i cant confirm or deny if its true or not... The owner of the company that makes Soul Synthetics Amino Aide will admit that there is secret ingredients in it that most companies arent using... idk.

that stuff is not cheap either tho and is very high in N.

 

[green army]

an anyone tell me if Canna Boost is worth the £50 per litre price tag,im not tight & believe in buying the best but would actually like to hear it it all it is cracked up to be off some real people who have tried & tested it.

 

[jberry]

to me its not worth it because it doesnt improve yields and is too expensive

but it MAY speed flower time and increase resin production and taste... growers choice

 

[laceygirl]

its a super secret... i would just start using it as a foliar (foliars will work good and cost waay less) ...or u could just use it during the major growth spurts (weeks 2 and 3 of flower during the "stretch", and maybe again when you are using the PK 13/14)... or you could stop using it all together and it wont effect your yields much, if at all.

I had the idea of using H&G Bud XL instead of boost but it turns out that they arent really the same thing... ive heard a semi reliable rumor that some of the same extracts/ingredients that are in boost are also in Soul Synthetics Amino Aide, but i cant confirm or deny if its true or not... The owner of the company that makes Soul Synthetics Amino Aide will admit that there is secret ingredients in it that most companies arent using... idk.

that stuff is not cheap either tho and is very high in N.

I agree, I used a whole bottle of boost with my grow this time, and to be honest with you, I didn't see that much of a difference and I've been growing for a while now... I do however love love love Pk 13-14 by canna, now there you can see a difference. A bloody big one... It really really works, and its awesome... I would recommend Pk over boost any day of the week....

Laceygirl...

 

[~Shhh~]

I agree, I used a whole bottle of boost with my grow this time, and to be honest with you, I didn't see that much of a difference and I've been growing for a while now... I do however love love love Pk 13-14 by canna, now there you can see a difference. A bloody big one... It really really works, and its awesome... I would recommend Pk over boost any day of the week....

Laceygirl...

This is my first time using boost, so I can't comment on it's effectiveness but I am going the foliar feed route for first 2 weeks after pistils show, this will sav a large amount of boost then I will add to the rez for the remaining 4 weeks, you can apply the max dose 4ml per liter and only be using 20ml per 5 liters... That will give quite a few plants a good soaking I reckon