Hey Az thanks for the response, i just read on hg's website and they recommend the bud xl first site of flower...but ill do what you said and hit it right after the pk 1314 along with the sweet...my line will consist of canna ab, cannazym, pro silicate, gh rapid start(supposed to be like rhizo or roots excel any advice on this? not sure if it works the same or not), calmag plus, pk1314, little epsom salts in first couple weeks of bloom, bud xl and the sweet....... and now maybe the budswell? who makes this and is there any product you could compare it to? cheers!!
The Official Canna Coco & Nutrients Thread
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AzCannaMan
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Hey guys, it is BUDSWEL not Budswell, I really am not a moron lol - It's from the guano company. Bat guano to be persice. Just google Budswel and it comes up, i like the liquid, only because i am lazy though LOL Powder is cheaper, but a gallon of the pre mixed tea is only $32 which feels like a steal to me since I've bought $100 for 1L nutes before that were a complete and total fucking waste of $ (AN)
Sorry tho, cant compare it to the Boost for you. I have never got the boost because from my past experience I IMO do not think any nutes are justified at that kind of price. $100 for 1L or $500 for 5L is just too much, i'll figure out an alternative to keep costs down.
Go ahead and use the sweet earlier, like a week or 2 into bloom. Just wait on the BudXL and start it right after the PK. Works very well for me.
I LOVE the budswel too - did I mention that? Not that the smell was modist before - but more is better in that area IMHO. Supposedly it makes a big flavor impact too, which I do not find hard to believe judging from the smell increase (which smells just what it should taste like)
Ful-power is the shit too, you obviously know whats up birdman. It's by far the best Humic/Fulvic out there... Freshwater bogs and what not..I've been out of the loop for awhile, but what is budswell? Have we come to an agreement that it works as well as bio boost? The last week of flower my girls get 10-15ml ful power, 10 ml hygrozyme. My smell has always been superb but I am curious to see how that budswell stacks up against the boost.thanks for the info canna man
Sorry tho, cant compare it to the Boost for you. I have never got the boost because from my past experience I IMO do not think any nutes are justified at that kind of price. $100 for 1L or $500 for 5L is just too much, i'll figure out an alternative to keep costs down.
Budswel
Go ahead and use the sweet earlier, like a week or 2 into bloom. Just wait on the BudXL and start it right after the PK. Works very well for me.
I LOVE the budswel too - did I mention that? Not that the smell was modist before - but more is better in that area IMHO. Supposedly it makes a big flavor impact too, which I do not find hard to believe judging from the smell increase (which smells just what it should taste like)
AzCannaMan
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Order online?It also has worm castings and seabird guano too right?
I can't find it in CanadaI tried looking for it this week.
GreenThumb2k10
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can really tell the difference in using the full line of Canna Coco, pop over to my thread and take a look. links in my sig, get sub'd up
jela10
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Say AZCannaMan, sprouts are up in my rapid rooter/mapito starter hempy cups..they just saw their first dose of Canna Substra after 5 days of Rhizotonic only...can you tell me if I'll need to add supplementary Cal/Mg to Substra like we all do in coco with Canna Coco A&B? I'm thinking that was just a coco thing.....
BBB1974
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I know I can do that, but then I have to pay duty costs importing it. Plus by the time it gets here, there won't be much time left
Maybe for a future grow.
AzCannaMan
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If you use tap water and the hard formula probably not, if you use RO water and the Soft formula it may be a good idea to still add some. Try 1/2 of what you were doing in Coco in that circumstance..
Even for just the last week I would get it... It's pretty cheap and they really seemed to like it judging by the aroma increase almost instantly.I know I can do that, but then I have to pay duty costs importing it. Plus by the time it gets here, there won't be much time left
Maybe for a future grow.
I'm going to start using it earlier on future rounds too...
nathanowen20
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i have a 1.2m2 grow tent with 9 plants 4 week veg period very crowded in there all around 3 and a hlaf foot tall and lookin extremely healthy despite the lack of space, i have been usin canna vegga and when i turned them on to 12/12 i started using canna flora there currently 2 weeks into flower and starting to show good signs of things to come and have had a massive growth spirt the last few days, there is one 600wt umbrella shape lamp shade in the and a temperature controll unit keeping the room constant at 26degress with fresh air constantly being blow in and the filter is on to anyone give me any pointers or products to use to get the best yield from my p,lants??
BBB1974
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Hey AZ, what's the exact composition of the Budswel? I found this at my local store and was thinking of using it instead since it's easily obtainable. ($26 for 1L)
I know you don't like AN, but this stuff sounds pretty good. It's the AN Mother Earth Super Tea..
http://www.advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/products/mother_earth_super_tea/mother_earth_super_tea_faq_nutrient_facts.php
I know you don't like AN, but this stuff sounds pretty good. It's the AN Mother Earth Super Tea..
http://www.advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/products/mother_earth_super_tea/mother_earth_super_tea_faq_nutrient_facts.php
AzCannaMan
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Seems pretty pricy (as AN is known for) The Budswel is about 1/4 the cost (but you'll have to add shipping) since it's about $32 a Gal online.Hey AZ, what's the exact composition of the Budswel? I found this at my local store and was thinking of using it instead since it's easily obtainable. ($26 for 1L)
I know you don't like AN, but this stuff sounds pretty good. It's the AN Mother Earth Super Tea..
http://www.advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/products/mother_earth_super_tea/mother_earth_super_tea_faq_nutrient_facts.php
If your going AN get try the Nirvana. I might try that one myself. Last time I was in the hydro store the AN rep came in as I was spouting off about Canna. I mentioned I didnt like the cost of the boost and he mentioned that one of the ingredients in Boost if Alfalfa and their Nirvana is the only other supplement out there with it in it. Also has Humic, Fulvic and some other jazz. Plus it's all organic. It aint Budswel, but it also is not $100 a L which makes it one of the least expensive AN additives.
If the shipping is too much of a hassle and you want to try something similar get a bat guano that's high in P. That's basically the Budswel
Edit: conversation above is proof AN is lying f****** snakes lol. GGuess they have Alfalfa in the super tea too and he just must have forgotten. Kinda sad for the AN rep...
galwaygrower
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where is best place 2 get cal/mag?? hydro shop?? are is there anywhere cheaper, i live on the isle of wight and shop here more expensive than 1 in pompey
AzCannaMan
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galwaygrower
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its ok, i have been reading thru all this thread and i am using tap water and it is perfect, also the guy in my hydro store never mentioned anything about the nutes and shit bringing ph down, i am lucky my plants survived, i think he just wanted me 2 buy as much as i could
galwaygrower
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hi guys, I am having some problems at the min, today is my 7th day on 12/12 flowering, for the last cpl days some of the new growth has been growing a bright green
this is my 1st grow............................please please help my lemon skunk girls
this is my 1st grow............................please please help my lemon skunk girls
AzCannaMan
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Pics are worth a thousand words....
galwaygrower
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i know i know, i am sorry but have no camera at the min, it actually looks a little like ur avatar pic the lime green leaves growing in the new growth, i have been reading up on it and sounds like a zinc def...........I have given them a little foliar feed with min nutes, i hope they are ok, i will try and sort pics, i am sorry 2 annoy u with my problems
AzCannaMan
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Not a bother, they are lime green in my avatar from growing super fast. I wonder if you have a def or if it's just really vigorous new growth?
Is the plant growing rapidly?
Do the light green areas in the center fill out to be bigger dark green areas that look normal?
galwaygrower
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seem to have everything under control now was a slight zinc def, also i had some fungus on the main stem near the soil, i posted about it a cpl weeks ago and was told its just new roots but i have now made more light get to bottom of stem by trimming and have fan in there now
micadesgns
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azcannaman, where can i get budxl?? has it worked for you???