The police have a a new canabis detection device.

Brick Top

New Member
this has become a comedy thread, whoever believes this needs rehab, they just aquitted a guy in yakima wa for having 201 plants and serving patients. he even had a criminal drug history, i love this state lol, so no worries here. dang that car is out on my street again sticking that thing out his window lol
http://www.420magazine.com/forums/international-cannabis-news/139406-medical-marijuana-dispensaries-first-county-trial-ends-acquittal.html
I hope for the sake of the people in your State that the new changes of the administration do not alter things in a negative way.


Feds Threaten State Dispensaries Nationwide

Read the Department of Justice’s “Haag Memo” here: http://www.cannabistherapyinstitute.....haag.memo.pdf

In a little-publicized memo, the federal government has indicated that the gloves are off with regards to medical marijuana dispensaries, “regardless of state laws.” Previous memos had indicated a loosening of federal prosecutions of medical marijuana, however the new memo states very clearly that the feds consider all dispensaries illegal under federal law and that their prosecution is a “core priority” of the feds.

The “Haag Memo” was written on Feb. 1, 2011 from United States Attorney Melinda Haag (Northern District of California) to John A. Russo, Esq., Oakland City Attorney, in response to an Oakland City Council request for guidance regarding medical marijuana and federal law. The memo was written with consultation and approval from U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder.

The “Haag Memo” clarifies the “Ogden Memo”, which was written by former Deputy Attorney General David W. Ogden on Oct. 19, 2009 for the Department of Justice. The “Ogden Memo” seemed to indicate that the new Obama administration would restrict federal prosecution of medical marijuana providers in states that had medical marijuana laws. This was heralded by many as giving them the green light to pursue medical marijuana activities, as long as they were in compliance with state law.

The “Haag Memo” clears up that misconception with some very unambiguous statements. The memo says clearly that the feds will not look the other way on medical marijuana. The “Haag Memo” states very clearly that the feds will continue to investigate, arrest and prosecute medical marijuana dispensaries in every state “regardless of state laws.”

In addition, the memo calls prosecuting medical marijuana dispensaries a “core priority” for the feds.


According to the memo, medical marijuana commercial activity is still considered by the Department of Justice to be “a violation of federal law regardless of state laws permitting such activities.”

The memo may be the cause of the recent increase in federal raids at medical marijuana dispensaries. Only 4 days after the memo was issued, the DEA raided 4 dispensaries in California Just this week, the DEA raided more dispensaries in California and Montana. They arrested dozens of people, and seized the assets and bank accounts of several dispensaries.
Memo sheds light on federal action against medical marijuana


By Scot Kersgaard | 03.18.11 | 7:20 am | More from The Colorado Independent
As people in Montana and beyond struggle to come to grips with a massive federal raid of Montana medical marijuana businesses, the question that comes up is Were these businesses violating state law that allows medical marijuana, or were they raided because they are in violation of federal law, which prohibits the use and possession of marijuana.
This memo from a U.S. Attorney, shared with the Colorado Independent may shed some light on that question.
The memo was sent to the Independent by the Cannabis Therapy Institute, and can be seen here (pdf).
The “Haag Memo” was written on Feb. 1, 2011 by United States Attorney Melinda Haag (Northern District of California) to John A. Russo, Esq., Oakland City Attorney, in response to an Oakland City Council request for guidance regarding medical marijuana and federal law. Haag writes that the memo was written with consultation and approval from U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder.
Holder had previously said the feds would not interfere with states that legalized medical marijuana.
From the memo:
We will enforce the CSA (Controlled Substances Act) vigorously against individuals and organizations that participate in unlawful manufacturing and distribution activity involving marijuana, even if such activities are permitted under state law.
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Others who knowingly facilitate the actions of the licensees, including property owners, landlords, and financiers should also know that their conduct violates federal law.

U.S. Department of Justice
United States Attorney
Northern District of California
Melinda Haag 11th Floor. Federal Building (415) 436-7200
United States Attorney 4S0 Golden Gate Avenue. Box 36055
San Francisco. California 94102-3495 FAX:(4l5} 436-7234
February 1,2011
John A. Russo, Esq.
Oakland City Attorney
1 Frank Ogawa Plaza, 6th Floor
Oakland, California 94612
Dear Mr. Russo:
I write in response to your letter dated January 14,2011 seeking guidance from the
Attorney General regarding the City of Oakland Medical Cannabis Cultivation Ordinance. The
U.S. Department of Justice is familiar with the City's solicitation of applications for permits to
operate "industrial cannabis cultivation and manufacturing facilities" pursuant to Oakland
Ordinance No. 13033 (Oakland Ordinance). I have consulted with the Attorney General and the
Deputy Attorney General about the Oakland Ordinance. This letter is written to ensure there is
no confusion regarding the Department of Justice's view of such facilities.
As the Department has stated on many occasions, Congress has determined that
marijuana is a controlled substance. Congress placed marijuana in Schedule I of the Controlled
Substances Act (CSA) and, as such, growing, distributing, and possessing marijuana in any
capacity, other than as part of a federally authorized research program, is a violation of federal
law regardless of state laws permitting such activities.
The prosecution of individuals and organizations involved in the trade of any illegal drugs
and the disruption of drug trafficking organizations is a core priority of fhe Department. This
core priority includes prosecution of business enterprises that unlawfully market and sell
marijuana. Accordingly, while the Department does not focus its limited resources on seriously
ill individuals who use marijuana as part of a medically recommended treatment regimen in
compliance with state law as stated in the October 2009 Ogden Memorandum, we will enforce
the CSA vigorously against individuals and organizations that participate in unlawful
manufacturing and distribution activity involving marijuana, even if such activities are permitted
under state law. The Department's investigative and prosecutorial resources will continue to be
directed toward these objectives.
Consistent with federal law, the Department maintains the authority to pursue criminal or
civil actions for any CSA violations whenever the Department determines that such legal action
is warranted. This includes, but is not limited to, actions to enforce the criminal provisions of the
CSA such as Title 21 Section 841 making it illegal to manufacture, distribute, or possess with
intent to distribute any controlled substance including marijuana; Title 21 Section 856 making it
John A. Russo
February 1,2011
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unlawful to knowingly open, lease, rent, maintain, or use property for the manufacturing, storing,
or distribution of controlled substances; and Title 21 Section 846 making it illegal to conspire to
commit any of the crimes set forth in the CSA. Federal money laundering and related statutes
which prohibit a variety of different types of financial activity involving the movement of drug
proceeds may likewise be utilized. Hie government may also pursue civil injunctions, and the
forfeiture of drug proceeds, property traceable to such proceeds, and property used to facilitate
.drug violations.
The Department is concerned about the Oakland Ordinance's creation of a licensing
scheme that permits large-scale industrial marijuana cultivation and manufacturing as it
authorizes conduct contrary to federal law and threatens the federal government's efforts to
regulate the possession, manufacturing, and trafficking of controlled substances. Accordingly,
the Department is carefully considering civil and criminal legal remedies regarding those who
seek to set up industrial marijuana growing warehouses in Oakland pursuant to licenses issued by
the City of Oakland, individuals who elect to operate "industrial cannabis cultivation and
manufacturing facilities" will be doing so in violation of federal law. Others who knowingly
facilitate the actions of the licensees, including property owners, landlords, and financiers should
also know that their conduct violates federal law. Potential actions the Department is
considering include injunctive actions to prevent cultivation and distribution of marijuana and
other associated violations of the CSA; civil fines; criminal prosecution; and the forfeiture of any
property used to facilitate a violation of the CSA. As the Attorney General has repeatedly stated,
the Department of Justice remains firmly committed to enforcing the CSA in all states.
I hope this letter assists the City of Oakland and potential licensees in making informed
decisions regarding the cultivation, manufacture, and distribution of marijuana.
Very truly yours.
Melinda Haag
United States Attorney
Northern District of California
cc: Kamala D. Harris, Attorney General of the State of California
Nancy E. O'Malley, Alameda County District Attorney
 

ChronicObsession

Well-Known Member
Well as long as the Pot Police keep probing the air of the suburban night streets with their heat seaking dildos of mortal despair, then I say, tap into the sewer and pump your hot exhaust down into the poop zone. Risky, but to avoid further ultra-nazi action against the peaceful pot growers, anything goes.
 

Feelinit

Active Member
Lol, better turn off all fans. I have a lot and their not for my grow.

What BS

Oh I just dropped a deuce, can I exhaust out the pooey smell?

I better not may get rolled up.
 

Burger Boss

Well-Known Member
Well as long as the Pot Police keep probing the air of the suburban night streets with their heat seaking dildos of mortal despair, then I say, tap into the sewer and pump your hot exhaust down into the poop zone. Risky, but to avoid further ultra-nazi action against the peaceful pot growers, anything goes.
At the risk of seeming to be out of touch or some shit..........Just where the hell are these alleged "pot police" operating these days?
With the current economy causing LEO cut backs on all levels, the creeping acceptance of cannabis use, nationwide, your story is more like fodder for a sit com..........hmmm...Michael Richards and Paul Ruben would be great "narc's"......LOL..........BB
 

Burger Boss

Well-Known Member
This really seems to get to you 0011........I'm thinking you're out of smoke and REALLY pissed about it.....And, you don't live in CA...
Because if you did, you wouldn't feel the need to make that post. If the pot laws where you live make you unhappy, help get them changed.
You have internet access...........There are Cannabis legalization groups in all 50 states......I got involved back in '95, and look what WE got now! Good luck & good grow..........BB
 

PeacefulKid1992

Well-Known Member
If this device comes to the hands of the law enforcement, i am a scientist and will use another techonology to send the signal coming true my house
back at them,which means they will hear silence :) with no warrants on me i will be okay depending on my actions.
 

Balzac89

Undercover Mod
uhhhhhh every house I ever ever been n has multiple fans. Hvac units have multiple fans for moving air and some dry vents have fans.

Only a newb at life would believe this garbage.
 

shannonball

Well-Known Member
they need probable cause to get a search warrant and no judge is going to give them one because they picked up the sound of a fan. they need evidence beyond that. also they can't just drive around looking at houses with a machine and search them. its not anything to worry about unless you are already under their microscope for other activities.
 

Heisenberg

Well-Known Member
I believe anyone should think long and hard before giving the advice "be afraid, be very afraid". That statement alone suggests you are not a critical thinking person and probably impressed by gossip.

look pal i am only relaying information that my uncle told me he is a top politician, and he inadvertently told me cos i said i like a spliff at a wedding he was at, and HE WAS at the g8 summit.
So in addition to posting no sources or evidence for this information, you go on to admit it is nothing but hearsay. You then make a feeble attempt to defend your erroneous opinions for the rest of the thread, which further degrades any respect I may have had for you.
 

cannabisguru

Well-Known Member
Well in my state, if a cop were posted outside of my house, where I'm growing for medical purposes, I'd show him my "No Trespassing" sign, my medical papers and tell him to get the fuck off my property.....just my 2 cents.....spend all the money you want on technology Po Po, but the citizens have spoken!
Nicely put TwooDeff. Nicely put indeed!

I concur with you on this one.. I have to agree with ya.

Not only are you correct about what you said.. but I mean, what.. the popo going to bust up in my house because they detected multiple fans being used inside my house? I wish a mother fucker would bust up in my house.. I'd have them slapped with such a huge lawsuit they wouldn't know which way is up. I mean, the police can't bust up in your house just because they detected a bunch of fans being used inside a particular residence/house.. that's total bullshit.

I mean, they just can't do that man... you can't just bust up into someones house because they're using a bunch of fans.. or because they "detected" that the house is using a bunch of fans.. nope, not possible.. and its against our rights as citizens of this country IMO.

I mean, what.. they going to bust up in my house during this summer?? Because they detected that I'm using a bunch of fans?!? Its HOT here during the summer.. and if I want to use 50 fucking fans to cool down.. then guess what?!?! That's just what the fuck I'm gonna do!

I mean sure, I could see where if someone had like 20 or more electrical fans all going at once.. I could see where that would raise some suspicion.. however, they (the popo) should have to have more "suspicion" than just that.. in order to be able to bust up into someones house. JMO though. I mean, what if that person's air-conditioner unit quit working.. and the people are having to use a bunch of fans in order to stay cool.. what, the police going to bust them because they're using a bunch of fans?? Heh, now.. that WOULD be a lawsuit waiting to happen IMO.

Anyhow, that's my 2cents on this subject.. and once again, I wish a mother fucker would jump up into my house.. ;) Wouldn't make it past the front door.. I guarantee you that much. Hell, you wouldn't be able to make it past my security cameras and my invisible laser 'trip wires'.. but if you did happen to make it past all that.. they're a huge surprise waiting for any intruder.. waiting right past my front door. ;)

But yeah, anyways.. I think this is total bullshit.. jmo though.


peace.
 

tip top toker

Well-Known Member
Where i live it's not illegal to have a fan in your house. I'd love to meet the judge that signs off a warrant because they detected a fan :lol: Good god some people need to read up on their rights and their legal system.
 

Holy$mokes

Member
!wow i feel bad for all the peoples homes that are going to get raided for having their "fans" on in their "hot" houses! This is soo bs
 
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