The Pro Miracle Gro Group

Brettman

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The only reason i hate it is bc monsanto owns it.
It’s funny seeing that old comment now, a lot has changed and I would never recommend MG anything anymore. I still don’t like when people bash MG for no good reason but it definitely is no good for marijuana.
 

ShotoMain

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Bought a bag of in ground organic miracle grow from costco on sale for 5$ in March, and the organic miracle grow potting mix (also 5$) for germinating the seeds and keeping them in pots for their first month until weather permitted them to go in ground. Fed Fox farm trio nutes and cal mag. Strain Humboldt Dream Queen. Germinated April 1st, in ground first week of May, gets 2 hours shy of the entire days sun
 

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stnr420

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Monsanto doesn't own Miracle Gro. Now that you have been informed of that fact what's your reason for hating it now?
My bad,they have a marketing agreement between the two companies,and scott's distributes round up for monsanto....bad enough...they are in bed together......
 

Ryax

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this is the pro miracle grow thread though not the negative miracle grow thread

anyways
i had good success this last summer however
our weather had gotten so hot that i shouldn't have had them directly in the light on those especially hot, humid days
the inside of the buds get too moist

so just putting them in the shade on those days will be best.

but this is my first time in a long time growing again, so its a learning experience
 

xtsho

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Where are all the Pro's who use Miracle Grow?

I'm not going to call myself a pro but I can grow plants. I used Miracle Gro this summer for some outdoor plants and they did just fine. I wouldn't use their blue stuff or their soil with timed release fertilizer but their Performance Organics is a decent product. Both the fertilizer and soil. It's not any cheaper than anything else but it's available at big box stores for those that don't have any other options for purchasing products in their area.

The only problem with this is that I could never get it to dissolve completely. But that's not surprising considering it's a powder that has phosphate rock and bone meal.




 

PJ Diaz

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I'm not going to call myself a pro but I can grow plants. I used Miracle Gro this summer for some outdoor plants and they did just fine. I wouldn't use their blue stuff or their soil with timed release fertilizer but their Performance Organics is a decent product. Both the fertilizer and soil. It's not any cheaper than anything else but it's available at big box stores for those that don't have any other options for purchasing products in their area.

The only problem with this is that I could never get it to dissolve completely. But that's not surprising considering it's a powder that has phosphate rock and bone meal.




I've never questioned your ability to grow plants well, however my initial question persists.

I think it's a fair question too. If MG is on par with other nutes, and is cheaper than something like Jacks, why aren't the pros using it? By "pros", I mean people who are growing cannabis as a profession.
 
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hotrodharley

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I've never questioned your ability to grow plants well, however my initial question persists.

I think it's a fair question too. If MG is on par with other nutes, and is cheaper than something like Jacks, why aren't the pros using it? By "pros", I mean people who are growing cannabis as a profession.
Because most growing in volume use dry nutrients. Especially Jack’s. For $$$ reasons.
 

xtsho

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I've never questioned your ability to grow plants well, however my initial question persists.
I didn't think you did.


Because most growing in volume use dry nutrients. Especially Jack’s. For $$$ reasons.
And they're well aware of that. It's hard to compete with J.R. Peters.


“The difference has shifted more rapidly than I and my team expected toward these large-scale commercial cultivators and away from the smaller, midsize guys,” Chris Hagedorn told Marijuana Business Daily. “And those guys do have some different expectations. Maybe they’re buying from an ag distributor. They’re buying really cheap raw materials. They’re just buying bags of salt instead of premixed liquid nutrients. So, the market’s evolved. We’re responding with innovation, but it caught us a little off guard.”
 

hotrodharley

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Which product are you thinking the pros might want to use, if they knew better?
No idea. But I can hear the crowd if it got out “They use Miracle Gro!” I bought a huge bag of Miracle Gro Organic soil from Costco last Spring. Absolutely nothing wrong with it. While I was loading I see a professional guy loading an entire truckload of it. Jack’s is used a lot because JR Peters reps make rounds. Salesman. Never seen one for Miracle Gro.
 

xtsho

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If it helps, General Hydroponics is now owned by Hawthorne Gardening, which is also a subsidiary of Scotts...
They own a ton of companies through that subsidiary. They went on a buying spree of companies many focused on cannabis growing. But the market has changed and the large scale commercials might use GH but they're not going to be using bottled nutrients like Botanicare or CYCO which are also Hawthorn companies. It's just a matter of time before they have a bulk product like Jacks which is aimed towards the large scale grow operations. I doubt they'll use the name Miracle Gro but they'll have a product.
 

PJ Diaz

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No idea. But I can hear the crowd if it got out “They use Miracle Gro!” I bought a huge bag of Miracle Gro Organic soil from Costco last Spring. Absolutely nothing wrong with it. While I was loading I see a professional guy loading an entire truckload of it. Jack’s is used a lot because JR Peters reps make rounds. Salesman. Never seen one for Miracle Gro.
I just assumed that the general convo was supporting this, which is less expensive than Jacks. So if it's just about $$, I ask again, why aren't the pros using it?:

 

PJ Diaz

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They own a ton of companies through that subsidiary. They went on a buying spree of companies many focused on cannabis growing. But the market has changed and the large scale commercials might use GH but they're not going to be using bottled nutrients like Botanicare or CYCO which are also Hawthorn companies. It's just a matter of time before they have a bulk product like Jacks which is aimed towards the large scale grow operations. I doubt they'll use the name Miracle Gro but they'll have a product.
Maybe something like this..

 
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