The Problem With America

edub420

Active Member
OK i love this country but there's one thing that irks me and its this if weed is so bad and weed came from the earth i mean the definition for "weed"- is any plant that crowds out cultivated plants-does that not also mean that bananas
are also bad and therefore should be illegal and don't tell me its because its poisonous because that would mean if you took enough of it then you would die but that's not true either so here's what I'm getting at ibuprofen is perfectly legal but take 20 of them and see if you can move hopefully you all get my point.:peace:
 

Doctor Cannabis

Well-Known Member
Weed is illegal because it's a miracle plant that can destabilize the power of today's oil, fiber, food, and drug tycoons. Check out Jack Herer's book "The Emperor Wears No Clothes".

A study in 1874 at Virginia Collage proved that cannabis can inhibit cancer growth. A 2000 study in Madrid proved the exact same thing, healing incurable tumors in rats. A recent study conducted by Maryland Collage concluded that there are no differences beween heavy cannabis smokers and non-smokers.

Weed laws are f*cked up because rich industrialists, rehab clinic investors, pharmaceutical and tobacco companies still have something to gain from keeping the mass production of this plant illegal and keeping people stupid, sick and hooked on their products.
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
So what I do not understand is that all rights not stated by the federal government are thereby left to the state or the people... why is marijuana illegal then?
 

trichomemonger

Active Member
It is because this country is addicted to BULLSHIT and control. people here are obsessed with professionalism and pot is considered very unprofessional. the people that make laws are afraid of losing votes. professionalism is BULLSHIT. everybody is to worried about keeping with the pack, and anybody that strays away will get picked off by the wolves.they are afraid of change. also there are all of these busy-body types that think that its there job to help make everybody follow the rules.thanks Joe Citizen for your completely aimless duty to society you are making things so much better. and they are also the only people voting, making our voting system a gigantic display of public world-wide BULLSHIT. we look so stupid. they think automatically that as long as its against the law or rules that it is bad, wrong, or immoral. they dont understand or ask WHY its illegal or against the rules because they are programed not to ask, just follow commands and be a good worker drone. they cant see through the BULLSHIT enough to see the ill-intent and personal agenda of corporations or whoever. and of course there is racism. if this country wasn't obsessed with BULLSHIT , the government would prioritize there problems. that would put METH, HEROINE, and COCAINE at the TOP of there list. but they dont, they spend almost every bit of 12.5 BILLION fucking dollars of our tax money every year chasing pretty much all of us around like a bunch of chickens with there heads cut off, pointing guns and ruining the lives of perfectly able-bodied young people that should be out working and supporting our failing economy. they take their ability to drive and work, then MORE money is wasted supporting them on welfare, food stamps, health care ect. just like me, and i dont even have a record. i just LOOK like a "bad" person. i kinda look like a hippie. its hard to get a job. sounds like you used to use the word nigger and meant it. or most recently faggot. we are just the next group to come out of the closet. you are a fucking racist. i look like somebody and you are making judgment . you are not god. and dont get me started on the "gateway" drug. it was made into it. first its legal to drink, so alot of society thinks thats its ok to get plastered on occasion. so then people are comfortable with getting wasted. this is hard drug use. then pot is illegal even though everybody is gonna do it anyways. this gets people comfortable with breaking drug laws and they are experienced with hard drug use because of alcohol. this makes a much easier path to or "gateway" to hard drug use. if pot was legal then it wouldn't be a gateway anymore because it would separate society from hard drugs.hard drugs would be more easily controlled and isolated. how many people have known pot dealers that turn out to be coke dealers, then coke addicts? then every one of their friends become coke heads too.anybody know somebody that was shot in the head during a pot deal? yeah it was a dime. it probably didnt even weigh, and had pesticides sprayed on it. BULLSHIT! how out of control does it have to get before we realize that the punishment is worse than the crime?!?! WHEN ITS TOO LATE! just like everything else. we see it coming and dont believe it till it happens. we knew that the levies weren't gonna hold, but it took Katrina to open our eyes. then because of BULLSHIT we were too obsessed with the wars and forgot to help out our own. when will it all stop?
 
K

Keenly

Guest
the "its from the earth, its natural, therefore its ok", argument has been proved rather stupid already... lots of natural things kill you rather quickly
 

trichomemonger

Active Member
the "its from the earth, its natural, therefore its ok", argument has been proved rather stupid already... lots of natural things kill you rather quickly
i agree completely, there is a lot of really important reasons, and that is making us look bad. no offense bro, but educate yourself so you can be a solder for the movement and not a set back. remember this movement is about knowledge so get some. still no offense, i mean no hate.
 

trichomemonger

Active Member
anybody want to talk about pro-life BULLSHIT? lol anyways that is too. there stance is that they are equally protecting human life. i guess that we will all equally go down with the ship due to overpopulation because they were too politically correct to admit to overpopulation being a problem.
 

OregonMeds

Well-Known Member
Volcanic rock is from the earth, but that doesn't make it warm and fuzzy. If you see some coming at you, you best be getting out of the way.


I want everyone to stand up for legalization but those that are going to sound stupid should keep their mouths shut and just stand. (not saying you sound stupid, just make a mistake like using that argument and then nobody will hear a word past it and you'll get nowhere.)

Educate yourself on the history of it, watch the documentaries, etc... Then you'll know why it's illegal. While there were things like dupont etc conspiring the root cause of why it became illegal is first racism and second ignorance. Racism was the number one reason originally, to control those "dirty nasty mexicans" (their type of words not mine)

After we stole their land we had to get them off it and keep them under control somehow.
 

Doctor Cannabis

Well-Known Member
I do admire all the intentions for legalization, decriminalization, standing up to the government, "coming out of the closet" as the next big movement to catch america, but my opinion is that this has all been done before in the 50s all through the 70s. This was what hippies were all about.

If you want to change laws that are held in place not by reason, but by big fat corporate assholes, then you need to have at least 30% of the population ready, educated and willing to protest. And that is the actual problem we are facing, people are not even willing to stand up for this kind of thing, even if they knew the truth.

The parents of today's children are the 80s kids, that were first brainwashed by government. And today's children are the money spending, superficial Y generation.
 

NomadicSky

Well-Known Member
Education is the true key to legalization.

If stoners are thought of as thuggish and hippies then it will never be legal so long as it's associated with to society uneducated and underclass.
 

Tizzle312

Well-Known Member
OK i love this country but there's one thing that irks me and its this if weed is so bad and weed came from the earth i mean the definition for "weed"- is any plant that crowds out cultivated plants-does that not also mean that bananas
are also bad and therefore should be illegal and don't tell me its because its poisonous because that would mean if you took enough of it then you would die but that's not true either so here's what I'm getting at ibuprofen is perfectly legal but take 20 of them and see if you can move hopefully you all get my point.:peace:
i disagree
dont get me wrong i thing weed SHOULD be legal
but not because it grows in the ground. That is a stupid reason to say for legalization of weed simply because Cocaine and Heroin also grow in the ground

weed should be legal for the simple reasons that- IT IS NOT BAD FOR YOU
 

sighmon

Well-Known Member
watch the documentary "The American Drug War" it is EXCELLENT. It totally shows the ineptitude and incompetence of their "war". The major points include, tobacco and alcohol companies funding most of it. It also highlights how pharmaceutical companies are keeping weed illegal. It also shows how most prisoners in america today are NON-VIOLENT drug offenders and the privateley owned prisons recieve $50,000 for each inmate each year from the gov't. Another biggie is the HARD EVIDENCE of the CIA selling tons of cocaine to fund the iran-contra fiasco, while at the same time ruining life for black people by introducing crack, then making the punishment 10x harsher than cocaine trageting blacks. Interviews include, former DEA agent, CIA agent, a Cali judge and the Drug Czar himself. It's a must watch, i've seen it 4 times now.
 

1107861

Active Member
Intelligent!! I agree 100%!! WTF is freedom anyways if we can't smoke what we want! You know, so many people do it, just none of them discuss it unless they're with their stoner friends. There is so much more to life than materialistic shit. Just smoke a blunt and you'll find out on what you're missing.
 

Doctor Cannabis

Well-Known Member
I've seen American Drug War, it was a unique movie and definitely deserves to be watched by all that call themselves growers.

I've also seen The Union: The business behind getting high. This is by far my favorite documentary. As marijuana growers and users you should all watch it. Here's the link:

http://blip.tv/file/1356143
 
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