The real deal about LED's

Kaptain Kron said:

and when you call the owner and ask him what chips are in the 240 whats he going to tell u, they use 3w chips, its an old add from AGES ago, like 2009

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My intent isn't to prove you wrong, just want to prevent any mis-information. Lighthouse Hydro, which seems to be the parent company to Blackstar, lists the light as containing 2w LEDs and 3w(http://www.lighthousehydro.com/led-grow-lights/blackstar-240w-led-grow-light-3w-cree.html). I think I remember reading only a few of them are 2w, , (like just the white ones) but I'm having a hard time finding the source on that part. I will edit this and add the source if I can find it again. Cheers!

virulient said:

My intent isn't to prove you wrong, just want to prevent any mis-information. Lighthouse Hydro, which seems to be the parent company to Blackstar, lists the light as containing 2w LEDs and 3w(http://www.lighthousehydro.com/led-grow-lights/blackstar-240w-led-grow-light-3w-cree.html). I think I remember reading only a few of them are 2w, , (like just the white ones) but I'm having a hard time finding the source on that part. I will edit this and add the source if I can find it again. Cheers!

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*can someone figure out which is which, it seems like it there can be 2 models of the same thing? one w/ 2w & another w/ 3w??

--tootles

Is anyone doing a grow with these ? http://grownorthern.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage-ask.tpl&product_id=17&category_id=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=12&vmcchk=1&Itemid=12

Would be interested in anyone's advise

if anyone wants to give me an early xmas present id love one of these for my veg room


http://www.lighthousehydro.com/led-grow-lights/90w-ultra-violet-led-grow-light-cree-1-watt-led-s-51.html

if there are any 2 watt led's it would be an insanely small amount all the red leds and blue ones i can gaurantee are 3w the 2011 models are all supposed to be 3w, owner said on the phone to me they are 3 watt so unless he played me.... I know your just trying to clear things up no worrys

cannawizard said:

*can someone figure out which is which, it seems like it there can be 2 models of the same thing? one w/ 2w & another w/ 3w??

--tootles

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Ok there have been questions asked about what led's better in this thread lets stop that please not what this thread is for i will not be discussing panels in here in that aspect, discuss what you use already and if you dont already have an led and are growin with one your welcome to follow along like myles but lets not ask questions like this because this is the opening shot in a huge argument even though i know thats not what you meant it to be. I know your just after info, That kind of info can be had in the other LED threads this thread is in AMC for a reason.

maxpesh said:

Is anyone doing a grow with these ? http://grownorthern.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage-ask.tpl&product_id=17&category_id=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=12&vmcchk=1&Itemid=12

Would be interested in anyone's advise

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Question. If LED's make use of UV light so much, why isn't that the same as throwing a black lite in the grow room?

ah now theres a good question, who said that it wasnt the same? hehe led's do provide boosted uv over hps setups, however they also provide other spectrums that HPS can't hit with an hps you can only use 20% of the light put out by the light with an led its 90% plus usable light put out by the light making it more efficient. Uv is just part of that spectrum

XxM1k3YxX said:

Question. If LED's make use of UV light so much, why isn't that the same as throwing a black litled;e in the grow room?

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Hey, glad I found a new LED thread! I've been using LEDs for about a year now and I love this new way of growing. The quality of my bud has never been so high with such minimal effort, it's been truly amazing. The lights I'm using come from AdvancedLED. I have one 3w extreme flower model and one of their new Diamond series models. Both are excellent, quality lights. My setup consists of the 3w 180w, the 200w Diamond, and 2 15w far red spotlights. The new diamond series panel has three different modes that you can switch between for different spectrums: one veg (blue heavy), one bloom (red heavy) and one full spectrum. I've been running in full spectrum while I allow myself to do more research on the different modes. Here's two idea's I'm thinking about testing and haven't found much research on:

1. In flowering -- Run full spectrum for 10 hours and bloom mode for last 2 hours of each day. My thoughts on this is that the red heavy lights might simulate the red and pink skies of dusk better.
OR
2. In flowering -- Run full spectrum for all 12 hours, but during the final 2 weeks or so, switch to the bloom heavy mode. My thoughts on this are that the red heavy is "most" important for flower development so hit them hard with what they need the most at the time they put on the most weight.

I also wanted to talk about the use of far red spotlights. Far red spectrum (~720nm) is supposed to promote flowering and increase flower density. I've done a few tests and it appears that it does have some effect; however, too much exposure will cause the leaves to feel more paper-like, but that's the only downside I've noticed. I've also read research that far red light exposure will change the chemical reaction that occurs when the plants transition from daylight to darkness -- without too much science explanation, it keeps the same daylight chemicals active for about two more hours while the lights are off effectively allowing the plants to think they are still under light...something like that.

I realize I didn't pose any questions, and some of you may ask for my sources which I will not go back and look up for you. Please feel free to take this into consideration and respond with any questions or input that you may have on any of the things I've mentioned.

Should be a good thread here! Keep everyone in line Kapn Kron haha

good job puff yea were strugglin to keep it clean in here we dont want the drama from the other threads spilling over into here we dont care if your using a chinese pos panel or a 1500$ beast of a panel. Its all about learning the growiing characteristics of the lights in here and how to maximize our yeild and quality with this new tech we are playing with.

Kaptain Kron said:

ah now theres a good question, who said that it wasnt the same? hehe led's do provide boosted uv over hps setups, however they also provide other spectrums that HPS can't hit with an hps you can only use 20% of the light put out by the light with an led its 90% plus usable light put out by the light making it more efficient. Uv is just part of that spectrum

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So In theory I could throw the black lite in with my hps and it'd be adding a new light spectrum, thats similar to LED's?

not similar per say, you could run a mh bulb to supplement UV spectrum to your HPS setup if you wanted, or run uv bulbs, i suppose its somewhat similar but its only a very SMALL part of LED's

SO what about those LED panel you see on ebay that are like 35 bucks and say 225 with red blue white and orange are those any good?

ok again your asking questions this thread isn't for thats a question for the regular LED thread. This thread is for people who are growing with led's and want help maximizing yield and quality. Not getting into panel discussions but since your asking about an ebay panel ill save you the time, its crap dont buy it if its only 35 bucks. Stick to topic please

Kaptain Kron said:

ok again your asking questions this thread isn't for thats a question for the regular LED thread. This thread is for people who are growing with led's and want help maximizing yield and quality. Not getting into panel discussions but since your asking about an ebay panel ill save you the time, its crap dont buy it if its only 35 bucks. Stick to topic please

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Sorry :3 Nd thanks!

no problem

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