The real deal about LED's

puffenuff

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Fair enough, you guys like his journals and I don't. I guess it sounded harsh because I feel like however helpful they may be to some, they really dont "prove" anything; it's all him fumbling around trying to figure stuff out. Just remember that what works for irish isn't necessarily the led grower's law.
 

Kaptain Kron

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totally concur on that they PROVE nothing. But thats ok man for some people its enough te get an idea what its like to get started. Course its not LED growers law thats what this thread is for remember ;) figuring out the best way to grow with led's period, whatever led u may be using.

Fair enough, you guys like his journals and I don't. I guess it sounded harsh because I feel like however helpful they may be to some, they really dont "prove" anything; it's all him fumbling around trying to figure stuff out. Just remember that what works for irish isn't necessarily the led grower's law.
 

FootClan

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no its your asanine and ignorant behavior that does, if you wanna tag along and actually not just run your mouth just to hear yourself talk please feel free. But if your here to troll this thread like you have single LED thread on this forum that pops up then i would appreciate it if you would take it elswhere.
lets see you called me Asanine and ignorant then you refered to me as Troll..... LOL like hello ??????? thats not names?? like i said i let it die and you still had to jump in and be a f*cking dick.....I made a funny comment that was true you cant stand me and the sight of my avator pissess you off i didnt dig in and start more shit i ended it with a funny line and you had to bring it back so im back now.....
 

Kaptain Kron

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sorry for stating facts, you trolled other threads, asanine and ignorant comments there, so sorry that i assumed you were going do the same things here. Its all i've seen you do in any LED thread, so sorry for assuming what has been known to be fact up until now. Your comment was not funny sorry you thought it was it was just a comment it didnt make me laugh as much as your last comment. I cant help the fact that you acted asanine and ignorant in those other threads. Its too late for that, if you want to change the publics opinion of you then maybe you should act a little differently is all i can say. I dont see how me quoting a fact is being a "fucking dick" also your first post in this thread was already trolling it so how could i not assume that?
led usering dont like it when you say stuff like that ....lol dont you guys already have a 900 page thread on this very subject?? not enough ego boosting for one thread need another one too? here comes the hammer down....yikes
thats all i have to say man it put everyone off of anything you may have had to add that could have been helpful to the thread, i honestly have nothing against you personally i have a problem with the attitude you take in every LED thread i've seen you in. Its rude, onoxious and inflamitory and when i say those things lets be straight so you dont get offended again i speak only on the times when you come at people with things like the above quoted with that kind of attitude. Its not helpful and of course its going to turn people off to what you have to say man.

Im sorry that these facts have upset your day enough that you feel you need to come in here and talk trash to me to make yourself feel better. If you have any questions regarding LED's that are not shots to try to gain a reaction please feel free to post away and wiz me or s1 else will try to answer them to the best of our abilities. But if you keep comn in here the way you did with that first post its not going to help keep this thread clean and informative. If you want to have a shit talking contest with me we can make a thread if you would like called footclan v kaptain where you can bash me all day if it helps you out. I wont be participating in it though, this thread was made for informative thought on LED growing not arguments.

lets see you called me Asanine and ignorant then you refered to me as Troll..... LOL like hello ??????? thats not names?? like i said i let it die and you still had to jump in and be a f*cking dick.....I made a funny comment that was true you cant stand me and the sight of my avator pissess you off i didnt dig in and start more shit i ended it with a funny line and you had to bring it back so im back now.....
 

Green Dave

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Its easy guys
If you dont like the thread then leave
The guy started a thread let him be
Its all info some good some not so much deside for your self there are no Laws in growing trial and error
So lets all play nice
 

dannyboy602

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Didn't read whole thread. Tomorrow def.
Here's a pic of my LED grow. Threw in some T5's for support of lower canopy. Those bitches stretched man.
Running 3 Blackstar 600's
Growing mostly Midnight Kush.
it's all in my journal.
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Kaptain Kron

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your image didnt come through great, but it looks good from how small of an image it is. Ill go check out the journal, lookin around right now for somthing interesting LED related to post. Been too much BS going on in here and not enough carrying on of the thread.
 

Myles117

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danny your grow looks great! only suggestion id have is to flip t5s 90 degrees so they run their long way down the row of plants. might get better coverage that way. can't wait to see how big the buds will get with all that LED and then the t5s in addition :D
 

Kaptain Kron

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Ok heres some good general info i found to follow that some of you may or may not know already about LED's. Remember they can produce UP TO 90% less heat than a typical HID setup, so there are a few good things to know about how to take measure against mold mildew and otherwise way too long in between feedings. This is copy pasted from a website, its all good pertinant information excluding something i will highlight as unconfirmed KEEP ENVIRONMENTAL TEMPERATURES IN THE RANGE OF 70°-80°F (lower temperatures = slower plant
growth) you should also monitor the root zone temperature. When switching from a traditional plant lamp to LED
growing light it may be necessary to add room heat or even a heat mat under your plants. Plants grow slower with
less blooming when their environment temperature falls below 70° F. If gardening without any sunlight- hybrid
systems are recommended for maximum growth rates.


LOOK OUT FOR OVERWATERING! (less heat from the light source = less water loss to evaporation) over watering
will slow root development, which will slow and stunt growth. Over watering will also cause nutrient uptake issues (you
are feeding your plant right?). Aeroponic and hydroponic systems will reduce your chances of over watering. Water
plants once, then let them run low on water. This will establish the water usage for your plants when using LED plant
lights versus natural sunlight or traditional grow lights. Maintain this new watering schedule. Keeping the root
medium water saturated, equals no need for plant to develop a larger root system, which equals stomata closure,
slow and stunted growth, and symptoms of over watering. (For indoor growing- using a small amount of high heat
traditional lighting such as metal halide bulbs will help water to evaporate.)


Use a more porous medium, which will provide more oxygen to roots, giving a higher plant metabolism.

In commercial growing, monitor your CO2 levels. LED lights emit a large amount of absorbed light energy, which may
require slight augmentation of CO2 levels (typically 300-500 PPM). Remember that although the LED grow lights
may not appear bright to you- the wavelengths provide an intense light source for your plants.

Start with a lower amount of nutrient (400-600 PPM) or 1/2 the recommended amount. On fruiting plants: reduced
photoperiod, equals plant stress, which equals more flowering.

If your plants are grown indoors, without supplemental light, some plants such as tomatoes may benefit from the
addition of a single GE 60 watt soft-white light placed anywhere in the room with the plants. This provides a boost in
some wavelengths of light which will encourage fruiting. If there is no natural lighting available, LED/HPS (or metal
halide bulbs) in hybrid systems are recommended for some applications.

this bolded section is unconfirmed by me so you may or may not want to disregard this part about a soft white bulb.

Too close will stunt growth, too far will cause stretching. When raising or lowering the LEDs, move them a few
inches at a time and allow time to transition before moving again.

If you’re using the “professional” type LED grow light product, you may have noticed that one or more of the LEDs in
each light cluster appears to not be lit. This is perfectly normal for this advanced product. Light comes in many
wavelengths. Humans can only see a very limited range of light wavelengths. Over 60% of the
light emitted for LEDs in gardening is not visible to the human eye. Plants have a preference for light wavelengths
humans can’t see. Why do most plants look green to us? It’s because the plant is reflecting the wavelengths of white
light (mostly yellow and green light), and absorbing the rest of the light wavelengths.
 

cannawizard

Well-Known Member
Ok heres some good general info i found to follow that some of you may or may not know already about LED's. Remember they can produce UP TO 90% less heat than a typical HID setup, so there are a few good things to know about how to take measure against mold mildew and otherwise way too long in between feedings. This is copy pasted from a website, its all good pertinant information excluding something i will highlight as unconfirmed KEEP ENVIRONMENTAL TEMPERATURES IN THE RANGE OF 70°-80°F (lower temperatures = slower plant
growth) you should also monitor the root zone temperature. When switching from a traditional plant lamp to LED
growing light it may be necessary to add room heat or even a heat mat under your plants. Plants grow slower with
less blooming when their environment temperature falls below 70° F. If gardening without any sunlight- hybrid
systems are recommended for maximum growth rates.http://www.led-grow-master.com/LEDGardener.html


http://www.led-grow-master.com/LEDGardener.html

LOOK OUT FOR OVERWATERING! (less heat from the light source = less water loss to evaporation) over watering
will slow root development, which will slow and stunt growth. Over watering will also cause nutrient uptake issues (you
are feeding your plant right?). Aeroponic and hydroponic systems will reduce your chances of over watering. Water
plants once, then let them run low on water. This will establish the water usage for your plants when using LED plant
lights versus natural sunlight or traditional grow lights. Maintain this new watering schedule. Keeping the root
medium water saturated, equals no need for plant to develop a larger root system, which equals stomata closure,
slow and stunted growth, and symptoms of over watering. (For indoor growing- using a small amount of high heat
traditional lighting such as metal halide bulbs will help water to evaporate.)http://www.led-grow-master.com/LEDGardenerFeb3.html



Use a more porous medium, which will provide more oxygen to roots, giving a higher plant metabolism.

In commercial growing, monitor your CO2 levels. LED lights emit a large amount of absorbed light energy, which may
require slight augmentation of CO2 levels (typically 300-500 PPM). Remember that although the LED grow lights
may not appear bright to you- the wavelengths provide an intense light source for your plants.

Start with a lower amount of nutrient (400-600 PPM) or 1/2 the recommended amount. On fruiting plants: reduced
photoperiod, equals plant stress, which equals more flowering.

If your plants are grown indoors, without supplemental light, some plants such as tomatoes may benefit from the
addition of a single GE 60 watt soft-white light placed anywhere in the room with the plants. This provides a boost in
some wavelengths of light which will encourage fruiting. If there is no natural lighting available, LED/HPS (or metal
halide bulbs) in hybrid systems are recommended for some applications.

this bolded section is unconfirmed by me so you may or may not want to disregard this part about a soft white bulb.

Too close will stunt growth, too far will cause stretching. When raising or lowering the LEDs, move them a few
inches at a time and allow time to transition before moving again.

If you’re using the “professional” type LED grow light product, you may have noticed that one or more of the LEDs in
each light cluster appears to not be lit. This is perfectly normal for this advanced product. Light comes in many
wavelengths. Humans can only see a very limited range of light wavelengths. Over 60% of the
light emitted for LEDs in gardening is not visible to the human eye. Plants have a preference for light wavelengths
humans can’t see. Why do most plants look green to us? It’s because the plant is reflecting the wavelengths of white
light (mostly yellow and green light), and absorbing the rest of the light wavelengths.
*unless your running rDWC systems w/ organic compost teas, w/ fungi/bac/aro/etcetc.. mother natures back ;) .. then all you would really need to monitor is water temp :)
 

Kaptain Kron

Well-Known Member
rofl lol i dont overwater even without an organic dwc system i run a waterfarm 24hrs a day plugged in on a big ass industrial air pump flora nova going through it 24 7 now with full organic yea no ppm foo, which is why im tellin you i need poopy recipe, lol i need my rez to want some more heat its hot and i cant run a chiller on a single waterfarm lol

i guess i kinda understand now you musta been super faded to associate that with what i said cause now it makes sense but it was WAAAAY random rofl but made sense
 

cannawizard

Well-Known Member
rofl lol i dont overwater even without an organic dwc system i run a waterfarm 24hrs a day plugged in on a big ass industrial air pump flora nova going through it 24 7 now with full organic yea no ppm foo, which is why im tellin you i need poopy recipe, lol i need my rez to want some more heat its hot and i cant run a chiller on a single waterfarm lol

i guess i kinda understand now you musta been super faded to associate that with what i said cause now it makes sense but it was WAAAAY random rofl but made sense
*ninja moves baby... ;)
 

FootClan

Well-Known Member
sorry for stating facts, you trolled other threads, asanine and ignorant comments there, so sorry that i assumed you were going do the same things here. Its all i've seen you do in any LED thread, so sorry for assuming what has been known to be fact up until now. Your comment was not funny sorry you thought it was it was just a comment it didnt make me laugh as much as your last comment. I cant help the fact that you acted asanine and ignorant in those other threads. Its too late for that, if you want to change the publics opinion of you then maybe you should act a little differently is all i can say. I dont see how me quoting a fact is being a "fucking dick" also your first post in this thread was already trolling it so how could i not assume that?


thats all i have to say man it put everyone off of anything you may have had to add that could have been helpful to the thread, i honestly have nothing against you personally i have a problem with the attitude you take in every LED thread i've seen you in. Its rude, onoxious and inflamitory and when i say those things lets be straight so you dont get offended again i speak only on the times when you come at people with things like the above quoted with that kind of attitude. Its not helpful and of course its going to turn people off to what you have to say man.

Im sorry that these facts have upset your day enough that you feel you need to come in here and talk trash to me to make yourself feel better. If you have any questions regarding LED's that are not shots to try to gain a reaction please feel free to post away and wiz me or s1 else will try to answer them to the best of our abilities. But if you keep comn in here the way you did with that first post its not going to help keep this thread clean and informative. If you want to have a shit talking contest with me we can make a thread if you would like called footclan v kaptain where you can bash me all day if it helps you out. I wont be participating in it though, this thread was made for informative thought on LED growing not arguments.
only read the first sentence but im sure everything you said sounded dickish no doubt......... "no one thought it was funny"?? Why did i get a LIKE for that post that you say wasnt funny?? once again prove you wrong..... oh your dick head for sure
 
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