The real FDR, patriot and humanitarian!

medicineman

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FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT

Excerpted from an essay by Doris Kearns Goodwin:


"I'll tell you," Franklin Roosevelt once told a friend during the toughest years of his presidency, "at night when I lay my head on my pillow, and it is often pretty late, and I think of the things
that have come before me during the day and the decisions that I have made, I say to myself -- well, I have done the best I could and turn over and go to sleep." With this simple story, Roosevelt provides the key to understanding the essence of his presidency, for no factor was more important to his leadership than his absolute confidence in himself and in the American people.

"There's something that he's got," White House aide Harry Hopkins once told Labor Secretary Frances Perkins. "It seems unreasonable at times, but he falls back on something that gives him complete assurance that everything is going to be all right.".....

"I think," Eleanor (Roosevelt) observed, "probably the thing that took most courage in his life was his mastery and his meeting of polio.
I never heard him complain." And though anyone remembering how athletic and strong he had been as a young man could not fail to realize what a terrific battle must have gone on within him, "he just accepted it as one of those things that was given you as discipline in life." After his struggle with polio, he seemed less arrogant, less smug, less superficial, more focused, more complex, more interesting. "There had been a plowing up of his nature," Frances Perkins commented. "The man emerged completely warm-hearted, with new humility of spirit and a firmer understanding of philosophical concepts." He had always taken great pleasure in people, but now they become what one historian has called "his vital links to life." Far more intensely than before, he reached out to know them, to understand them, to pick up their emotions, to put himself into their shoes. No longer belonging to his old world in the same way, he came to empathize with the poor and the underprivileged, with people to whom fate had dealt a difficult hand.

What is more, Roosevelt had a remarkable capacity to transmit his internal strength to others, to allow, as White House counsel Sam Rosenman observed, the men and women who came to Washington during the New Deal "to begin to feel it and take part in it, to rejoice in it-- and to return it tenfold by their own confidence." Frances Perkins claimed that "his capacity to inspire and encourage those around him to do tough, confused and practically impossible jobs was without dispute." Like everyone else, she said, she "came away from an interview with the president feeling better not because he had solved any problems," but because he had somehow made her feel more cheerful, more determined, stronger than she had felt when she went into the room. "I have never known a man who gave one a greater sense of security," Eleanor said. "I never heard him say there was a problem that he thought it was impossible for human beings to solve."

So it was in 1933, when in the midst of the worst days of the
Depression, that the new President was able to communicate his own strength and assurance to a badly frightened people. In his first inaugural, Collier's magazine reported, the new President did not delude himself as to the difficulties that lay before him, and yet he was serenely confident of the outcome.... Within days of the inauguration, historian William Leuchtenburg noted, "the spirit of the country seemed markedly changed, a feeling of hope had been reborn."......

Closely linked to Roosevelt's confidence was his willingness to try everything. He never seemed to lose his faith that the right solution to a vexing problem would eventually turn up. When he made up his mind to do something, Eleanor said, he did it to the best of his ability, but if it went sour, he simply started in
all over again and did something else. He ever spent time repining. "He recognized the difficulties and often said that, while he did not know the answer, he was completely confident that there was an answer and that one had to try until one either found it for himself or got it from someone else."

"I have no expectation of making a hit every time I come to bat," Roosevelt liked to say. "What I seek is the highest possible batting average." His mind was almost always flexible and hospitable to new ideas, the writer John Gunther once observed. "He was one of those persons with the good luck to grow up slowly." Until the end of his days, he was always fresh, youthful in mind and receptive to experiment. "Remember," Eleanor once told a friend, "the nicest men in the world are those who always keep something of the little boy in them." That, she emphasized, was Franklin's strength.

During the Depression Roosevelt tried one economic cure after
another--heavy spending, public works, direct relief, the
NRA Codes, the Blue Eagle campaigns, regulation of industry, restrictions on spending. "He understood," Garry Wills noted, "the importance of psychology--the people have to have the courage to keep seeking a cure, no matter what the cure is. Those who wanted ideological consistency or even policy coherence, were rightly exasperated with Roosevelt. He switched economic plans as often as he changed treatments for polio." And while the New Deal did not overcome the Depression--it took [World War II] to fully mobilized the economy--the multiplicity of government programs kept the people going, and in the process preserved the system of democracy at a time when so many other countries in similar despair were turning to fascism or communism.
 

ViRedd

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From the article:


"THE NEW DEAL": A package of programs introduced by President Roosevelt aimed at ending the Depression by stimulating the economy and putting people back to work. The "New Deal" programs were enacted during the first hundred days of the Roosevelt Adminstration.
  • March 9: Emergency Banking Act
  • March 20: Economy Act
  • March 31: Civilian Conservation Corps established
  • April 19: End of the gold standard
  • May 12: Emergency Farm Mortgage Act
  • May 18: Tennessee Valley Authority established
  • May 27: Truth in Securities Act
  • June 13: Home Owners' Loan Act
  • June 16: National Industrial Recovery Act and Farm Credit Act
<A name=nra>NRA: The National Recovery Administration was set up under the
National Industrial Recovery Act. Its aim was to stabilize production and prices through government regulation of wages and working conditions. The symbol of the NRA campaign was a Blue Eagle thunderbird. Employers who signed NRA agreements were allowed to display the Blue Eagle at their businesses. Many business people opposed the effort as representing excessive government regulation.


"THE NEW DEAL": A package of programs introduced by President Roosevelt aimed at ending the Depression by stimulating the economy and putting people back to work. The "New Deal" programs were enacted during the first hundred days of the Roosevelt Adminstration.
  • March 9: Emergency Banking Act
  • March 20: Economy Act
  • March 31: Civilian Conservation Corps established
  • April 19: End of the gold standard
  • May 12: Emergency Farm Mortgage Act
  • May 18: Tennessee Valley Authority established
  • May 27: Truth in Securities Act
  • June 13: Home Owners' Loan Act
  • June 16: National Industrial Recovery Act and Farm Credit Act
<A name=nra>NRA: The National Recovery Administration was set up under the
National Industrial Recovery Act. Its aim was to stabilize production and prices through government regulation of wages and working conditions. The symbol of the NRA campaign was a Blue Eagle thunderbird. Employers who signed NRA agreements were allowed to display the Blue Eagle at their businesses. Many business people opposed the effort as representing excessive government regulation.


Quick, someone tell me that that isn't text book fascism.

Vi


 

ViRedd

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"THE NEW DEAL": A package of programs introduced by President Roosevelt aimed at ending the Depression by stimulating the economy and putting people back to work.

And, the New Deal programs did neither. Again, there were more unemployed at the start of FDR's third term than at the beginning of his first term.

As of this writing, no one on this forum has proven this to be false. What's up with you slackers anyway ... can't use a simple Google search to disprove my point?

Vi
 

ViRedd

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"the multiplicity of government programs kept the people going, and in the process preserved the system of democracy at a time when so many other countries in similar despair were turning to fascism or communism."

This is a joke! FDRs programs did NOTHING to end the depression OR perserve democracy. Other countries turned to fascism or communism because they didn't have a representative government in the first place.

Vi
 

medicineman

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This is a joke! FDRs programs did NOTHING to end the depression OR perserve democracy. Other countries turned to fascism or communism because they didn't have a representative government in the first place.

You are dillusional. Have you been off your meds again. Take a couple of ziprexa, a few xanaxs, some millaril, 2 hits of window payne, 6 buttons of peyote, and post me in the morning!
 

ViRedd

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This is a joke! FDRs programs did NOTHING to end the depression OR perserve democracy. Other countries turned to fascism or communism because they didn't have a representative government in the first place.

You are dillusional. Have you been off your meds again. Take a couple of ziprexa, a few xanaxs, some millaril, 2 hits of window payne, 6 buttons of peyote, and post me in the morning!



Typical leftist rebuttal. You've done nothing here but deliver another personal attack. Where's the facts to prove me wrong, Med?

Vi
 

medicineman

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Typical leftist rebuttal. You've done nothing here but deliver another personal attack. Where's the facts to prove me wrong, Med?

Vi
Who the fuck cares what You think of FDR? I believe he was the best president since I've been alive and really don't care what you think, so post your anti-FDR bullshit to your hearts content!
 

Wavels

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lol
med you are sputtering like a sparkler.......
classic........ no discernable facts in sight.....hahahhh

I've eaten two full canna cookies, I chose this dose for medicinal purposes!!!!1
it's startin' to kick in........wow
 

ViRedd

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Who the fuck cares what You think of FDR? I believe he was the best president since I've been alive and really don't care what you think, so post your anti-FDR bullshit to your hearts content!
And, here we have it again, folks! Another communist who has been given the opportunity to retort with provable facts ... and cannot produce anything other than personal attacks. Soooo typical of the breed.

Vi
 

medicineman

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lol
med you are sputtering like a sparkler.......
classic........ no discernable facts in sight.....hahahhh

I've eaten two full canna cookies, I chose this dose for medicinal purposes!!!!1
it's startin' to kick in........wow
I should have known better than to argue with stoned out right wing zealots. How you guys can get stoned and not feel humanity is beyond my understanding. Robotic right wing philosophys have no place in my conscienceness. You are talking to the Hand! Reveal your true selves to be what you really are, rich robotic libertarian zealots with not one ounce of feelings for anything but Money! As Vi says Bah Humbug, a pox upon you both. Tell me something I won't believe, like how you work to better someone elses life. Otherwise I'm not listening
 

ViRedd

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I should have known better than to argue with stoned out right wing zealots. How you guys can get stoned and not feel humanity is beyond my understanding. Robotic right wing philosophys have no place in my conscienceness. You are talking to the Hand! Reveal your true selves to be what you really are, rich robotic libertarian zealots with not one ounce of feelings for anything but Money! As Vi says Bah Humbug, a pox upon you both. Tell me something I won't believe, like how you work to better someone elses life. Otherwise I'm not listening
1. Through my work, I council people in how to make a financial future for themselves.

2. Through positive motivation, I have four grandkids who will graduate from college ... one will be a medical doctor.

3. I have cofounded a chronic pain support group in my area and have built it to over 50 members. We now have local neurosurgeons referring their pain people to our group.

4. I treat everyone I come in contact with, with respect.

5. I am proud to be a professional salesman ... someone who, in a small way, keeps America's economy strong. Nothing moves in this country without a salesman being on the starting end.

6. Through example, my children and their children are all in great physical condition and follow great nutrituion habits. There are NO fatties who just sit around sucking up High Fructose Corn Syrup in my family, Med ... how about your's?

7. I'm on several cannabis web sites teaching fellow chronic pain sufferors how to grow great medicine.

Your turn, Med ... what do you do to make your community better besides post on the Internet and breathe oxygen?

Vi
 

medicineman

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1. Through my work, I council people in how to make a financial future for themselves.

2. Through positive motivation, I have four grandkids who will graduate from college ... one will be a medical doctor.

3. I have cofounded a chronic pain support group in my area and have built it to over 50 members. We now have local neurosurgeons referring their pain people to our group.

4. I treat everyone I come in contact with, with respect.

5. I am proud to be a professional salesman ... someone who, in a small way, keeps America's economy strong. Nothing moves in this country without a salesman being on the starting end.

6. Through example, my children and their children are all in great physical condition and follow great nutrituion habits. There are NO fatties who just sit around sucking up High Fructose Corn Syrup in my family, Med ... how about your's?

7. I'm on several cannabis web sites teaching fellow chronic pain sufferors how to grow great medicine.

Your turn, Med ... what do you do to make your community better besides post on the Internet and breathe oxygen?

Vi
I'm impressed, I think you've got me beat, so what now, do I have to start bowing before every confrontation. I think you revel at my posts. they keep you sharp and guessing, what is the crazy fucker going to come up with next. At least I'm entertaining. I am not a huge social creature, never have been. I support a few charities with what I can afford and make a point of not bragging about it. I am not a huge interactive guy, in fact outside of work (which is no more) and a few friends, I probably ramble on ,more on this site than I have in years. I'm basically the father figure to my 2 granddaughters and have pretty much full time care of them, that occupies some of my time, and the rest I devote to arguing with rich guys on different sites! I will admit I hold a certain disdain for the rich, and make no excuses for it. So where do we go from here oh great one? (Bowing in subservience) BTW maybe I am using too much oxygen, the cure isn't very palitable! Oh and I don't litter, I vote, and I pay my taxes. If you insist, I'll have to do research and make a list. I did like your list, I wonder how you find time to berate me! And Btw, My smoke is gonna be fantastic, so quit knockin what you don't know! I might drive by the texas and look for your car, what kind is it and the lic #, and I might leave you a surprise, leave the pass window down about an inch and I'll drop in a pinch, disguised of course! I'm not the asshole you think! actually if you wouldn't see my liscence, I might even meet with you. I'm just trying to be cool!
 

ViRedd

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"I might drive by the texas and look for your car, what kind is it and the lic #, and I might leave you a surprise, leave the pass window down about an inch and I'll drop in a pinch, disguised of course! I'm not the asshole you think! actually if you wouldn't see my liscence, I might even meet with you. I'm just trying to be cool."

Yeah, I'll leave my window down for ya, Med. And that "pinch" you leave will probably be a big old turd on my car seat.

"I'm not the asshole you think!"

Preception is reality. I take people at their word until they prove differently.

"actually if you wouldn't see my liscence, I might even meet with you."

Like I said, Med ... you need to flush that bunk weed you've grown. Its making you paranoid.

Vi
 

ViRedd

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Bumped up for Med's response.

"If you insist, I'll have to do research and make a list. I did like your list..."

And, of course ... you've never offered "the list."

Vi
 

medicineman

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Bumped up for Med's response.

"If you insist, I'll have to do research and make a list. I did like your list..."

And, of course ... you've never offered "the list."

Vi
God bless you Mr. Vi. I'm turning a new leaf. I'll try and refrain from the personal attacks, It will be a real test of my patience. I don't think it's the weed, it's just me. I'm sure someone could enjoy the hell out of the widow, it's just a little too strong for me at this point, and I'm not sure I want to become a stoner at this late stage! Maybe if I try the subtle approach with you instead of the adversarial, you'll come around to the sharing principle, who knows!
 

ViRedd

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"Maybe if I try the subtle approach with you instead of the adversarial, you'll come around to the sharing principle, who knows!"

What does that have to do with the fact that you haven't posted your list yet? At YOUR REQUEST, I've posted what I do to better society ... and nothing but silence from you. What's up with that?

Vi
 

medicineman

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"Maybe if I try the subtle approach with you instead of the adversarial, you'll come around to the sharing principle, who knows!"

What does that have to do with the fact that you haven't posted your list yet? At YOUR REQUEST, I've posted what I do to better society ... and nothing but silence from you. What's up with that?

Vi
Not taking the bait. I don't do lists of my achievements, take that as you may, but you'll not get a response! I owe you no accounting!
 

ViRedd

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Yep, just like your stand on charity. Nothing from you for the homeless ... but you'll feel good about yourself if you can rig the system to FORCE others to give, right? I mean, you ask for others to post what THEY do to better society, then when asked for the same in return, you flake. Bah!

Vi
 
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