dnkfrmthasoilz7
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpMri_zmh90&feature=sub i couldn't have said it better myself
The REALITY OF ORGANICS
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stonedmetalhead1
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First I'll list what's flawed about this douche bag's thinking.
1. Human beings are part of nature and it is not unnatural if we assist in combing genetics or controlling the climate for better quality grows yet chemical fertilizers are not natural and have devastating effects on the environment.
2. He talks about the scientific method yet he doesn't seem to have any background in science or at least it didn't come through in his arguments.
3. He stated that is was a proven fact that hydro was more potent which is just blatant misinformation and then goes on to say the best weed he had ever smoked was organic.
4. He talks about pushing the limits through science but doesn't understand the repercussions from not using our knowledge responsibly.
5. He said that science is all fact when what we know changes everyday especially in the scientific world.
6. He try's to reinforce his arguments with facts that have nothing to do with the subject at hand.
I could go on but this guy is the perfect example of what's wrong with people today. He has limited experience and has apparently picked and chosen what scientific data he wanted to believe. He doesn't understand even if science does expand what we know we can always learn more and discover new things. Most of the time it is discovering that what we do can have severe repercussions if we don't use what we've learned responsibly. People only want to think about what benefits them personally and they could care less about the future. It's a sad day when people believe uneducated people like this guy because he made a retarded youtube video. Yes hydro grows faster and yields better but if the same plant was grown by someone with skill in an organic soil the quality of the smoke would be incomparable.
1. Human beings are part of nature and it is not unnatural if we assist in combing genetics or controlling the climate for better quality grows yet chemical fertilizers are not natural and have devastating effects on the environment.
2. He talks about the scientific method yet he doesn't seem to have any background in science or at least it didn't come through in his arguments.
3. He stated that is was a proven fact that hydro was more potent which is just blatant misinformation and then goes on to say the best weed he had ever smoked was organic.
4. He talks about pushing the limits through science but doesn't understand the repercussions from not using our knowledge responsibly.
5. He said that science is all fact when what we know changes everyday especially in the scientific world.
6. He try's to reinforce his arguments with facts that have nothing to do with the subject at hand.
I could go on but this guy is the perfect example of what's wrong with people today. He has limited experience and has apparently picked and chosen what scientific data he wanted to believe. He doesn't understand even if science does expand what we know we can always learn more and discover new things. Most of the time it is discovering that what we do can have severe repercussions if we don't use what we've learned responsibly. People only want to think about what benefits them personally and they could care less about the future. It's a sad day when people believe uneducated people like this guy because he made a retarded youtube video. Yes hydro grows faster and yields better but if the same plant was grown by someone with skill in an organic soil the quality of the smoke would be incomparable.
dnkfrmthasoilz7
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there has been recorded data stating that hydro has higher levels of thc. also he know's 100x more about growing than you. Also he didn't say that he was some sort of a scientist he said that through the scientific method ( humans consciously created and laid out guide lines ) you can beat out mother natures systems. Don't be an organic zealot all of your 6 points are so closely related that you should have used 3 tops. lolz
stonedmetalhead1
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Scientific method my ass. I can't even begin to tell you how much data you would need to come to the conclusions that he did and from the look of his video he doesn't have nearly enough resources. You can think what you want but this guy doesn't have a clue. As far as hydro being more potent, it's completely subjective and circumstantial. Also, only points 1 and 4 are somewhat related and are talking about two completely different things. Point 1 was referring directly to growing and point 4 was referring to technology and science as a whole from when he was talking about cars and computers and how you either had to believe all science or none of it. I think his exact words were"you can't pick and choose" but thats what science is. Science is people disagreeing with what other people say and proving them wrong. Science constantly evolves and we're supposed to question it, that's how we progress. I'd like to see these thousands of studies he talks about because they simply don't exist. Marijuana being illegal makes it hard to do studies on the scale thy need to be done to get accurate and conclusive results.
quietguy420
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LOL this guy was full of shit, I was waiting to see the comparison plants with dates and nute cycles, nothing, just " i grow with synthetics, and its the best because man is the fucking shit and nature cant touch us, etc, i had to fastforward through the 5 minute rant where he got stoned and kept repeating " were at the pinnacle of achievement, this is because of man etc over and over" Not actual facts with supporting evidence presented, just a bunch of opinions stated as facts. What was the point of even having the plants in the video if he wasnt going to do a side by side grow.
Im not pro or anti organic or synthetic, just thought I would learn something from the video..
Sounded like a very colloquial stoner who like the sound of his own voice.
Im not pro or anti organic or synthetic, just thought I would learn something from the video..
Sounded like a very colloquial stoner who like the sound of his own voice.
dnkfrmthasoilz7
Active Member
sublbc has grown more pot than you have or ever will he has grown organics so don't say things you aren't sure about. . . .
stonedmetalhead1
Well-Known Member
Keep being small minded and thinking other people aren't experienced and just because he grew organic doesn't mean he did it right.
The whole "better than mother nature" aspect is whack. Increased yield, sure. Faster growth, yup. There is a great deal of opinion in this video, not science.
I understand what chemical ferts can do for cannabis, and have used them, but I CHOOSE to grow organic. If yield and speed is your main goal, you have different
priorities. Plus, I guarantee my organics smoke smoother than any chemical grown herb. You may flush, but bottom line the cellular makeup of that plant
was directly influenced by chemicals. You can't tell me that these cells do not retain any of these additives.
I am an advocate for cannabis. You CHOOSE to grow how you will.
And by the way, does anybody else think the guy in the video sounds like he's been up for a few days on a coke bender?
The bouncy camera and all.
My $.02
I understand what chemical ferts can do for cannabis, and have used them, but I CHOOSE to grow organic. If yield and speed is your main goal, you have different
priorities. Plus, I guarantee my organics smoke smoother than any chemical grown herb. You may flush, but bottom line the cellular makeup of that plant
was directly influenced by chemicals. You can't tell me that these cells do not retain any of these additives.
I am an advocate for cannabis. You CHOOSE to grow how you will.
And by the way, does anybody else think the guy in the video sounds like he's been up for a few days on a coke bender?
The bouncy camera and all.
My $.02
quietguy420
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LOL what the fuck are you talking about? Say things i aren't sure about? I stated that this guy talks allot and doesn't support any of his "facts". I know that. LOL way to douche up the thread.
We get it, your a fanboy maybe he will give you some of his nugs if you give him a BJ.
Matt Rize
Hashmaster
Thank you.
This debate is long dead. Better is simply a matter of priorities.
Spanishfly
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dnkfrm is so far the only troll on my ignore list.